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Date: March 18th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: final reason Let me ask again: why should investors have confidence in a company that primarily sells to western liberals that is headed by a man who goes out of his way to antagonize western liberals? Where is the future for that company? https://bsky.app/profile/whstancil.bsky.social/post/3lko47kt47s2r |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: Unakite Thirteen Hotel 69 (Lolhaha) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759459) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:16 PM Author: yeah, talk to the hand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48760132) |
Date: March 18th, 2025 4:00 PM Author: final reason Yikes, not a great day for Tesla owners: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5696027&mc=13&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759179) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:02 PM Author: """'"'"""'' OP is pretty simple to understand and 100% accurate.
The retarded autistic, illegal immigrant oligarch destroyed the brand. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:07 PM Author: The Last Starfighter how low does the share price have to get before he's forced to sell to cover the twitter loan he secured with tesla stock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759208) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:19 PM Author: """'"'"""'' threads on this... $150 or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759247) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: ChadGPT-5 let's ask GPT-4o:
what is Tesla's fair market value under the dividend discount model? The current price is 225.18 ChatGPT said: The Dividend Discount Model (DDM) is based on the assumption that a stock's fair market value is the present value of its future dividends. The formula for the Gordon Growth Model (constant growth DDM) is:
π 0 = π· 1 π − π P 0 β = r−g D 1 β
β
Where:
π 0 P 0 β = Fair value of the stock π· 1 D 1 β = Expected dividend next year π r = Required rate of return (cost of equity) π g = Expected dividend growth rate Does Tesla Pay Dividends? Tesla does not currently pay dividends. The DDM is not applicable to Tesla because the model assumes future dividends, and Tesla reinvests its earnings instead of distributing them.
Alternative Valuation Methods Since Tesla is a growth stock that does not pay dividends, other models like the Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) model, Price-to-Earnings (P/E) multiples, or Comparable Company Analysis are more suitable for valuation.
Would you like a different valuation approach, such as DCF based on Tesla’s free cash flow?
You said: Sure, let's try the DCF model. ChatGPT said: βTo estimate Tesla's fair market value using the Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) model, we need to calculate the present value of its projected future free cash flows (FCF). Here's a concise breakdown of the process:β
1. Free Cash Flow Projections: Tesla's historical FCF has fluctuated, with $8.502 billion in 2022, $4.358 billion in 2023, and $3.584 billion in 2024. For future projections, analysts estimate FCFs of $5.261 billion in 2025, $8.675 billion in 2026, and $12.081 billion in 2027. β Macrotrends +1 MarketScreener +1 MarketScreener
2. Discount Rate (WACC): Estimates for Tesla's Weighted Average Cost of Capital (WACC) vary:β GuruFocus +2 www.alphaspread.com +2 ValueInvesting.io +2
7.1% β ValueInvesting.io +1 ValueInvesting.io +1 8.78% β www.alphaspread.com 15.38% β YCharts +8 GuruFocus +8 YCharts +8 For this calculation, we'll use a WACC of 8.78%.β www.alphaspread.com
3. Terminal Value: Assuming a perpetual growth rate of 4% beyond 2027, the terminal value (TV) at the end of 2027 is calculated as:β
TV 2027 = FCF 2027 × ( 1 + π ) WACC − π = 12.081 × ( 1 + 0.04 ) 0.0878 − 0.04 = $ 263.23
billion TV 2027 β = WACC−g FCF 2027 β ×(1+g) β = 0.0878−0.04 12.081×(1+0.04) β =$263.23billionβ
4. Present Value of FCFs and Terminal Value: Discounting each projected FCF and the terminal value back to present value (2025) using the WACC:β
PV 2025 = $ 5.261 ( 1 + 0.0878 ) 1 = $ 4.84
billion PV 2025 β = (1+0.0878) 1
$5.261 β =$4.84billionβ PV 2026 = $ 8.675 ( 1 + 0.0878 ) 2 = $ 7.33
billion PV 2026 β = (1+0.0878) 2
$8.675 β =$7.33billionβ PV 2027 = $ 12.081 ( 1 + 0.0878 ) 3 = $ 9.47
billion PV 2027 β = (1+0.0878) 3
$12.081 β =$9.47billionβ PV TV = $ 263.23 ( 1 + 0.0878 ) 3 = $ 206.52
billion PV TV β = (1+0.0878) 3
$263.23 β =$206.52billionβ
5. Enterprise Value (EV): Summing the present values:β
EV = $ 4.84 + $ 7.33 + $ 9.47 + $ 206.52 = $ 228.16
billion EV=$4.84+$7.33+$9.47+$206.52=$228.16billionβ
6. Equity Value and Fair Share Price: Assuming negligible net debt, the equity value is approximately equal to the EV. With 3.21 billion shares outstanding, the fair value per share is:β
$ 228.16
billion 3.21
billion shares = $ 71.06
per share 3.21billion shares $228.16billion β =$71.06per shareβ
Conclusion: Based on this DCF analysis, Tesla's estimated fair market value is approximately $71.06 per share, significantly lower than the current market price of $225.16 per share. This suggests that Tesla's stock may be overvalued according to these projections. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: final reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759243) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:19 PM Author: """'"'"""'' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759251) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... And that's not even considering that most of the free world is boycotting his product. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759266) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:28 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
CR the REAL price is zero, where it's headed soon.
Just like BTC, incidentally.
Trust me, I know these things!
-- XO Jewish Pumos |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:50 PM Author: ~~(> ' ' )> Thinking about where value comes from is a worthwhile exercise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759362) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Don't worry we've already covered that at length here. (Executive Summary: BTC is worthless scam shit that is heading to zero veddy veddy soon, while physical gold is incredibly precious due to its many extremely useful and inherently valuable intrinsic traits.)
https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694649&mc=37&forum_id=2 |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: ~~(> ' ' )> I'm almost impressed that you're so committed to insanely shitty arguments by lazy sarcasm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759401) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:09 PM Author: """'"'"""'' his mental illness is a natural wonder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759426) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
(Jewish man whose entire life 10+ hours every day revolves around making threads about me on an obscure online message board) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:10 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Lol brother if you think anything I said ITT was a "lazy argument," you're unironically a fucking retard.
But we already knew that. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: ~~(> ' ' )> Nope. You're lazy and ridiculously repetitive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759481) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:32 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
(Dumb bitter fag) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:47 PM Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,,..,:,,:,,.:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,;.,:.::, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759610) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:47 PM Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,,..,:,,:,,.:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,;.,:.::, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759607) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: The Last Starfighter tesla is a glorified meme stonk and the only reason it hasn't crashed is because of how much institutional wealth is in it and no one wants to trigger a mass sell off. the theory of what this stock should be worth is completely schizophrenic at this point. but then again the market doesn't know how the fuck to price in the tariffs and the DOGE gutting either. stocks are fraud&lies astrology, this is a prime example of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759301) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: """'"'"""'' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759308) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
-- literally XO Jewish Pumos re crypto for 12+ years running |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: """'"'"""'' wow, jewish pumos were right on both counts.
why aren't you intelligent like the other jews? |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:46 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
CR, the only thing I feel dumber about holding in 2025 than TSLA is, uh, BTC.
Thank god you never fell for either of those scams!
*farts cum* |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: """'"'"""'' do you need a tissue for that cum on your ass? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759352) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: The Last Starfighter i'm not talking about crypto, re-read above. i guarantee you big investors are noiselessly as possible trying to get rid of small lots of tesla to bag holders. expect this shit to keep creeping down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759349) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: """'"'"""'' why not just dump it at once? wouldn't it be a race between big investors to offload all their shares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759355) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:49 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
I won't be shocked it TSLA drops 75% or whatever in the short/midterm. I also won't care or be concerned, considering that I was never planning to sell any of my TSLA in that timeframe to begin with and I have never considered TSLA to be a short/midterm play.
Here's the only question that should actually matter to anyone who isn't retarded or poor: Do you think TSLA will rebound and hit new ATHs in the next 5-10 years?
I think the answer is "yes," and I have plenty of money riding on that bet.
If you think the answer is "no it's fukt," then my follow up question to you is why you aren't choosing to make your own money by betting on that permanent decline if you're so sure of it?
(The real answer, of course, is that most people who are confidently weighing in with anti-Tesla takes in 2025 are either too poor to afford to take bets on something like that which is a good indicator that they're probably fucking dumb losers who don't have good instincts/takes period, or they're really just "hurr durr my team rocks ur team sucks hehe" fucking retards who don't actually know shit about this company on a deep and meaningful level and they're just mindlessly cheering for "Team Blue." Which is why a guy like me, who has literally spent hundreds of hours of his life over the last decade deeply researching Tesla, finds their arguments to be so facile and retarded. But then again, I've been long on TSLA since way back when Elon Musk was literally a beloved hero to the Left, although of course Jewish Quotemos and Pumos now act like I just decided to like him two years ago when he bought Twitter or whatever.) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: """'"'"""'' (((idiot))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759383) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: The Last Starfighter i don't doubt the share price could build up again on a solid business case footing after elon-is-magic evaporates but it's a question of how low to what highs in what time frame. the point that is that it's hilariously overvalued right now because of it's memestonkiness and is due for a severe correction. why not get out now and get back in later for cheaper if it's such a great company absent elon's autistic iron man schtick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759385) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:02 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Assuming that you're actually engaging in good faith, if you really think that the TSLA stonk price is based on some mindless "Elon is Magic" meme, you are operating on a very facile and surface-level understanding of what Elon (partially but not exclusively through Tesla) has accomplished.
Elon haters like to dismissively tout the "lol yeah Elon is Magic" line as though it's all a bunch of dumb bullshit, but they seem to conveniently forget that that line of thinking gradually emerged and consolidated over time and it stems from the fact that Elon Musk actually has the accomplishments to back up his status as a visionary once-in-a-generation innovator and businessman. And although it's now fashionable to pretend that everyone hates Elon or whatever, in reality he has >200 million social media followers and he commands a huge cult of true believers and the idea that the average consumer will reject another miracle product that he rolls out on principle just because a bunch of shrieking leftists have declared that he's "Literally Hitler" is the most hilarious copium I've ever heard. Yeah sure and no one will ever vote for Donald Trump (currrently enjoying his highest levels of popularity ever as he sits in the WH once again) after the horrors of 1/6, trust me!
But then again, on the topic of Blondalf Drumpfth, libs are still walking around pretending that this guy -- who willed himself to power once against all the odds and then successfully executed the most incredible return-to-power in American history against seemingly even longer odds, beating them back at every single turn along the way -- is literally an 80 IQ orange senile buffoon who drools on himself and shits his pants while golfing.
Keep underestimating Elon and Trump, libs. IMO it's working really well for you so far. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:47 PM Author: ~~(> ' ' )> Clean that shit before posting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759353) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759389) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: """'"'"""'' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759332) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: '"'"'"''" It's plummeted all the way to the price it was in October 2024! What a fall! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759345) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:48 PM Author: """'"'"""'' TSLA stock Nov. 2021 = 407
TSLA stock today = 225
these games are fun! ur net worth is still trash btw. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: '"'"'"''" I don't own Tesla stock because I think their cars are ugly feminine pieces of shit but all the doom threading is LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759366) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:56 PM Author: """'"'"""'' it's not LOL, ur either being disingenuous or not paying attention.
TSLA is literally the worst performing S&P stock this year.
https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-biggest-sp-500-loser-2025/
Elon is heavily leveraged, and he will need to sell should it dip below $150 or so.
The stock will dip below $150 (it's already broken well below its resistance level).
Musk will sell billions in shares, it will dip much further. |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:08 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
So you're saying that not only is TSLA cooked but Elon himself is cooked, and this is just settled reality -- indeed, an inevitability?
Wow!
It sounds like there is a TON of money to be made by people betting against Elon on the way down. Literally life-changing fortunes are about to be amassed by people just like you over the next few months.
How much do you personally have on the line, brother? |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 4:53 PM Author: "'''''"'""'''"'"' Isn't everything down? Stock market is just a Jewish numbers racket propped up by federal money printing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759375) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Yeah man every company is down over 50% in the past two months and are experiencing historic plummeting sales due to a worldwide consumer boycott (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759446) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
False, it's just TSLA everyone else is doing great IMO
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/mag-7-become-maleficent-7-144854793.html |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:29 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Grok, by how much have the magnificent seven companies’ share prices changed since Trump’s inauguration?
Here are the company names and their share price percentage changes from January 20, 2025 (Trump’s inauguration) to March 18, 2025:
• Tesla (TSLA): -44.31% • Alphabet (GOOGL): -21.24% • Amazon (AMZN): -18.85% • Meta (META): -15.50% • Apple (AAPL): -9.88% • Microsoft (MSFT): -7.60% • Nvidia (NVDA): -3.78%
π€ |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:30 PM Author: """'"'"""'' looks like one company dropped by more than double the nearest "peer" company (LOL)... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759534) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:32 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. I’m not a disbarred lawyer or anything but I think you’re right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759553) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:33 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
So they're all doing great, except for TSLA? Just like I said! |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:32 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. How much have their share prices changed since December 1, 2024?
• Tesla (TSLA): -44.20% • Alphabet (GOOGL): -15.15% • Apple (AAPL): -15.06% • Nvidia (NVDA): -13.97% • Amazon (AMZN): -12.09% • Microsoft (MSFT): -9.01% • Meta (META): -0.54%
π€ |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: final reason I'm sorry for starting this thread guys. Everytime someone makes a thread about one of TBF's investments he spergs out and makes it everybody's problem and you didn't deserve that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759437) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: The Last Starfighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759477) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: ,.,.,.,..,.,,..,:,,:,,.:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,;.,:.::, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759559) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:35 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759563) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:35 PM Author: """'"'"""'' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759566) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:15 PM Author: Epistemic Humility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48760130) |
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Date: March 18th, 2025 5:39 PM Author: I like the way you poast this site is very passionate about TSLA stock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695999&forum_id=2#48759578) |