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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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odious legal warrant
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
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odious legal warrant
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
odious legal warrant
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
sapphire french chef
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/17/25
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odious legal warrant
  12/17/25
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sapphire french chef
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Citrine party of the first part
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
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Citrine party of the first part
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Soul-stirring cruise ship
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Jet-lagged cerise nowag
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
sapphire french chef
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Buff Mad-dog Skullcap Mediation
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sapphire french chef
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odious legal warrant
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
arousing chest-beating indirect expression business firm
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Federal Brethren Ticket Booth
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sapphire french chef
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arousing chest-beating indirect expression business firm
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odious legal warrant
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odious legal warrant
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
iridescent motley locale wrinkle
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: odious legal warrant



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: odious legal warrant

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: odious legal warrant

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: sapphire french chef

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: odious legal warrant



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: sapphire french chef



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Citrine party of the first part

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Citrine party of the first part



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Soul-stirring cruise ship

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Jet-lagged cerise nowag

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: sapphire french chef

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Buff Mad-dog Skullcap Mediation

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: sapphire french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: odious legal warrant



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: arousing chest-beating indirect expression business firm

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Federal Brethren Ticket Booth

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: sapphire french chef



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: arousing chest-beating indirect expression business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: odious legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: odious legal warrant



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Bossy Kitchen Roast Beef

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: iridescent motley locale wrinkle

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)