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I understand logically "why" Kamala chose Walz, but it's still hardly believable
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Date: November 14th, 2024 1:12 AM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::, that they willingly, consciously trotted out a pair of uncharismatic puppets incapable of projecting any knowledge or intellect in even the most friendly of settings
i know they didn't want shapiro to "overshadow" kamala but jfc, what shitty human capital they offered the country |
Date: November 14th, 2024 1:52 AM Author: jafar I actually thought Walz was a decent pick. They should've coached him way more for the debates but his speech and campaign performance was pretty strong and he was affable in a friendly relative sort of fashion. The issue is just Kamala, who was not and likely will not be ready for an office that high in her lifetime. Shrill, smarmy DA known for being harsh (we love our renegades and mavericks, don't we folks?) from a state generally found to be "too lib" for this cycle. Scummy rise to power. No real primary. It wasn't going to happen. Shapiro was too Israeli-coded and Dem voters were up in arms about Israel (and rightfully so, speaking if I was a Dem) and apparently also had some skeletons of note in his closet that may have been an issue on the campaign trail. Walz in comparison was squeaky clean and had charisma that Kamala lacked under the forcememes |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:43 AM Author: ataraxic walz has no charisma and zero persuasive effectiveness. his midwestern affability is part and parcel of his self-described "knuckleheadedness" which also implies foolishness and impotence. this, plus an ability to recite talking points with reasonable fluency, was still apparently sufficient to win him the governor's race in a left-leaning midwestern state with fewer people than nyc. but national politics are a different animal.
shapiro may have been a problem but he has precisely the fake charaisma of hollow obamaesque oratory that makes dems cream their pants. instead they presented the electorate with two ciphers. |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:49 AM Author: jafar His actual speeches and stumping were pretty good and they played well with the base according to polls. Favorability from some Trump and swing voters was "decent" until 1. Vance debates and 2. his shrill shrew wife got out behind a podium Agree re hollow Obama charisma (pure haute bourgeois educational polish) but also don't think it would've played as well at that time as you might think. He definitely would've done much better in the debates with Vance, and those were crucial to candidate perception this go around. People were looking for some aggressiveness and fire after the Biden years and even Obama being trudged out for his typical shuck and jive didn't do much for the polls. Libs have been overplaying their hand re preaching to an increasingly weary swing voter base w/r/t their bizarre secular Messianic code of Progressive morality, and that sort of polish may have ended up being a sort of malus |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 3:11 AM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::, what made obama effective was his ability dress up "progressive" sludge in a smooth oratory of saccharine platitude, which is the most establishment libs can realistically hope for, but which can nonetheless be extremely effective among lower middle-class depressives thirsty for any reasonably plausible message of optimism. shapiro could have offered at least this (for what it's worth from a vp candidate), and he would've made it harder for white collar ninnies of the ackman class to jump ship (recall that ackman was hawking an alternative dem for most of this race before switching sides out of desperation, though he ended up a full-fledged trump acolyte).
this kind of message was much more plug-and-play in the wake of w. bush and is harder to pass off after four years of democratic failure, but i doubt any perceived "preaching" from shaprio would have turned away voters any more than kamala's own did, and he would have given the shim-jumpers an mirage of competence to latch onto. |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 3:44 AM Author: jafar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335442) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 3:04 AM Author: Lizard Fuckboi After Biden sabotaged them , they basically conceded this election. They weren’t gonna risk putting a stain on a promising politician by running him on the ticket.
Word is Shapiro rejected the VP opportunity because he knew she had little chance and he wanted to run for prez in 2028 |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:11 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, this makes sense to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335753) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:02 AM Author: Institute for JDVanced Study Walz seems appealing upon first contact but the creepy vibes follow. He's also a compulsive liar with a questionable history of travel and work.
Shapiro is smarter, I guess, but his charisma seems to be off the fleeting type. He presents like a nerdier DeSantis |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:05 AM Author: spaceporn brutally rapes his underaged adopted son (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335742) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:11 AM Author: Bill DaWall he did not seem appealing upon first contact (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335754) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337606) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:03 AM Author: lsd ? political experts such as Allan Lichtman told us Kamala is much more charismatic than Trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335735) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:06 AM Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335744) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:06 AM Author: spaceporn brutally rapes his underaged adopted son (gunneratttt) short + long term economy better than ever!
no scandals! |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:06 AM Author: Bill DaWall tim walz was a horrible pick. the shapiro guy wouldve been a horrible pick too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335743) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:18 AM Author: .,.,.,....., walz fired the only live ammunition in the entire 108 days of kamala: "weird".
it didnt withstand the veep debate and vance on rogan, of course, bc vance is actually extremely likeable and normal midwestern dude.
but brat, joy, and the entire reboot of "trump is hitler" were all complete duds
Dems actually had something going with "weird" and that all came from walz. that he even had kamala close, much less winning for several weeks, is to his credit |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:59 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat I don't think this "landed" outside anyone without a chapo trap house subscription (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337648) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 3:59 PM Author: .,.,.,....., election results support you.
but it did capture the zeitgeist: trying to animate single shrews to socially stigmatize guys and weird/creepy/incel is the best weapon theyve got. might not be enough to win, but it was their high water mark.
lol that gay tim walz discovered it |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:26 AM Author: snoot Here's 2 unlikable people to represent us in a popularity contest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335781) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:35 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., Anyone discussing this guy at length is falling into the lib media trap. The top of the ticket is what matters, and it’s lib propaganda to shift away from that and get normies discussing tampon Tim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335796) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:33 PM Author: Institute for JDVanced Study Picking Walz reflected very poorly on the judgment of the top of the ticket, and people took note (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337549) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 8:45 AM Author: tight butthold he's a white boomer male and the figured they'd appeal to white boomer males by picking a white boomer male. these are the same people who thought this ad was a good way to appeal to blue collar men:
https://x.com/JoshWalkos/status/1844560311358992580 |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 9:14 AM Author: there's a wocket in my pocket That can’t be real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48335898) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:36 PM Author: butt cheeks (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) it's completely real, there was a long thread about it at the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337570) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 2:58 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat cr their thinking didn't go any further than that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337646) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: Based Archbishop Vigano TP (SSPX Masterman) He just ages poorly. Looks 80 but is 59 or 60 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337957) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 4:04 PM Author: Based Archbishop Vigano TP (SSPX Masterman) I always figured they knew they were going to lose and didn’t want to “blow” any political capital on people who have a future.
It doesn’t seem they did a lot of vetting and this was a rookie mistake. Walz has a lot of skeletons that Minnesotans knew about but these never got national attention. On the bright side maybe Minnesota will get rid of this asshat in the next election. |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 4:10 PM Author: So we looked at the data 1) stolen valor 2) china stuff 3) weird overtures to gay kids as a teacher
What were his other skeletons |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 4:15 PM Author: Based Archbishop Vigano TP (SSPX Masterman) Tampon Tim and food scams. This was all pretty public in Minnesota but they underestimated how much it pissed some people off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337983) |
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Date: November 14th, 2024 4:16 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- He is pretty much a Tim Kaine clone. What do you remember about Tim Kaine as a running mate? Nothing other than he's a plain vanilla white guy. This is exactly what the Dems were going for (of course you can debate the losing strategy but their execution was as they say flawless). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5633916&forum_id=2#48337994) |