Any Republicans who actually support the BBB?
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:58 PM Author: sealclubber
brussels sprout. your reply seems very thin.
very thin.
how can you 'shift' costs to the states that were supposed to be the states' costs in the first place?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49064634)
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv
I'm Republican, so I detest taxes-- but the BBB shifts the cost of doing the people's business for health, education, welfare, transportation, and disaster relief to the states.
The proposed cuts come from forcing families and individuals to bear higher costs and more red tape, and by imposing new costs on our state budgets. This is particularly risky as we face many economic headwinds and an increased risk of recession. Ultimately, forcing states to shoulder new costs without support from the federal government will negatively impact workers and families, veterans, seniors, and people with disabilities across every community in every state.
The cuts to Medicaid would be particularly damaging. The increased red-tape requirements misleadingly labeled “work requirements”–proposed even though almost all Medicaid recipients already work, are in school, are disabled or otherwise cannot work–would have the effect of ending the federal Medicaid eligibility of up to five million people next year alone. That reduced enrollment would lead to some half a trillion dollars in reduced federal funding over 10 years, funding that states who wanted to keep their residents insured would have to make up through higher taxes or cuts to other important public services. Those state budget cuts could include reducing money-saving Medicaid administrative functions like improved automation and fraud detection. Moreover, the ripple effects of these huge federal Medicaid cuts next year alone would include up to $60 billion in lost economic activity nationwide, which in turn could lead to 450,000 lost jobs and a $4.4 billion in lost state and local tax revenue.
The reconciliation bill’s restrictions on state medical-provider taxes would similarly strain state budgets. To prevent an estimated 400,000 recipients nationwide from losing Medicaid coverage because of the curbs imposed on provider taxes, states would again need to either raise other taxes or cut other vital public services–again including cuts to Medicaid-administration initiatives that actually save money.
Another example of the state-level harms caused by the bill is the slashing of SNAP benefits and shifting more administrative and — for the first time in history — benefit costs onto state budgets. It would also raise the work-requirement age to 64, narrow caregiver exemptions to only parents with children under 9, defund SNAP-Ed, restrict USDA’s ability to issue local waivers, and cap future benefit increases under the Thrifty Food Plan. These cuts punish vulnerable people rather than help them work, forcing grandparents into extra jobs, making parents choose between caring for their children and losing food assistance, and straining states and local retailers. Taken together, these changes would worsen food insecurity, hurt local economies, all to pay for massive tax giveaways to the ultra-rich.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49065806) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 12:23 PM Author: Heil Hitler (TT6)
its retarded as fuck.
Hopefully Elon does launch his own party. It would be nice to have a party that isnt a slave to Israel, wants to take care of its own people, kick out illegals and limit legal immigration, and have balanced budgets over a period of time.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063290)
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063836) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 8:27 AM Author: faggotmaster (🧐)
there will be no tangible demographic change as a result of the deportation showmanship. it's DOGE for immigrants
the only real difference trump has made so far is border enforcement, but that would've likely changed under pretty much any republican, even one who gave a shit about the budget. it's too popular of a policy for someone not to act on
you keep making excuses because you think he's funny and Owns the Libs. he could do literally nothing beneficial and you would still love him. just say that instead of whatabouting every retarded decision he makes
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49065669) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
"that would've likely changed under pretty much any republican"
This is delusional. Republicans have been a major cause of illegal immigrants coming in the numbers that they have. Reagan did the first huge amnesty. This was/is about killing the labor market.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49065975) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 12:31 PM Author: Gloostick
Yeah it’s pretty good
Who cares about spending? So what, we raise taxes on white people now so gay race communists can hand it to niggers in ten years? Deficit is a fake issue
Fund deportations
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063323) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 12:43 PM Author: massive ordnance penetrator (gunneratttt)
obviously they do, since this is the best that could get the votes.
the rate of deficit spending slows under the bill over the next four years. of course of you just read headlines or had some naive hope we'd operating at a budget surplus, then you're going to be disappointed. but only because of ignorance.
of course a lot is based on rosy omb estimates too. we'll see. but if you expected deficit spending to stop in 2026 than lol just fucking lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063374) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 1:17 PM Author: massive ordnance penetrator (gunneratttt)
under the house bill it did. senate looks to increase. well see what happens when all the horse trading stops.
no, higher interest rates affects the people with the highest borrowing power, i.e. the wealthy. its a wsj neocon lie that it hurts the middle class the most.
think of it this way: interest rates are as close to a flat tax as we have, except its on something the wealthy pay the most on. when the fed raised rates, its literally raising the rates at which THE BANKS pay to borrow money. of course this causes interest rates to rise across the board. but thats not hitting proles as hard as corporations and the wealthy.
and anyway the deficit does not set rates. the market does. if people stop buying american debt then the deficit will matter, but thats not the case.
oh but also trump is ultra pro-fed rate cuts. so basically if you want low rates you'd love trump. but you've been tricked into wanting low rates. but now you're maf at the gop, even though they're the ones pushing for low rates.
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063522) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 12:59 PM Author: All American protestor waving Mexican flag tp
I support cutting taxes for the productive members of society who carry 99% of the tax burden (the middle class). Raising taxes on private university endowments is a plus.
Not crazy about raising the SALT cap for the coastal libs who choose to live in ultra high tax states, but it was necessary to get the votes I guess.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063453) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
“I support cutting taxes for the productive members of society who carry 99% of the tax burden (the middle class)“
I’ve got bad news for you friend
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49064584) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
It’s great. If Elon gets a big tax break then he’ll be able to sell cybertrucks at a much lower price and I’ll finally be able to afford one.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063464) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
ok Chang
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49063842) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 6:57 PM Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
Hola there. How's the clandestine Parliaments in the South Carolina humidity?
I am told by serious people that meaningful entitlement cuts + substantial new taxes are politically impossible for both parties and all the talk about doing either one or the other is just a charade. The way out of the impending financial doom is to get the economy to grow faster than the rate of government spending. As long as the economy outgrows the deficit, then the deficit becomes less of a problem. And that is what the bill is designed to do. And it's also why Trump is coming down so hard on Powell over the interest rates. He wants to unleash a massive boom.
We'll see if it works.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49064429) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 7:33 PM Author: Voodoo Child
I learned a lot ITT about just how dumb TT6 is. Sad to see.
No wonder why this guy had to self-deport. Many such cases!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49064562) |
Date: July 1st, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
Billionaires stay in that air thanks to bootlicking millionaires. And MAGA welfare queens cheer the whole thing on.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49064590) |
Date: July 2nd, 2025 4:45 AM
Author: ..,,.,.,,,.,,,,.,.,.,,,..,,.,,..,,
Seems like a good deal
This is not “increasing” deficit, if they increased taxes the market would tank and tax base would shrink, increasing deficit further
Do you guys even know economics?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49065407) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: ..,,.,.,,,.,,,,.,.,.,,,..,,.,,..,,
CEOs don’t pay taxes retard
Taxes are borne mostly by the lawyers and doctors on this board along with other Americans making 250-600k. Also same demographic that drives our economy purchasing.
If taxes increase those people will stop buying dumb shit and economy will tank. This will cause said doctors and lawyers to lose enough jobs to offset the tax increase
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49066226) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..,
I've been informed by many board libs that tax cuts are the exact same thing as revenue cuts and therefore are a form of government spending and also that increasing taxes increases revenue on a 1:1 basis. they also like to point out that republicans don't understand math, economics or have a fundamental grasp on human behavior.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49066213) |
Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
itt MAF brownoids
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744949&forum_id=2#49066218) |
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