They won't cuck to US interests the way the rest of E. Europe has. It also is a great excuse to justify absurd spending on MIC corruption. This is a weird case where we have no reason to hate our "enemy" here or like our "friend" here (the latter of which we're encouraging to basically die out).
You mean the country where the president that chose the opposite and was democratically elected got overthrown in a revolution we backed? And where the current president doesn't have elections at all? And where people aren't even allowed to leave the country?
Why do you keep repeating that as though that means anything? That's like noting that Washington DC didn't exist 500 years ago. Moscow isn't even the city that has been Russia's capital city for most of history. Under the Tsars it was St. Pete. Russia has much older cities like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veliky_Novgorod
I was really thinking that theoretically Poland and Hungary have arguably some interests in certain parts of Ukraine but that was obviously too detailed for this group.
Date: April 24th, 2024 5:17 PM Author: Olive nursing home
"Europe" is not a "homeland." It's a region filled with distinct regions, states and countries. For instance, Alcace Lorraine is a region that is sometimes France, sometimes Germany, but has nothing to do with a country like Latvia. Sometimes it's more clear than that, for instance Ukraine is a region of the country of Russia.
Date: April 24th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
also any of those regions have little to do with the United States of America. It would seemingly make more sense for America to secure our own borders and get Mexico to stop being such corrupt beaners and get Canada to stop being such limpwristed faggots rather than get involved in regional squabbles on the other side of the planet.
Date: April 25th, 2024 3:39 PM Author: Olive nursing home
No disagreement from me on any of that. While it may be that many (used to be most) Americans have a family tree that extends to Europe, also most Americans have no ties whatsoever to their distant relatives in Europe or even a solid grasp of what countries their families used to live in.
Date: April 25th, 2024 3:58 PM Author: Maniacal giraffe
"Date: April 24th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: Muscadine wine
"Europe" is not a "homeland." It's a region filled with distinct regions, states and countries. For instance, Alcace Lorraine is a region that is sometimes France, sometimes Germany, but has nothing to do with a country like Latvia. Sometimes it's more clear than that, for instance Ukraine is a region of the country of Russia."
Date: April 25th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: Maniacal giraffe
Yeah, I do appreciate you dropping the "neutral" pretense. You participate in these threads even though you hate the "spam". In fact, I think you have more poasts ITT than I do. I'll check.
edit: nope, I'm at 10 (incl this) you're only at 5.
Date: April 25th, 2024 4:25 PM Author: Olive nursing home
I haven't been posting very much. The board has been kind of slow lately and it's getting repetitive. Really, ever since IFNB threading stopped, I've lost interest.
However, stopping in to fuck with you and the other crazy who are always posting videos of poor people getting maimed and killed in Ukraine in awful ways is somewhat interesting.
As for being "neutral," I'm not. It's not that I care one way or the other what Slavic country controls the Ukraine, it's just I have a natural inclination to be against anything that Globohomo is for, and I am especially against fleecing US taxpayers for ridiculous bullshit like the Ukraine war.
Date: April 24th, 2024 4:55 PM Author: avocado metal tanning salon
They aren't our enemy or our ally. They are a strong country in Eurasia and should be left to conquer whatever they can there. Western europe and Chinese can combat them if they try to take over their land. But the US shouldnt have anything to do with it. Its absurd that we are funding this fight.
Date: April 24th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
no one cares you stupid asshole. everyone is just sick of this shit. go ahead and kill each other over who is more "mongol". leave normal people out of it.
Russia is more Asiatic but Ukraine is more Jewish, if XO wants to play that game. Ukraine is also more Turkic. Neither is particularly ethnically pure and both groups have a ton of various interbreeding with other groups historically.
I don’t know but there is something about the Russian psyche that irritates the American. Like that scene in Patton when Patton is forced to celebrate the fall of Germany with his Russian counterparts and it’s obvious he fucking hates them for no good reason.
Date: February 20th, 2025 9:35 AM Author: low-t cerebral abode laser beams
Russia is still bitter that they manned the Eastern Front for years with basically no relief until D-Day. And they don’t even get invited to the victory commemorations like the one in Normandy last year. Can’t say I blame them.
Date: April 24th, 2024 5:09 PM Author: Cracking old irish cottage
Perennial thorn in the side for centuries of otherwise unperturbed Anglo-Germanic hegemony. Trying to take Europe from us but they can't have it. Can't allow that.
Date: April 24th, 2024 5:11 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
Europe is going to be majority muslim soon enough anyways. why are we pissing away hundreds of billions there from the other side of the world? can't Europe defend itself for a change? what's so hard about that?
Date: April 24th, 2024 7:58 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
It’s not at all “americas backyard”. It’s an ocean away and culturally we have nothing in common with them. Mexico we actually share a border with that we are neglecting.
Date: April 24th, 2024 6:27 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
make no mistake, Russia is the antithesis of European/American Enlightenment and progress towards a free and democratic universal world order and security
Date: April 24th, 2024 6:32 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
espionage, sabotage, election interference, assassination, military aggression, and nuclear threat-- Russia is the mortal enemy of all free and democratic nations on the planet
Date: April 25th, 2024 9:02 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
any specific examples of any of this stuff besides the 2016 election nonsense which was already proven to be a jewish scam lie to subvert our democratic process and the will of our white christian majority nation?
Russia seems fine. they leave us alone and the pump a lot of oil which helps out the global economy in general.
Date: April 26th, 2024 9:04 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
seems like a Europe problem and that they haven't done anything to the United States of America. Maybe Europe should stop being babies and defend themselves for a change.
also didn't you stalk that batshit "box" chick? you seem like kind of an unhinged psycho and probably shouldn't be giving foreign policy advice.
Date: September 5th, 2024 9:51 PM Author: drab church
Makes me think of an old soviet joke. Before perestroika, our country was standing on the edge of a cliff. But now, we have taken one bold step forward.
The west is also in the process of taking one bold step forward...
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
by "US Industry" you mean the MIC? they can get fucked.
there's plenty of $ we can waste on US industry here. we don't need to piss it away because we prefer one group of russians over another and a bunch of jewish people are very upset yet again.
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: comical stead codepig
our MIC was actually very dilapidated when this war started, with a few exceptions. now we are rebuilding our ability to defend ourselves while defending our allies. and this is putting a lot of average Americans into good jobs
also the exports of LNG and such are a boon to the US. we took over a lot of Russia’s market share
again, anyone who thinks this war has been bad for America cuz zomg muh tax dollars is just a pro russian/Chinese fag
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
Ukraine is not our "ally" and we've spent trillions on our military over the past few decades. no one has attacked us and we just keep wasting money fighting wars for people who aren't us. and no, making energy more expensive and making inflation even worse is not good for the american people you stupid fuck. that's great you're fucking a ukranian but get fucking real for a change. this whole thing sucks and everyone here is feeling it.
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:35 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
spending trillions and fucking with global energy supply somehow won't cause inflation? even libs admit this crap is a big driver of inflation, which they call a "global issue".
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: comical stead codepig
russia is mostly in Asia and as any board russiacuck can tell you they see themselves as some separate standalone power that can take back land it deems theirs. and there’s zero chance that Ukraine will be enough for them, which means Poland joins the war even if alone, but then the Baltics would have to react. Moldova gets spooked so Romania has to step up somehow
this all very basic and obvious, but you refuse to see it for some weird reason. maybe it’s the squinted eyes
Date: April 25th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
what has Europe done for us lately? like anything in the last hundred years besides get thousands of Americans killed and trillions in military spending wasted because they can't defend themselves?
Date: April 25th, 2024 11:12 AM Author: comical stead codepig
for a long time the US preferred it that way. only now that China is getting aggressive do we realize that we need to share the burden, and belatedly Europe is actually starting to step up
but in any case us sending $20 billion more in old equipment is the best investment this country has made in a century or two
Date: August 1st, 2024 7:59 PM Author: Ungodly whorehouse
Americans are the descendants of the British, Dutch, Germans, and Scandinavians. Maybe we throw in Italy, Ireland and if we're feeling really generous, Poland. That's what Europe is to us.
The denizens of former Soviet republics on the edges of Europe have nothing to do with America whether or not they claim to be "European".
Date: August 6th, 2024 6:58 PM Author: drab church
It's a white, Christian, conservative country. Of COURSE they're our enemy. Ukrainians have trannies running their military for god's sake. We all know who our friends are.
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Date: November 19th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle copper sex offender
Also not a lib
Quite a bit throughout history. The way that the DoS and the intelligence community has provoked them during what could have been a period of rapprochement is shameful though
Date: November 19th, 2024 11:10 AM Author: Misanthropic onyx menage dragon
1. no respect for internationally recognized boundaries (ukraine, georgia, moldova). literally invaded a neighbor in EUROPE! it matters because without a response, it emboldens everyone else (including China) to engage in land grabs and destroy post-ww2 order.
2. the government is anti-democratic, corrupt, and supports rogue countries. The biggest arms traffickers for terrorists and rogue states are russians with deep connections to the kremlin. Even before the war, they gladly provided financial and material backing to venezuela, iran, north korea, cuba, and china.
3. they use oil and gas as a weapon against the west. Over the past 15 years they've shut off or curtailed gas shipments to europe to gain dominance in eastern europe.
4. they conduct intelligence operations in democratic countries aimed at backing anti-western political parties. Especially true in the old soviet republics where they are the direct financiers of anti-EU and anti-US parties but even in western europe and the US, they've engaged in similar lobbying.
5. It's one of the largest and most powerful autocratic governments on the planet. Its values are the antithesis of western values. Conflict is inevitable.
Date: November 19th, 2024 11:33 AM Author: Misanthropic onyx menage dragon
1. the world order is important. it's the basis for our status as the world's reserve currency and that certainly gives us a big economic boost.
2. supporting groups and rogue nations that are sworn enemies of the US and current world order seems like something you should care at least a little about
3. energy markets are international. it's important to counter Russia and OPEC. stable and cheap supply of energy is necessary for western economies, including the US.
4. Today it's trump, tomorrow it's some left-wing demagogue that you hate. their intervention in the politics of other countries needs to be countered. they don't get a say in our foreign policy (my frustration with israel stems from this; it's bad for policy when so many are in the tank for a country and honest discussion becomes impossible).
5. it's important. The US world order offers everyone an aspirational vision. It's important that we offer that vision, lest we allow autocrats to take the wheel. The thought of Xi and Putin (who can give two shits about human dignity and life) taking the wheel is depressing.
Date: November 19th, 2024 12:23 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
1. russia fighting other russians in their former soviet shithole fake countries isn't changing that
2. that's why I do not support democrats who actually have directly tried to ruin the United States and have openly admitted they hate the people who live here. Russia has not done anything to us from my view and you've yet to give an actual example to prove me wrong.
3. so maybe we should not encourage an energy producing nation to be in a prolonged war. let them run over ukraine and we can get back to having cheap gas.
4. Russia didn't actually do shit to influence our election or our govt. cumfarters like you who "flee communism" or "escape the holocaust" in order to come here to push your second world bullshit in a country whose people you hate are the actual threat.
5. you pee sitting down and fart cum from your asshole and you hate this country and the people who live here
Date: November 19th, 2024 11:23 AM Author: amethyst elastic band
so just to recap: Russia has never attacked us, supports the US political party that actually wants Americans to be prosperous, produces a lot of energy that allows stuff to be cheaper and allows the world to have a better standard of living, engages in territorial squabbles with despot shithole neighboring countries that have nothing to do with us, and they generally oppose an antiquated geopolitical org that uses the United States as a piggy bank?
Date: March 2nd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
March 2025. jewish midget dictator "president" of "ukraine" gets bitchslapped in the oval office on national TV. still no answer as to why Russia are the bad guys.
1. no respect for internationally recognized boundaries (ukraine, georgia, moldova). literally invaded a neighbor in EUROPE! it matters because without a response, it emboldens everyone else (including China) to engage in land grabs and destroy post-ww2 order.
2. the government is anti-democratic, corrupt, and supports rogue countries. The biggest arms traffickers for terrorists and rogue states are russians with deep connections to the kremlin. Even before the war, they gladly provided financial and material backing to venezuela, iran, north korea, cuba, and china.
3. they use oil and gas as a weapon against the west. Over the past 15 years they've shut off or curtailed gas shipments to europe to gain dominance in eastern europe.
4. they conduct intelligence operations in democratic countries aimed at backing anti-western political parties. Especially true in the old soviet republics where they are the direct financiers of anti-EU and anti-US parties but even in western europe and the US, they've engaged in similar lobbying.
5. It's one of the largest and most powerful autocratic governments on the planet. Its values are the antithesis of western values. Conflict is inevitable.
Date: June 9th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: amethyst elastic band
1. no one cares about russian suburbs like whatever the fuck "moldova" is and Europe as a whole can get fucked. The actual "West" (i.e. - America) is being invaded at our borders and our economy being decimated by China. that should be our top priorities
2. retarded rhetoric
3. sounds like a Europe problem and maybe people like Biden and Obama shouldn't have actively tried to shut down oil drilling here
4. The "West" = America. The "EU" has done more harm to America's interests than Russia ever has. they've been relying on us to fund their feudalism era bullshit for like 150 years now and everyone is sick of it. millions of americans have died protecting Europe, we've let in millions more escaping "pogroms" or whatever the fuck all because you people have shit cultures and can't stop killing each other. then you come here and act like you're our betters and shit all over Western/American culture.
5. They have not done shit to us. "Western values" only apply to stuff that matters to the actual West, which is America. Europe is a socialist open borders hellhole and it makes perfect sense Russia wants to take them over. China is the actual problem and threat and Russia is nothing more than a gas pump run by alcoholic retards who pose no threat to us. Conflict is completely avoidable and you pee sitting down and fart your nigger wife's bulls cum from your asshole.