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Buying a 3M home. FMA bros.

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milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Buy what you want! It's all fraud
Young and fresh Bboooooooooom
  09/21/24
900 sq foot 2 bed 1 bath in the Bay Area that is a tear down...
poppy idiotic rehab
  06/11/21
basically. hjome itself would cost like 500k in other parts ...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
That's what I was going to ask. A $3m home could either be ...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
1.5mm yes. but for 3mm it should be a very nice house.
iridescent shaky space
  06/11/21
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Burlingame/1208-Cabrillo-Ave-94010...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Omg, my $1m house is almost 2x as big and with less than hal...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
It'll sell for $7 million in 5 years.
nudist senate laser beams
  06/11/21
Who the fuck is going to pay that? Or is that a statement o...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
ALL CASH CHINESE BUYERS
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
lmao
Garnet Area
  06/12/21
i think it really depends on brrrr and where we go with that...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
But is it just "it'll keep up with inflation" or d...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
just dont buy it lol.
iridescent shaky space
  06/11/21
FMA is right. lol
citrine twinkling uncleanness business firm
  06/11/21
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL you should probably kill yourself
gold queen of the night incel
  06/12/21
jfc
Nubile Flirting Orchestra Pit Gay Wizard
  06/14/21
I assume this is FANTASTIC flame.
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
https://search.longhornrealty.net/idx/details/listing/c007/8...
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
"enough space to produce all your own food plus you hav...
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/12/21
anyone who owns a property like that is going to be very wel...
Bat-shit-crazy indigo factory reset button skinny woman
  06/12/21
good luck defending the perimeter of a 30+-acre property fro...
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/12/21
I'm sure you'll do way better in your shoebox apartment or t...
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
180. Taxes are also 1/10th what they are for the CA home.
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
Why so down? Buying a home should be celebrated!
mauve striped hyena
  06/11/21
12k/mo PITI after 750k down prop taxes alone are 3k/mo
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
California RIP
trip lake partner corner
  07/05/21
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bistre nursing home gunner
  06/11/21
Didn't know they made houses.
Wonderful Institution Milk
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Garnet Area
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Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
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Pungent friendly grandma athletic conference
  06/11/21
that's how you tape the cardboard boxes together to build a ...
citrine twinkling uncleanness business firm
  06/11/21
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razzle-dazzle pervert halford
  06/12/21
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Costumed chapel immigrant
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Talented school wrinkle
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lavender provocative locale mexican
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appetizing splenetic tanning salon clown
  06/12/21
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Electric slimy forum
  06/13/21
Congratulations. Write a ceremonial check for $14,000 every ...
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/11/21
maybe that will be the house wallpaper
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Your wife must be stoked. Do all her friends live in cheaper...
Avocado dashing potus
  06/11/21
yes, she's from a middle class background. we have couple fr...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
LMAO I smell an upgrade coming about 4 years from now.
Insanely creepy brass hunting ground church
  06/11/21
why??
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Because one night she’ll get wasted and tell You what...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
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laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/11/21
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Garnet Area
  06/11/21
jfc
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/11/21
This guy husbands.
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
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Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard
  09/21/24
why not just leave california
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
So he can go make 10% of his current salary in Arkansas?
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/11/21
This is such a false dichotomy.
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
There's more money concentrated in the bay area than anywher...
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/11/21
After you take away taxes and massive COL, I'm not really su...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
You live in a flat humid area. You don't care about weather ...
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/11/21
I also live right on the ocean with a beach that goes for mi...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
Lol earthquakes yeah so difficult to live with. They never ...
Coral Jewess Meetinghouse
  06/11/21
That's kind of fair and we have hurricanes which are similar...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
It all blows into Nevada
Saffron awkward lay
  06/12/21
family, weather, jobs, i like ca :(
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Then enjoy, shitlib. I'm buying about a just over $1m hou...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
voted trump 2x
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
I don't understand how a Trumpmo can like CA.
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
Out your city/state
Avocado dashing potus
  06/11/21
I'm a quotemo for a reason, but red state that was part of t...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
How South Carolina bro?
Odious Useless Circlehead
  06/12/21
Gorgeous.
Garnet Area
  06/12/21
ca wasnt always rancid shitlib bro. we voted for ARNOLD
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Sure, and that CA is gone.
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
RINO Arnold?
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
But even that would be impossible today.
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
Being near family is 180
mauve striped hyena
  06/11/21
cr. parents have had sojme health scares so either i suck gc...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
except for the people, california is probably the best place...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
if you change people to shitlibs, 100%
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
I understand that perspective, but people are unbelievably i...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
oh, definitely. i'd never move to san francisco and that ma...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
I spent a lot of time in that area a few years back and you ...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
yeah, but the nature you can access from SF in a couple hour...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
That's a massive overstatement.
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
farms and great vegetables everywhere. wine country and red...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
You seem to have lived primarily on the W. Coast. There are...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
lol
Stimulating menage
  06/12/21
i'm a proud eastcoastmo
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/12/21
I think this statement is ignorant.
Titillating temple electric furnace
  06/11/21
in what way?
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
They’re in a financially unsustainable position, and m...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
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Garnet Area
  06/12/21
What's your HHI? How much of it is from you vs. your wife? ...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
i make 700, wife 150. should get a promo that bumps me to 90...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
This seems ... a little risky. Not "blow your brains o...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
yeah, it's risky for sure. but ths is waht houses in desirab...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Prole take to call it "equivalent" based on the si...
frisky unholy dopamine
  06/11/21
except for like gatormo and rsf we're all living paycheck to...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
explain how its way better to have lower debt at higher rate...
motley sanctuary deer antler
  06/11/21
i think the math works out that way if you plan to own it fo...
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
this doesn't make sense. you don't have $$ locked up in an i...
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/12/21
Why is it risky? The 3x salary thing is only applicable to p...
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
Proles don’t pay taxes. He pays 50%
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
Good Lord, $3m house with $3k/month taxes on $700k personal ...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
all in is 12k a month
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Does that figure include maintenance, bills, capital expense...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
just eat a chipotle burrito a day while lying on your sleepi...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Yeah so 12k isn't your all in. It never is with a house. Y...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
fuck, canceling contract
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Just plan my friend. Plan for your ass to be raped with bil...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
ty. how much cushion do you think i need
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
I just said. Take your monthly mortgage + (if not escrowed)...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
yeah but how much of that is really relevnat if you lose you...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Cut it in half in an extreme starvation scenario.
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
*hands keys to bank repo guy* "The cabana's all painte...
Wonderful Institution Milk
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milky trust fund kitty cat
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startling office cuckoldry
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swashbuckling stage therapy
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clear kitty sneaky criminal
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Garnet Area
  06/11/21
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soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
You need 100K liquid minimum
Odious Useless Circlehead
  06/12/21
Are you solidly worth high six figures, of if you got hit wi...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
>Does that figure include [series of expenses that are a ...
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
that's perfectly reasonable
Maize native
  06/11/21
post it?
overrated shitlib range
  06/11/21
(doobs here's an exmapleo f what i did NOT buy https:...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
Oof!
Flickering supple box office yarmulke
  06/12/21
That place makes no sense. This one is over a million less, ...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
lmao at redwood city being a 'better school district' - who ...
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/15/21
They’re both shit.
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
burlingame is one of the top in the bay mang Burlingame H...
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/15/21
It’s 36th in SF, but nice try https://www.usnews.co...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
and the other one is?
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/15/21
Redwood City has one higher, and another two lower. But none...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
no one who lives in bay area thinks RWC is remotely close to...
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/15/21
My guess is it’s a cool place for FAANG strivers to go...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/16/21
Seems like this should discourage super striver parents. Pu...
irradiated learning disabled plaza
  06/16/21
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/121-Toyon-...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
If it is like that then that's not terrible at all. That's a...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
Yeah thanks. We're really happy. It isn't a ton of sq. fee...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
The views are stunning (some of the best I've ever seen), th...
Garnet Area
  06/11/21
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swashbuckling stage therapy
  06/11/21
Thanks again. I'll share some pictures with the bort once w...
startling office cuckoldry
  06/11/21
180 if that's actually your house, thought oyu were flaming....
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
nice man
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
It’s a beautiful house, congrats brother!
Costumed chapel immigrant
  06/12/21
It's shit. You can look at it but you can't live there.
Flickering supple box office yarmulke
  06/12/21
Why?
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Awesome house.
frisky unholy dopamine
  06/11/21
that's a pretty sick place
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
That house is amazing. Congratulations.
Avocado dashing potus
  06/12/21
i don't get it. why is the shithole house in Burlingame more...
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/12/21
shit schools, far away from opera, trump trump
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/12/21
there's an opera in the suburbs 17 miles from san francisco?
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/12/21
Lmao my house is 20% bigger brand new for 350K. Flyover is...
Odious Useless Circlehead
  06/12/21
There's a lot more to that house than your 3000 ft2 mcmansio...
hairraiser hateful stag film
  06/14/21
Nice
Irate rebellious party of the first part
  06/13/21
OK that's a $3M house. 180 bro
hairraiser hateful stag film
  06/14/21
That house is perfect
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
Props.
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
OP I will go on record saying that you made a good choice. ...
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/11/21
ty, i hope so. i have spent the last 20+ years complaining a...
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
I think the only real danger is political
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/12/21
didn't know 3M made homes
walnut thriller telephone
  06/11/21
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soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
OP: what’s your net worth? If it’s only $500k, I...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/11/21
this is xoxo everyone's NW is higher than 500k
milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/11/21
SF prices i sort of understand. but someone explain to me...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/11/21
the fed
iridescent shaky space
  06/11/21
it's all fucking make believe
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/14/21
biotech cos
Narrow-minded fishy toilet seat
  06/14/21
Sad
sinister double fault elastic band
  06/11/21
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fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/11/21
im gay
180 violent ceo
  06/11/21
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razzle disrespectful associate sandwich
  06/11/21
you could buy the exact same home in the nicest gated part o...
disturbing hideous ratface bawdyhouse
  06/11/21
LJL, you could have bought 1.5 million pepperoni sticks
exhilarant stead main people
  06/11/21
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hairraiser hateful stag film
  06/14/21
Dow Chemical homes are better imho
Out-of-control Trump Supporter
  06/11/21
This thread is an example of how people on xoxo are idiots. ...
brilliant brunch mediation
  06/11/21
It’s usually more of a job security issue. IMO, there&...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/12/21
>there’s no reason to put your family at risk of ba...
soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market
  06/12/21
I find it more of a prole tell to need a mortgage to buy som...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/12/21
Bro the cheapest livable house you can buy in SF is like $1....
Saffron awkward lay
  06/12/21
Or you rent while you save up, hit a $5m net worth in 5-9 ye...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/12/21
"Or you rent while you save up, hit a $5m net worth in ...
brilliant brunch mediation
  06/13/21
Real estate isn't an automatic win. That $3m house can easil...
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
probably not. but it definitely might become a $2.7MM home.
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/13/21
Once upon a time, people had expensive property in Detroit a...
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
i know man, that's why i said probably not. it probably won...
clear kitty sneaky criminal
  06/13/21
Look at the demographics, politics and financial situation. ...
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
Again, my entire point is that when you make 850k HHI, the &...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
The weirdest thing is that it isn't even that nice of a hous...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
5x levered real estate net of costs has a lower ROI than eve...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/13/21
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Garnet Area
  06/13/21
The prole tell is thinking people need a mortgage versus it ...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/13/21
cr. You take a loan when you have the ability to generate re...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
I actually strongly agree with this. And if OP has like $5m...
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
Exactly you wouldn't fucking go into bankruptcy unless (i) y...
brilliant brunch mediation
  06/12/21
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embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma
  06/12/21
As it turns out, all those things were very correlated in 20...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/13/21
Some states are recourse states. Some aren't.
stirring lemon brethren
  06/13/21
Deficiency judgement not a risk in CA. Available only under ...
Aggressive Scourge Upon The Earth Location
  06/13/21
"Why would he go bankrupt? Get fired, can't find a job ...
Garnet Area
  06/12/21
"Also wringing your hands about exposing your family to...
Garnet Area
  06/12/21
He could call me a “risk averse faggot”, but for...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/13/21
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Garnet Area
  06/13/21
People making $700k/year are established in their careers an...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/13/21
cr
Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/13/21
And if he has millions in liquid assets then I agree that it...
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
This is especially true with a onewrongmove shitcanning. Som...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
But even if he got $150k, he won't be able to carry that mor...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
That’s my point
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
The reality is that in any corp, there are very few jobs pay...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Even Nutella and her co can get got. She’s handled her...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
When you can you get to a certain point in your career and w...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
This is such a silly philosophy.
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
(John Edwards circa 2008)
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
LJL. what a bunch of risk averse pussies. yes, he could lose...
embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma
  06/14/21
...
fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop
  06/14/21
The real issue is that the risk doesn't result in some amazi...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
I know you’re like a tough guy, being pumo and all, bu...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
Lol right, you know so many people making that type of money...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
Knowing a lot of these people isn't rare, and if you work at...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Knowing a lot of those people is rare and I almost never see...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
Or rent for $4.5k/month, save up and eventually find opportu...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Nutella’s forecast for CA real estate is a pretty big ...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
CA sucks and I have plenty of issues with living here. Havi...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
He’s not in Malibu or Santa Monica. If the companies t...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
I’m no Bay Area expert but housing there is a lot more...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
Noooo. More like Northridge, but the Bay isn’t really ...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Yes just find a $4500/mo 2br apt for your family of 4 in Red...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
Yeah, I don't buy the concept that OP can't possibly live in...
Garnet Area
  06/14/21
Which side are you on? A $3m house is consumption. If he wer...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
Except you need a place to live and rent realistically costs...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
You’ve lived in three homes for the past 10 years? ...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/14/21
I’ve only sold one, a 2br condo. That one was my one ...
lime whorehouse boistinker
  06/14/21
Maybe you glossed over this part, but I was talking about pr...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
dumb slantfaced cunt got BTFO
laughsome locus affirmative action
  06/15/21
Not really. I’m just having a discussion. She can be m...
Onyx spot foreskin
  06/15/21
Honestly, I love these threads. I recently bought my first ...
Garnet Area
  06/15/21
cr
embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma
  06/12/21
That isn't how high salaries work. Half of more of that is p...
Garnet Area
  06/13/21
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Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig
  06/13/21
"People are seriously fretting that a guy who makes EIG...
soggy yellow theater stage
  06/15/21
credited. also nutella is vastly overstating how easily repl...
Narrow-minded fishy toilet seat
  06/16/21
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milky trust fund kitty cat
  06/17/22
This worked out ok fwiw
Darsint
  09/21/24
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Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard
  09/21/24


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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:40 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat



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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:39 PM
Author: Young and fresh Bboooooooooom (Fraud@fraud.com)

Buy what you want! It's all fraud

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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:45 PM
Author: poppy idiotic rehab

900 sq foot 2 bed 1 bath in the Bay Area that is a tear down or needs a gut Reno?

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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

basically. hjome itself would cost like 500k in other parts of country. decent lot. would love to gut reno it in 5-10 years

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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Garnet Area

That's what I was going to ask. A $3m home could either be some awesome house on the beach or some huge mansion or just be a function of living in a really shitty place where it is actually just a normal house. The latter is 120.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611409)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: iridescent shaky space

1.5mm yes. but for 3mm it should be a very nice house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611521)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:09 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Burlingame/1208-Cabrillo-Ave-94010/home/2040535

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611531)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Omg, my $1m house is almost 2x as big and with less than half the taxes.

Question - is this really a great investment? Can this really sell for say, $5m in a 10 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611555)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: nudist senate laser beams

It'll sell for $7 million in 5 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611656)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:00 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Who the fuck is going to pay that? Or is that a statement on hyperinflation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613180)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:40 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

ALL CASH CHINESE BUYERS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614332)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 4:42 PM
Author: Garnet Area

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42617035)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

i think it really depends on brrrr and where we go with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611668)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:03 PM
Author: Garnet Area

But is it just "it'll keep up with inflation" or do you actually see the area appreciating beyond what it is now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613196)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: iridescent shaky space

just dont buy it lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611557)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:07 PM
Author: citrine twinkling uncleanness business firm

FMA is right. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613211)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:23 AM
Author: gold queen of the night incel

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

you should probably kill yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614508)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: Nubile Flirting Orchestra Pit Gay Wizard

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625987)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:25 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

I assume this is FANTASTIC flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633256)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:38 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

https://search.longhornrealty.net/idx/details/listing/c007/8618830/Dripping-Springs-TX-78620

$3M gets you hilltop views, beautiful waterfront, and 30+ acres a 30 min drive from austin

enough space to produce all your own food plus you have a water source for when shit hits the fan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614324)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 7:55 AM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

"enough space to produce all your own food plus you have a water source for when shit hits the fan"

lol yeah i'm sure when "shit hits the fan" the roving bands of armed niggers will just live and let live

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615037)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:19 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy indigo factory reset button skinny woman

anyone who owns a property like that is going to be very well-prepared for roving bands of armed niggers, hth

it's the tender libs in $3M shitbox "bungalows" in the bay area who are going to get the full diversity experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615994)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:26 PM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

good luck defending the perimeter of a 30+-acre property from multiple armed packs of marauding niggers without a private army, ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42616055)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:26 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

I'm sure you'll do way better in your shoebox apartment or tiny house in CA/NY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633260)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Garnet Area

180. Taxes are also 1/10th what they are for the CA home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621609)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: mauve striped hyena

Why so down? Buying a home should be celebrated!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611385)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:48 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

12k/mo PITI after 750k down

prop taxes alone are 3k/mo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611396)



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Date: July 5th, 2021 9:29 PM
Author: trip lake partner corner

California RIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42736908)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: bistre nursing home gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611387)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:49 PM
Author: Wonderful Institution Milk

Didn't know they made houses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611398)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:50 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611403)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:32 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611683)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:44 PM
Author: Pungent friendly grandma athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611735)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:08 PM
Author: citrine twinkling uncleanness business firm

that's how you tape the cardboard boxes together to build a mansion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613213)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 7:58 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle pervert halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615043)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:39 AM
Author: Costumed chapel immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615138)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:47 PM
Author: Talented school wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615799)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:47 PM
Author: lavender provocative locale mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615804)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:20 PM
Author: appetizing splenetic tanning salon clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42616003)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Electric slimy forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42620645)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

Congratulations. Write a ceremonial check for $14,000 every month to yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611411)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

maybe that will be the house wallpaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611476)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:54 PM
Author: Avocado dashing potus

Your wife must be stoked. Do all her friends live in cheaper houses?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611421)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

yes, she's from a middle class background. we have couple friends that are much richer though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611479)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:06 PM
Author: Insanely creepy brass hunting ground church

LMAO I smell an upgrade coming about 4 years from now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611511)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:09 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

why??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611535)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:34 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Because one night she’ll get wasted and tell

You what she really thinks: “Becky has a fucking $10m house and her husband is a FUCKING LOSER. And if he’s a loser, what does that make us? Why the fuck did I even marry you? My mom was right. A loser is always a loser.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611691)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:09 PM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613218)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:41 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613353)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:41 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613355)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:32 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

This guy husbands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633296)



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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#48116850)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:56 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

why not just leave california

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611436)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:57 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

So he can go make 10% of his current salary in Arkansas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611442)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: Garnet Area

This is such a false dichotomy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611481)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:04 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

There's more money concentrated in the bay area than anywhere else in the world and they're giving it away

Also California weather and nature is amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611488)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:07 PM
Author: Garnet Area

After you take away taxes and massive COL, I'm not really sure you come out ahead.

Weather and nature - Wildfires and earthquakes seem awesome, sure. A lot of places have great nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611516)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

You live in a flat humid area. You don't care about weather and scenery/nature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611545)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:14 PM
Author: Garnet Area

I also live right on the ocean with a beach that goes for miles. We have plenty of beautiful parks here. People here are outdoors far more than most "urban" types.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611571)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: Coral Jewess Meetinghouse

Lol earthquakes yeah so difficult to live with. They never happen and don’t matter when they do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611547)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Garnet Area

That's kind of fair and we have hurricanes which are similar in nature. The fires seem far worse since they make the air toxic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611574)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:12 AM
Author: Saffron awkward lay

It all blows into Nevada

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614671)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

family, weather, jobs, i like ca :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611480)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Then enjoy, shitlib.

I'm buying about a just over $1m house that is large and nice a few minutes walk from the ocean. But BLM riots, high taxes and homeless people are good too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611484)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:04 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

voted trump 2x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611489)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:05 PM
Author: Garnet Area

I don't understand how a Trumpmo can like CA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611505)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:06 PM
Author: Avocado dashing potus

Out your city/state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611514)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: Garnet Area

I'm a quotemo for a reason, but red state that was part of the Confederacy and is on the ocean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611519)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:31 AM
Author: Odious Useless Circlehead

How South Carolina bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615117)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:01 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Gorgeous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615882)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:07 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

ca wasnt always rancid shitlib bro. we voted for ARNOLD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611515)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Sure, and that CA is gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611524)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:35 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

RINO Arnold?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611696)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:03 PM
Author: Garnet Area

But even that would be impossible today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613198)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: mauve striped hyena

Being near family is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611537)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

cr. parents have had sojme health scares so either i suck gc teat by uprooting to another city to leave them, or suck gc teat by overpaying to stay here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611542)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

except for the people, california is probably the best place on our planet and i'm not sure anyone else is even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611617)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:23 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

if you change people to shitlibs, 100%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611625)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:25 PM
Author: Garnet Area

I understand that perspective, but people are unbelievably important in defining your QOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611634)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

oh, definitely. i'd never move to san francisco and that makes me sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611644)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: Garnet Area

I spent a lot of time in that area a few years back and you enjoy the nature and then are done with it, IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611651)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:44 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

yeah, but the nature you can access from SF in a couple hours is fucking mind blowing compared to just about anywhere that's not SF.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611734)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 6:20 PM
Author: Garnet Area

That's a massive overstatement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612651)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 9:16 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

farms and great vegetables everywhere. wine country and redwoods to the north. world class beaches and big sur to the south. add an extra hour and you're in yosemite or tahoe.

what else compares? LA maybe? seattle?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613464)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 10:44 PM
Author: Garnet Area

You seem to have lived primarily on the W. Coast. There are farms quickly outside of most major cities. Chicago, NYC, even DC. Those are not "world-class beaches" because the water is freezing year around. It isn't even on the level of North Carolina beaches. Big Sur is beautiful, but so are the Appalachians that run the E. Coast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613848)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:27 AM
Author: Stimulating menage

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614707)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:36 AM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

i'm a proud eastcoastmo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614731)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: Titillating temple electric furnace

I think this statement is ignorant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613322)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 9:19 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

in what way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613485)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:36 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

They’re in a financially unsustainable position, and making it worse by the day. Anyone with any money who stays is going to find themselves paying 5% property taxes and a 3% wealth tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611702)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 1:02 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615894)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 2:57 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

What's your HHI? How much of it is from you vs. your wife? How stable has it been past few years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611443)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:04 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

i make 700, wife 150. should get a promo that bumps me to 900 in a couple years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611487)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:06 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

This seems ... a little risky. Not "blow your brains out w/ a shotgun you're fucked for life" risky but something. You probably overspent by about 500k; I would have tried to stay to 2.5. But if you're fine clenching the desk for a few years until you get the 900k bump then you're golden. Also never trust your wife to maintain a salary treat it as play money made by a bird brain that could stop at any time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611513)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

yeah, it's risky for sure. but ths is waht houses in desirable bay area locations go for (2.5 gets you a 3 br 2 ba). at least i have basically as good job security as possible.

also with rates so low this is the equivalent of buying a 2.6/7 place a few years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611525)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:04 PM
Author: frisky unholy dopamine

Prole take to call it "equivalent" based on the size of the mortgage payment. That only matters if you're living paycheck to paycheck or actually plan to fully pay off the mortgage to completion, which almost nobody ever does. Way, way, way better to have lower debt at a higher rate than higher debt at a lower rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612177)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:11 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

except for like gatormo and rsf we're all living paycheck to paycheck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612210)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 6:30 PM
Author: motley sanctuary deer antler

explain how its way better to have lower debt at higher rate? is this assuming you'd refinance a few times?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612719)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:44 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

i think the math works out that way if you plan to own it for a couple years then sell, where you won't have meaningfully paid principal anyway, so at least you didn't have as much $$ locked up in an illiquid asset

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614353)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:01 AM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

this doesn't make sense. you don't have $$ locked up in an illiquid asset if you have debt and sell before paying that debt off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615049)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:41 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

Why is it risky? The 3x salary thing is only applicable to proles because so much of their salary goes towards other essentials like food, car payment, etc. That doesn't scale as your salary goes up.

Even someone making 300K/yr doesn't need to observe the 3x salary rule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614337)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 4:00 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Proles don’t pay taxes. He pays 50%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42632443)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Good Lord, $3m house with $3k/month taxes on $700k personal income and $850k hhi? That's ... bold and bolder than I would ever be. If you lost your job how long could you last before you lost the house?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611539)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:11 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

all in is 12k a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611548)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:12 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Does that figure include maintenance, bills, capital expenses (the a/c breaks, the sprinkling system needs to be maintained, the low voltage transformer for the landscaping lighting goes out, the attic ventilation needs to be corrected)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611556)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:13 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

just eat a chipotle burrito a day while lying on your sleeping bag bro. ez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611565)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Yeah so 12k isn't your all in. It never is with a house. You need to take your taxes + mortgage + insurance per month and add AT LEAST 15% on top of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611573)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:16 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

fuck, canceling contract

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611580)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:18 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Just plan my friend. Plan for your ass to be raped with bills & expenses, trust me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611591)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:19 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

ty. how much cushion do you think i need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611594)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

I just said. Take your monthly mortgage + (if not escrowed) property taxes + amortized monthly insurance cost and then add 15%. I've found that, all in, that gets me to about the total amount I have to spend on specifically house shit each month; some months it will be lower but you'll catch up when you have to repaint the cabana or have the lawn triple irrigated because of moles or whatever. This is assuming nothing catastrophic happens e.g., a non-insured flood of your sub-basement basketball court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611618)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:26 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

yeah but how much of that is really relevnat if you lose your job (your original q), you arent gonna fix any non life critical shit if that happens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611638)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:28 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Cut it in half in an extreme starvation scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611652)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: Wonderful Institution Milk

*hands keys to bank repo guy*

"The cabana's all painted by the way, good as new"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611665)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611671)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:30 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611673)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:32 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611682)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 4:10 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611874)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:07 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613210)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:26 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633262)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:34 AM
Author: Odious Useless Circlehead

You need 100K liquid minimum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615129)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Are you solidly worth high six figures, of if you got hit with a sexual harassment suit and got shitcanned, would you be begging the state to hire you for $160k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611712)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:43 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

>Does that figure include [series of expenses that are a drop in the bucket compared to servicing the mortgage]

dude this isn't a 1K/mo mortgage where he might have to pay 5x that in a month to fix his AC

it's a 12K mortgage where he might have to pay half that in a month to fix his AC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614345)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 9:41 PM
Author: Maize native

that's perfectly reasonable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613614)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:10 PM
Author: overrated shitlib range

post it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611541)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:13 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

(doobs

here's an exmapleo f what i did NOT buy

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Burlingame/1208-Cabrillo-Ave-94010/home/2040535

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611560)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:19 AM
Author: Flickering supple box office yarmulke

Oof!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614690)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 4:07 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

That place makes no sense. This one is over a million less, in a better school district and at least the exterior is nicer

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Redwood-City/632-Palomar-Dr-94062/home/1370601

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42632484)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 4:14 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

lmao at redwood city being a 'better school district' - who are you trying to troll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42632520)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 4:34 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

They’re both shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42632621)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 5:43 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

burlingame is one of the top in the bay mang

Burlingame High School has been recognized nationally for its academic excellence. For 2013, it was ranked 280th in Newsweek's Top 2,000 Public High Schools,[5] 471st nationally by U.S. News & World Report,[6] and 490th by The Washington Post's ranking of "America's Most Challenging High Schools."[7]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633002)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 5:46 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

It’s 36th in SF, but nice try

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/districts/san-mateo-union-high/burlingame-high-3341



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633021)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 5:52 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

and the other one is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633056)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:10 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Redwood City has one higher, and another two lower. But none of this really matter when you’re talking about shit vs shit, like quibbling over UCSC is better than Davis or not. So I admit Redwood City isn’t better, but it’s not worse, let alone $1m worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633178)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:12 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

no one who lives in bay area thinks RWC is remotely close to burlingame. why do you think house prices are lower? is it that everyone who buys houses in burlingame vs redwood city are wrong, or an xo poa is wrong?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633190)



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Date: June 16th, 2021 10:24 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

My guess is it’s a cool place for FAANG strivers to go. So, it’s probably nicer for that reason. But then it’s an even dumber reason for him to have bought there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42635999)



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Date: June 16th, 2021 12:08 AM
Author: irradiated learning disabled plaza

Seems like this should discourage super striver parents. Putting your kid in one of the toughest schools in the nation virtually assures they won’t get straight A’s and will thus be fucked for college admissions which is entirely based on race (non asian/Indian) and SAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42634843)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:14 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/121-Toyon-Ln_Sausalito_CA_94965_M18889-11503

But it's really 4 bedrooms because we're using an attic space as a 4th bedroom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611568)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:17 PM
Author: Garnet Area

If it is like that then that's not terrible at all. That's a gorgeous house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611583)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:18 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Yeah thanks. We're really happy. It isn't a ton of sq. feet but it's beautifully well done inside with great materials and a perfect layout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611587)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Garnet Area

The views are stunning (some of the best I've ever seen), the location is stunning, right around a ton of nature. The house itself is beautiful.

Sure, $3m is a lot but at least I understand why that's worth millions. The example house was just depressing by comparison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611619)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611645)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: startling office cuckoldry

Thanks again. I'll share some pictures with the bort once we've moved in. It's gonna be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611657)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:30 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

180 if that's actually your house, thought oyu were flaming. def poa pics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611674)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:44 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

nice man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611737)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 9:37 AM
Author: Costumed chapel immigrant

It’s a beautiful house, congrats brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615228)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:20 AM
Author: Flickering supple box office yarmulke

It's shit. You can look at it but you can't live there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614692)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:46 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626738)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:07 PM
Author: frisky unholy dopamine

Awesome house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612193)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:45 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

that's a pretty sick place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614359)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:57 AM
Author: Avocado dashing potus

That house is amazing. Congratulations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614413)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:36 AM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

i don't get it. why is the shithole house in Burlingame more expensive than this house in Sausalito?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615132)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:22 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop

shit schools, far away from opera, trump trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615732)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:25 PM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

there's an opera in the suburbs 17 miles from san francisco?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615744)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 8:38 AM
Author: Odious Useless Circlehead

Lmao my house is 20% bigger brand new for 350K. Flyover is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615135)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:42 PM
Author: hairraiser hateful stag film

There's a lot more to that house than your 3000 ft2 mcmansion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626722)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: Irate rebellious party of the first part

Nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42620647)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:41 PM
Author: hairraiser hateful stag film

OK that's a $3M house. 180 bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626710)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:57 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

That house is perfect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626817)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:27 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

Props.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633267)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:19 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

OP I will go on record saying that you made a good choice.

California real estate is desirable for a reason. And nothing that made it desirable is going away any time soon. People scrambling to buy shit holes in flat gross places like Houston is one thing. Buying property in a place that's been desirable for thousands of years (even indians fought over it) and will be desirable in the future is another.

You don't get California weather and nature without a huge premium. But you only live once.

In 20 years I'd bet anything your area will still be desirable where that is seriously debatable for any of the current hot flyover cities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611596)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

ty, i hope so. i have spent the last 20+ years complaining about CA housing prices and they never go down. earthquake will fuck us all though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611606)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:56 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

I think the only real danger is political

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614407)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:32 PM
Author: walnut thriller telephone

didn't know 3M made homes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611685)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:47 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614371)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:41 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

OP: what’s your net worth? If it’s only $500k, I’m curious why you’d do this on 850k HHI. In Cali, that leaves you with like $450k take home. And I assume your taxes will be in the neighborhood of $50k/year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611725)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:47 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat

this is xoxo everyone's NW is higher than 500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611751)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 3:51 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

SF prices i sort of understand.

but someone explain to me why boston suburban home prices are so fucking high ($2MM+). it's worse than new york -- where are these fucking boston people getting their money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611775)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:18 PM
Author: iridescent shaky space

the fed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612245)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

it's all fucking make believe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625100)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 5:35 PM
Author: Narrow-minded fishy toilet seat

biotech cos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626964)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 4:19 PM
Author: sinister double fault elastic band

Sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42611911)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:06 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612190)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 5:05 PM
Author: 180 violent ceo

im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612185)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 6:25 PM
Author: razzle disrespectful associate sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42612680)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:05 PM
Author: disturbing hideous ratface bawdyhouse

you could buy the exact same home in the nicest gated part of vegas for 25% of the price and your take home income would increase 8% from all the tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613202)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:05 PM
Author: exhilarant stead main people

LJL, you could have bought 1.5 million pepperoni sticks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613205)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:44 PM
Author: hairraiser hateful stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626730)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 8:42 PM
Author: Out-of-control Trump Supporter

Dow Chemical homes are better imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42613357)



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Date: June 11th, 2021 11:23 PM
Author: brilliant brunch mediation

This thread is an example of how people on xoxo are idiots. People are seriously fretting that a guy who makes EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS can afford to pay $12 k a month on a house?

It's literally probably like 25% of his take home pay. "Oh no he's going to be house poor! How is he going to handle if the A/C breaks down with only an extra THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS a month left over!"

People are seriously making this argument? Yeah I get it - he may lose his job - then he'll have to sell his house, eat the closing costs, and re-adjust his life. But that applies to fucking everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614005)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:00 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

It’s usually more of a job security issue. IMO, there’s no reason to put your family at risk of bankruptcy because you get dishonorably shitcanned. It’s just a stupid risk to take, even if it’s small. Now, if he had an 850k HHI working for the government, he’s absolutely safe. But that’s why I was asking about specifics.

And no, it doesn’t apply to everyone. I bought my house cash, and I have 3x left over in net worth. I can lose my job and I’m in a pretty easy position

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614172)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:48 AM
Author: soul-stirring well-lubricated legend market

>there’s no reason to put your family at risk of bankruptcy because you get dishonorably shitcanned

Why would he go bankrupt? Get fired, can't find a job for a couple months, just sell the house and move.

Also wringing your hands about exposing your family to bankruptcy is a prole tell. Just declare it and move on. The only down side is you can't get a home loan for a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614373)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:55 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

I find it more of a prole tell to need a mortgage to buy some GC vanity prize, but you’re obviously the old money aristocrat here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614403)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 2:19 AM
Author: Saffron awkward lay

Bro the cheapest livable house you can buy in SF is like $1.5M and you'd give the exact same shitty prole autist risk averse advice if that's what he were buying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614689)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 9:20 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Or you rent while you save up, hit a $5m net worth in 5-9 years, and everything is easy to afford. But again, you’re the filthy rich Vanderbilt descendent, so I defer to you on how to handle upper middle class woes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615206)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 8:54 AM
Author: brilliant brunch mediation

"Or you rent while you save up, hit a $5m net worth in 5-9 years, and everything is easy to afford. But again, you’re the filthy rich Vanderbilt descendent, so I defer to you on how to handle upper middle class woes"

Your net worth would almost assuredly be hire if you put that money into real estate levered with a residential mortgage? I feel like everyone on xoxo is financially illiterate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42620179)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 11:19 AM
Author: Garnet Area

Real estate isn't an automatic win. That $3m house can easily become $1.5m.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42620636)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 2:56 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

probably not. but it definitely might become a $2.7MM home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621486)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 3:19 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Once upon a time, people had expensive property in Detroit and Newark. Then business left those areas and property values crashed. That could easily happen to the SV area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621596)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: clear kitty sneaky criminal

i know man, that's why i said probably not. it probably won't completely go to shit, but it might.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621615)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 4:08 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Look at the demographics, politics and financial situation. How else could it go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621751)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 11:23 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Again, my entire point is that when you make 850k HHI, the “probably not” is a risk that is stupid to take. He could live in a perfectly fine $1.3m 3/3 for a while, and he’s have 1/100th the risk of needing to liquidate and move is family somewhere else. And for what upside? So your house is a little nicer? Who gives a shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42624930)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 3:51 PM
Author: Garnet Area

The weirdest thing is that it isn't even that nice of a house. At least the other $3m house posted ITT is pretty stunning so at least I get it. OP's comparable property is extremely mundane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626392)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 4:33 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

5x levered real estate net of costs has a lower ROI than even value stock investing without leverage. True it’s TCR to take a mortgage when you already have a net worth well in excess of your home’s value, but LJL if you think plowing it into a home that you get no rental income on is a good use of the leverage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621824)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 11:09 AM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42620617)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:02 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

The prole tell is thinking people need a mortgage versus it being a smart financial decision when rates are so low and invest the money instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621923)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

cr. You take a loan when you have the ability to generate returns with that money to justify the loan. A home that you live in doesn’t do that.unless you get really lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42624906)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:32 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

I actually strongly agree with this. And if OP has like $5m in assets then this $3m house is perfectly reasonable and he's still right to take a rate-locked mortgage that is likely to be less than inflation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633295)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:56 AM
Author: brilliant brunch mediation

Exactly you wouldn't fucking go into bankruptcy unless (i) you lost your job, (ii) housing prices massively crashed, (iii) your savings was exhausted, and (iv) you weren't able to find a new job before you spend your exit package.

And even at that point, you could just give the house back to the bank most likely and they wouldn't pursue you for the difference if it was underwater.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42614408)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:56 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615838)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 2:14 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

As it turns out, all those things were very correlated in 2008. Your second paragraph is false. If you have money left over, they will know, and they will take it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42619577)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 3:31 PM
Author: stirring lemon brethren

Some states are recourse states. Some aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621648)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:31 PM
Author: Aggressive Scourge Upon The Earth Location

Deficiency judgement not a risk in CA. Available only under very narrow circumstances not related to purchase money mortgage on single family residence. See CCCP 580 b and d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42622009)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 5:07 PM
Author: Garnet Area

"Why would he go bankrupt? Get fired, can't find a job for a couple months, just sell the house and move."

You assume that selling the house is nbd. If a 2009 type crash happens he could be totally fucked because of a combo of lost job because of crash, can't find new one because of crash, and now can't pay mortgage/taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42617152)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 5:08 PM
Author: Garnet Area

"Also wringing your hands about exposing your family to bankruptcy is a prole tell"

What a stupid point. Obviously if you're "not a prole" that means you have a ton of family money and daddy can write a 7 figure check if necessary, so nbd. No, they're not just ok with losing their house, they just don't have to worry about it because there's always money elsewhere in the family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42617163)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 1:35 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

He could call me a “risk averse faggot”, but for some reason (*cough* he’s Asian *cough*), he’s really intent on making it a prore terr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42619459)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 3:20 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621598)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:00 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

People making $700k/year are established in their careers and can easily get another job if shitcanned. If not $700k, no less than $500k.

People with that sort of HHI also typically have millions in liquid assets so if they have to carry a mortgage for 6 months to a year while they job hunt, it’s NBD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621910)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:07 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621935)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:32 PM
Author: Garnet Area

And if he has millions in liquid assets then I agree that it isn't a huge deal.

I don't necessarily agree that 700k/year jobs are easily replaceable. I've seen many people get pushed out of those and IME very few of them get comparable jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42622014)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 11:16 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

This is especially true with a onewrongmove shitcanning. Some paralegal lies to HR about OP sexuality harassing her. HR/management ignores it. She takes the story public and sues, and OP becomes the fall guy. No one is hiring him for $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42624892)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 1:58 PM
Author: Garnet Area

But even if he got $150k, he won't be able to carry that mortgage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625707)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:08 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

That’s my point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625772)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:41 PM
Author: Garnet Area

The reality is that in any corp, there are very few jobs paying $700k+. In a legal department, that's Deputy General Counsel type pay for a major company. Competition for these jobs is extremely intense. Among DGCs I've seen that get canned - it is exceptionally rare that they get something on the same level. It is also a seniority level where risk increases dramatically (you're expensive enough that your value is scrutinized constantly).

Yes, I realize that Nutella will barge in here and note that she has some unicorn job where everyone makes millions because she's attached to some PE fund and it is like totally nbd but that entire story applies to very few people. IIRC, op is some lawyer at some tech co. (FAGMAN)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625973)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:32 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Even Nutella and her co can get got. She’s handled her personal finances in such a way that it worked out quite well, and I don’t think she has to worry, but I’m sure if I knew the specifics about her job, I could identify several highly plausible circumstances where she has to live off her life savings, and would maybe qualify for a $200k/yr job afterwards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626658)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 9:12 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

When you can you get to a certain point in your career and work in an industry with hundreds if not thousands of companies that pay high comp, you have a lot of choices. I get recruited all the time by other firms. OP works in tech, that industry is never going away and will always pay high comp. there will always be choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42628040)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 9:36 PM
Author: Garnet Area

This is such a silly philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42628241)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 12:54 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

(John Edwards circa 2008)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42629328)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:21 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma

LJL. what a bunch of risk averse pussies. yes, he could lose his job from a false sexual harassment allegation, have to take a $600K paycut, the real estate market will simultaneously collapse and he won't be able to get back on his feet for years and be forced into bankruptcy.

planning your life around improbable scenarios like this is completely irrational. do you have to snort a line of xanax in the morning to manage your anxiety?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625860)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:30 PM
Author: fantasy-prone floppy headpube dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625916)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:34 PM
Author: Garnet Area

The real issue is that the risk doesn't result in some amazing reward. He just gets to live in what is a normal house anywhere else, just for 6x more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625946)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 2:39 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

I know you’re like a tough guy, being pumo and all, but the point is that risk is a great thing to take when the reward is great. If he’s selling a put on his life for some GC-induced fantasy of living the high life, then it’s not proper risk taking. Now, if he YOLO’s his life savings into SOL, he may be risking his life, but the upside is being worth 100s of millions

And you act like these things are rare beyond comprehension. I had a friend have this exact thing happen to him, and I don’t have that many friends, and he ended it with a bullet in head. Lawyers may think they’re invincible to it all, but that just because the four decade bull market run in shitlibery hasn’t really made y’all see what happens when the industry contracts. It can, and probably will. You think it’s going to be the same free-for-all in Texas, where all these companies will move?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42625962)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:01 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

Lol right, you know so many people making that type of money at all, let alone so many who got shitcanned from such jobs.

I know a lot of overleveraged people and buying a $3m house on close to a $1m HHI in one of the most desirable markets in the country where prices will never decrease more than ~20-25% in a market crash scenario when rates are at historical lows is as conservative as it comes. Never mind that he can currently get $6-7k/month rent on such a house, never mind in 10-15 years when rents will be $15k/mo and he will have a fixed 30 year thats the same or lower on a refi. Reliable appreciation in the long term in desirable RE markets is how you build wealth and also leave something to your kids on a low tax basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626460)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:05 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Knowing a lot of these people isn't rare, and if you work at a large place you'll see a lot of them come and go.

Also one of the highest tax locations with bad finances where companies are looking to flee. The politics are extremely left-wing so OP is going to see tax increases from fed, state and local governments all converge on his ass because he's the poster child for who they define as rich. Except that his "mansion" is a POS. It is just a dangerous place to be for so little benefit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626477)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:11 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

Knowing a lot of those people is rare and I almost never see people at a certain level going down in flames (unless they make some really bad decisions/mistakes). They don’t just get shitcanned due to reorg or something out of their control because they’re not considered replaceable.

Youre thinking like a poor person looking to save money and be a risk averse pussy when in reality things are highly unlikely to go sideways. When I think about shit going wrong in my life, it’s something like getting maimed or dying in a car accident (and I buy insurance for that), not the inability to make a certain base amount for the rest of my life that supports a certain lifestyle. People don go from making $700k to $100k. People aren’t insecure about their careers by this point.

At a certain NW and income level, you look for ways to build more wealth not just obsessively save money. Putting money into desirable real estate is no different than putting money into the stock market, except for your primary home you get the $500k tax free gains and the all important advantage of a 30 year fixed at still insane rates. The alternative is that he can just rent the same hovel for $8k/mo which will keep going up over time. Makes so much financial sense!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626517)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:13 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Or rent for $4.5k/month, save up and eventually find opportunities elsewhere. By the way, taxes + interest (even after deductions) will be higher than rent for a "good enough" place.

I don't understand the mentality involved in buying a $3m mediocre house in a sinking state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626528)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:18 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Nutella’s forecast for CA real estate is a pretty big thing she’s glossing over. She’s sorta hand waving the whole destruction of their legal system. The fleeing of their companies. Their impending water crisis. Their unresolvable pension crisis. Et cetera.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626558)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:22 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626582)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:30 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

CA sucks and I have plenty of issues with living here. Having extremely desirable housing in certain areas in the one constant in the long term. You can look at what happened in 08-09 and see what happened with prices. There is 0% chance that OP’s house is going to be worth less than what he paid in the long term. Prop 13 guarantees low supply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626640)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:34 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

He’s not in Malibu or Santa Monica. If the companies that have made South Bay what it is leave, his house is a worthless slum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626672)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:39 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

I’m no Bay Area expert but housing there is a lot more expensive than LA. my guess is that he got a 2000 square foot house on a 6-7000 lot in the equivalent of a Santa Monica neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626701)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 5:25 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Noooo. More like Northridge, but the Bay isn’t really comparable to SoCal because there’s very little draw beyond jobs. It’s not a playground for Saudi royals or celebrities. I mentioned Malibu because it will always be on the beach. Prince al-saqueed bin talib will always want a home there. The Bay doesn’t really have places like that. Maybe Mill Valley or Belvedere? But still no.

One thing it does have in common is like your area where there’s a massive difference between the hills and the flats. He’s down in the flats of an area that’s sort of purgatory between FAANG jobs and SF. The school is like the 20 best public in the Bay Area. So not terrible, but not good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626929)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:41 PM
Author: Garnet Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626714)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:26 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

Yes just find a $4500/mo 2br apt for your family of 4 in Redwood City instead!

You also ignore the fact that if you want to be in a good school district and avoid $50k/year private schools, you’re not going to be in a neighborhood with cheap rents or sales. Everything is priced in.

So yeah, just ignore reality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626618)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:41 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Yeah, I don't buy the concept that OP can't possibly live in less than a $3m house, regardless of stupid excuses.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/16500-Sanborn-Rd-Saratoga-CA-95070/19745262_zpid/

Yeah, that house needs $100k invested in it. Thats nothing when you consider the prices involved. Schools are nearly perfect (and a big reason people live in that area).

Here's a few rental options: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/13069-Jaccaranda-Ct-Saratoga-CA-95070/19655994_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/20790-4th-St-Saratoga-CA-95070/2070773314_zpid/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626711)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:20 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Which side are you on? A $3m house is consumption. If he were doing a $3m levered real estate deal, that would be different, but after costs, the house you live in (even levered), is not a good investment relative to stocks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626573)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:36 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

Except you need a place to live and rent realistically costs about 2/3 of his mortgage payment with no hedge against inflation and a mortgage gives you that and plenty of money leftover to invest in stock market. I’m on my 3rd property over the past 10 years and I can say it’s done better than the stock market. Maintenance on a 2000 square foot house isn’t much at all (separate from renovation costs).

If your thinking is “just buy a cheaper house” you’re basically saying that he should then spend $50k/year on private school for each kid in a shitty neighborhood. People buying in CA aren’t buying for the house itself, they’re just buying for the neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626689)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 4:44 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

You’ve lived in three homes for the past 10 years?

If you save $1.5m on a home, invest at 8%, that pays for private school.

I knew five people at HYPS from the bay from Prep/Branson/Harker, and one from public (Lowell). My impression is that even good school districts out there are like shit ones on the east coast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42626729)



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Date: June 14th, 2021 9:22 PM
Author: lime whorehouse boistinker

I’ve only sold one, a 2br condo. That one was my one financial regret in life since it’d be worth $850k now and I got it for $335k in 2011. Rent would be $4k/mo. one is jointly with my mom who needed my help and then there’s my primary home (has appreciated 80% since 2015). I’m looking to buy another property as a primary home (so we can have 2500 square feet) but never selling another property. Even things correct, it will be 20% correction back to 2019 prices.

You cannot find a livable home in reasonable commuting distance in LA county for $1.5m. With wfh ending and places being hybrid, you can’t live too far out. You need at least $2m, which is like my current home, which is a 1600 shithole that we renovated but is still old and small. more like $2.5m, you’ll get 2000 square feet. I imagine it’s even more inflated in the Bay Area. I don’t believe there will be such a mass exodus of entire industries from Bay Area which is what’s required for a total collapse. The value of LA is more tied to better weather and proximity to the beach and other rich lifestyle areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42628131)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 12:48 AM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Maybe you glossed over this part, but I was talking about primary residences—not income generating properties. OP isn’t collecting rent.

Aside from that, Zillow’s measure of real estate values shows Calabasas is up about 20% since 2015. If you’ve made 80%, it has nothing to do with “investing in real estate,” and everything to do with the fact that you either bought it for 30% under market value or you know a broker who can sell it for 40% over market value. Also, you paid taxes this whole time. You had maintenance. And you had to service a >3% mortgage, which, by the way, is 19% in interest. Any gains on property value were simply used to pay down the mortgage.

The S&P on the other hand is up 141% since 2015. So, no, you did not beat the S&P unless you’re the Sam fucking Zell of Calabasas. (My guess is you’re including the appreciation of the value of your house due to your renovation, but not including the cost of it, and you in fact have only gained a few percent if anything on your primary residence)

I agree though that LA is better than SF for RE stability. LA will at least always be a vacation destination of sorts.

P.S, I know sometimes I get mean and terse with you, but I enjoy our little spats. I get mad and go overboard sometimes (as do you), but in the end, life is better getting into spats with you than it is not. That said, I cannot guarantee I never call you a ‘cunt’ again, but know that there’s more love than hate from me to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42629303)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 7:30 AM
Author: laughsome locus affirmative action

dumb slantfaced cunt got BTFO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42629945)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 4:09 PM
Author: Onyx spot foreskin

Not really. I’m just having a discussion. She can be mistaken by some things and there ain’t nothing wrong with it. XO is here to intellectually ERICH us, bro. And maybe she’s about to drop some knowledge that helps us understand how she did what she did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42632490)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 5:47 PM
Author: Garnet Area

Honestly, I love these threads. I recently bought my first 7 fig property and felt like I was insane, even though I make close to the OP's income. The idea of paying 3x as much in a much higher tax/COL area made me feel sick but made me feel much better about my own choices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633028)



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Date: June 12th, 2021 12:55 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone jet dilemma

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42615836)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 12:37 AM
Author: Garnet Area

That isn't how high salaries work. Half of more of that is probably bonus, rsus, psus, etc. This is going to be a huge chunk of his normal monthly post-tax take-home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42619257)



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Date: June 13th, 2021 5:03 PM
Author: Impressive Cerebral Stage Pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42621929)



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Date: June 15th, 2021 6:31 PM
Author: soggy yellow theater stage

"People are seriously fretting that a guy who makes EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS can afford to pay $12 k a month on a house?"

OP doesn't make $800k. OP makes like $450k. Taxes, 401k, healthcare insurance (and bills) aren't optional. And when people make $800k that's usually "based on a normal year." Shitty year where bonuses get slashed? Suddenly OP is very nervous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42633287)



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Date: June 16th, 2021 11:10 AM
Author: Narrow-minded fishy toilet seat

credited. also nutella is vastly overstating how easily replaceable an 800K salary is. plenty of people end up losing those kind of jobs and having to take a huge pay cut. tight labor markets dont last forever either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#42636145)



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Date: June 17th, 2022 3:39 PM
Author: milky trust fund kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#44700333)



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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: Darsint

This worked out ok fwiw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#48116831)



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Date: September 21st, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4854797&forum_id=2#48116858)