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Minimum IQ to conceptually grasp the fundamental theorem of calculus

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but ...
Fragrant set
  04/09/25
you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people fi...
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole di...
heady aquamarine box office stain
  04/09/25
Answer the question in the OP
Fragrant set
  04/09/25
maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any...
Jet marketing idea
  04/09/25
i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things,...
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
physics without calc
Jet marketing idea
  04/09/25
that is unfathomably homosexual
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof
vigorous messiness
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem
Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm
  04/09/25
sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as havin...
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the th...
Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm
  04/09/25
Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theore...
Spruce Histrionic Juggernaut Ticket Booth
  04/09/25
Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “t...
violet therapy coffee pot
  04/09/25
arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by v...
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
What's your liberal art
violet therapy coffee pot
  04/09/25
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_D...
disturbing heaven
  04/09/25
...
french bawdyhouse hominid
  04/10/25
100
curious useless brakes step-uncle's house
  04/09/25
flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a f...
Fragrant set
  04/09/25
Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.
appetizing hairy legs
  04/09/25
no
Fragrant set
  04/09/25
*the calculus
hairraiser theater dysfunction
  04/09/25
...
Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm
  04/09/25
Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with ...
Aggressive skinny woman
  04/09/25
Ok
Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm
  04/09/25
idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?
Low-t Home
  04/09/25
I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive ...
Fragrant set
  04/09/25
same, I could just never get it
bearded casino
  04/09/25
isn't that just another name for communism
Jet marketing idea
  04/09/25
It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who...
Crystalline School Patrolman
  04/09/25
What?
Slippery contagious degenerate faggotry
  04/09/25
P69, what don't you understand
Fragrant set
  04/10/25
Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects...
Brass coiffed native ratface
  04/10/25
thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me but what did you ...
Fragrant set
  04/10/25
"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a...
slate pit
  04/10/25
"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. ...
Brass coiffed native ratface
  04/10/25
...
slate pit
  04/10/25
upvoted
Fragrant set
  04/10/25
Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery
Bistre swollen preventive strike
  04/10/25
Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s
Brass coiffed native ratface
  04/10/25


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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:03 PM
Author: Fragrant set

Lots of kids "learn" calculus in high school, but what is the cutoff for actually understanding it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832973)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

you can't teach real proofs until the pre-med etc. people finish their math reqs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832982)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: heady aquamarine box office stain

I use calculus in my grad program, but proofs are a whole different level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832987)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: Fragrant set

Answer the question in the OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48832997)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: Jet marketing idea

maybe you mean engineers. most med schools don't require any calc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833128)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

i mean indirectly. pre-meds take physics among other things, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833138)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: Jet marketing idea

physics without calc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833235)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:44 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

that is unfathomably homosexual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833275)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: vigorous messiness

rectangles get smaller to infinity is a total proof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833130)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm

you don't need to know the proof to understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833151)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

sure, but i'm taking "conceptually grasp" as having a high level of understanding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833166)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm

you don't need to know the proof to highly understand the theorem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833454)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: Spruce Histrionic Juggernaut Ticket Booth

Well OP, enlighten us. What is the “fundamental theorem” of calculus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833083)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: violet therapy coffee pot

Isn’t this in Calc I? Calculus alone has more “things” in it than like 3 out of the 7 Liberal Arts combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833092)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

arithmetic and geometry (one of the highest of all arts by virtue of its proofs) are two of the canonical liberal arts, friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833110)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: violet therapy coffee pot

What's your liberal art

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833193)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: disturbing heaven

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Hortus_Deliciarum%2C_Die_Philosophie_mit_den_sieben_freien_Künsten.JPG

the ladies in the upper right quadrant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833205)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: french bawdyhouse hominid



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: curious useless brakes step-uncle's house

100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833146)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Fragrant set

flame. someone with an IQ of 100 struggles to grasp what a function is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833157)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: appetizing hairy legs

Like 95? Seems pretty simple tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833152)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Fragrant set

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833158)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: hairraiser theater dysfunction

*the calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833174)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833462)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Aggressive skinny woman

Every time I try to use it to solve a problem I end up with a bunch of christoffel symbols left over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833192)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: Ruddy razzmatazz mad-dog skullcap business firm

Ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833467)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: Low-t Home

idk, how many math nerds even read liebniz and newton?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833201)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: Fragrant set

I know for a fact it's impossible to teach the distributive property to people under 90 IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833331)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: bearded casino

same, I could just never get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833472)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: Jet marketing idea

isn't that just another name for communism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833485)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Crystalline School Patrolman

It's nothing to do with IQ. Teach matrix algebra to kids who flunk calculus and 25% will get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833335)



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Date: April 9th, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: Slippery contagious degenerate faggotry

What?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48833475)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Fragrant set

P69, what don't you understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48834143)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Brass coiffed native ratface

Actually, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTC) connects differentiation and integration, showing that they are essentially inverse operations. It has two main parts:

1. FTC Part 1: If \( F(x) = \int_{a}^{x} f(t) \, dt \), then \( F'(x) = f(x) \) (under appropriate conditions).

2. FTC Part 2: If \( f \) is continuous on \([a, b]\) and \( F \) is an antiderivative of \( f \), then \( \int_{a}^{b} f(x) \, dx = F(b) - F(a) \).

IQ is not a perfect measure of mathematical ability, but research suggests:

- Average IQ (100) can grasp basic arithmetic and algebra.

- Above Average (~115+) can handle precalculus and introductory calculus concepts.

- High IQ (~125+) is typically associated with comfortably understanding rigorous calculus, including FTC.

However, understanding FTC depends more on mathematical training, persistence, and teaching quality than raw IQ. A person with an IQ of 110 who studies calculus thoroughly may grasp it better than someone with a higher IQ who hasn't practiced.

Key Factors for Understanding FTC:

1. Conceptual Foundation – Understanding limits, derivatives, and integrals.

2. Logical Reasoning – Following the proof (if attempted) or at least the intuition behind FTC.

3. Visualization – Recognizing that integration accumulates change, while differentiation gives an instantaneous rate.

While a minimum IQ of ~115-120 may correlate with the ability to grasp FTC, dedicated study matters more. Many people with average IQs can understand it with proper instruction and effort. Conversely, someone with a high IQ but no calculus background may struggle.

Let me know if you have any other question you would like me to answer OP while I'm not practicing family law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835160)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: Fragrant set

thanks Chilmata, that answers it for me

but what did you ask it before this prompt that made it say "Actually,"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835165)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: slate pit

"You are a megapoasting Jewish Indian Transvestite on a forum for balding middle aged lawyers who phrases responses annoyingly as possible..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835173)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: Brass coiffed native ratface

"Actually" was the one word that AI didn't write. I was trying to fool you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835178)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: slate pit



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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Fragrant set

upvoted

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Date: April 10th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Bistre swollen preventive strike

Thread stinks of tryhard midwit gookery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835168)



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Date: April 10th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: Brass coiffed native ratface

Now give us your opinion, and not ChatGPT’s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5708367&forum_id=2#48835301)