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Anyone familiar with Hogan Lovells DC?
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Date: July 17th, 2023 7:33 PM Author: demanding odious alpha have a friend who is possibly going to lateral there, in the employment group. i honestly had no idea they had an employment practice.
is the firm full of mentally ill assholes? i mean, i know all firms are, but is this place bad by biglaw standards? |
Date: July 17th, 2023 7:46 PM Author: arousing slap-happy french chef voyeur If they have an employment practice they are TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#46558917) |
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Date: July 17th, 2023 8:00 PM Author: demanding odious alpha so skadden is TTT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#46558992) |
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Date: July 17th, 2023 8:01 PM Author: arousing slap-happy french chef voyeur Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#46558994) |
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Date: July 17th, 2023 8:02 PM Author: demanding odious alpha 180. what firms are not TTT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#46558998) |
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Date: July 17th, 2023 8:03 PM Author: Amber sweet tailpipe degenerate why don't good firms do employment? seems natural to have a dept to help out your big clients. cheaper to let mid law do it without any difference in quality? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#46559002) |
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Date: July 17th, 2023 8:06 PM Author: demanding odious alpha nearly all of them do, but the groups tend to be kind of small.
i was at a vault 60ish firm until last year. the L&E group there was around 70 people. at the less prestigious biglaw shithouses (like mine), the departments probably tend to be bigger.
30 years ago, i think the firms all had much larger L&E groups, but a good number of firms just keep around a few service partners and a lot of the work has gone to the littlers and jackson lewises of the world as biglaw rates have gone up and up.
that said, i just looked and skadden appears to have a pretty big L&E department.
it honestly doesn't make much sense to pay biglaw rates for most employment work. the high stakes, class action shit, sure.
i'm a labor lawyer. that's always made a bit more sense to me in biglaw than employment. there aren't that many of us around and we generally get away with charging higher rates than employment lolyers. |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 10:55 AM Author: demanding odious alpha i made this thread and it must have been flame. i can't remember anyone i know talking about going to hogan lovells. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697419) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 11:01 AM Author: Geriatric Preventive Strike interesting. do you still want answers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697429) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 11:12 AM Author: demanding odious alpha sure, why not.
the reason i bumped this thread was that i went to make a thread and the title of this thread auto populated. very strange.
anyway, what do you know? |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: Geriatric Preventive Strike I don't know about DC in particular but Hogan Lovells attorneys tend to be smug douchebag weirdos. Based on my familiarity with DC attorneys in general I'd surmise that they're even worse in that office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697801) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 12:08 PM Author: Onyx Hairraiser Business Firm Electric Furnace it's a good firm for DC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697569) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: demanding odious alpha explain the "for DC." except for wachtell, all the biglaw firms have an office in DC, probably fairly large ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697637) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 1:17 PM Author: Geriatric Preventive Strike I think he means as far as firms based in DC. Its US headquarters is in DC so it's not just some small satellite office of a BIGLAW firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697804) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 1:53 PM Author: demanding odious alpha i highly doubt any of the biglaw offices in DC are small satellite offices, brother. biglaw basically exists solely because of the administrative state, so all biglaw firms are gonna have a serious presence in the district. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697918) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 1:56 PM Author: tan razzmatazz location Cleary and Simpson are there
Not sure what they do
International Trade? |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 1:59 PM Author: demanding odious alpha what are you saying here? that cleary and simpson thatcher are the two biglaw firms that have offices in dc? pls help me understand your poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697941) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 3:49 PM Author: tan razzmatazz location you said all biglaw firms are going to have a "serious presence"
I'm curious what exactly is going on at the dc offices of all those firms
I think Cravath quietly opened a DC outpost consisting of one ex-SEC enforcement associate director and two junior associates focused on "securities law" from the corporate perspective |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 3:53 PM Author: demanding odious alpha i was at a v65 or so firm for several years, in the dc office.
i think all the practice groups were represented. so you know they're doing all that bullshit.
if you remove the administrative state that got installed post-depression, there would be no biglaw, so the DC offices are full of people doing all that bullshit. i dealt with the NLRB, others did IP bullshit, antitrust, etc etc etc. |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 4:44 AM Author: Onyx Hairraiser Business Firm Electric Furnace how many lawyers in your office? 30? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714701) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 7:39 AM Author: demanding odious alpha when i was there (i left in 2022), we had 175 lawyers in the DC office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714823) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 7:40 AM Author: Cracking knife temple they also have a former FTC commissioner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714826) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 4:43 AM Author: Onyx Hairraiser Business Firm Electric Furnace tons of firms (particularly v51-v200) have DC offices because they are "expected to". Usually no more than 5-25 lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714700) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 7:56 AM Author: demanding odious alpha skadden seems to have well over 100 in their DC office
Latham has 545 in their DC office (not sure how that can possibly be accurate, but i looked - there are many pages of lawyers in the DC office)
SullCrom has 66
davis polk has 56
kirkland has 305
moving way down the vault list, K&L gates has 144
vinson & elkins has 82
crowell & moring has 351 (again, this seems way high but whatever)
these are all the firms i looked at and none of them had 5-25 lawyers in their DC office, what are you on about?
i think when you get outside of the v100, you have firms that look at themselves as "biglaw" that have an "office" in DC that consists of a guy in his house, or 7 attorneys or whatever, but those are not biglaw firms. davis polk had the smallest number of the firms above, but even then, 56 attorneys isn't a "tiny satellite office." |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: tantric exhilarant gunner I haven’t heard that name in a long time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47697577) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 5:34 AM Author: brilliant nudist yarmulke I have a friend who did lit there; I don’t think he liked it very much but he got a cool govt job after (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714720) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 6:12 AM Author: obsidian motley forum international law enforcement agency it does seem to be a revolving door for big gov. John Roberts was a partner there |
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Date: June 4th, 2024 10:06 AM Author: demanding odious alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47718892) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2024 7:43 AM Author: Cracking knife temple main context i've seen them in is repping satellite companies. they're one of the larger, more active biglaw groups in that area, together with cooley and latham. otherwise, the business tends to be boutiquey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5374291&forum_id=2#47714828) |