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An actual Iran INVASION is highly unlikely - would take 500K troops or so
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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:25 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station an actual ground invasion of iran would be a major national project that would probably have to accept the loss of a few dozen planes along with several ships either sunk or damaged, and probably c. 3-4K deaths just to secure the coastline and the coastal missile sites.
there is no national will for something like this, and thus, it probably won't happen. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 5:52 PM Author: histrionic effete den mental disorder what if trump won again tho, and didn't have to GAF about national will? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239884) |
Date: May 15th, 2019 5:54 PM Author: racy avocado step-uncle's house fat ankles The fact this is even being discussed is insanity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239888) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:03 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station i doubt it's actually being SERIOUSLY discussed. the more you look at the actual geography and geopolitics of the region, the worse of an idea it becomes. the military knows this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239918) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:05 PM Author: racy avocado step-uncle's house fat ankles And we need to be drastically cutting the Army in favor of naval and aerospace spending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239928) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:09 PM Author: Lilac costumed forum (sailor) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239953) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:27 PM Author: Excitant claret potus Semen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241037) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:07 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen Military wants some kind of revenge for all the IEDs used in Iraq supplied by Iran (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239943) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:09 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station by quintupling the number of its forces that will be maimed by such devices? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239951) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:12 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen But if the Iranians responsible are obliterated, military comes out as the top dog again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239962) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:14 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station it is widely acknowledged that the iraq and afghanistan war made the US military weaker in various important ways. iran would take those trends and accelerate them, especially since our national debt is already over 100% of GDP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239970) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen the top dog can't let the disrespect of hundreds of its soldiers getting killed by Iran IEDs go unanswered, national debt be damned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239986) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:06 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen What if missile salvo from Iran destroys a lot of oil tankers?
What if the US troops in Syria and Iraq are attacked by proxies? |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:08 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station it's built into the war calculations, i would presume. an actual serious war with iran would probably lead to collateral wars in lebanon, iraq, and parts of syria. soft targets like gulf shipping and eastern saudi pipelines/oil facilities would get smashed up.
on the upside, $250/barrel oil benefits the remaining oil producers, including the US, canada, russia, etc. it will also clear up a lot of unnecessary traffic on american roads, making driving more pleasant. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:11 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen What about the recession? Ground troops necessary to fight on the frontline? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239960) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:13 PM Author: Multi-colored mint church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239964) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: exciting roast beef A ground war with Iran would be a bigger undertaking than our invasion of Europe in WW2. Staging units and getting then into Iran en masse would be incredibly difficult, especially since I assume Turkey and KSA would laugh in our faces at the thought of supporting this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239985) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:18 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen KSA is a big supporter of war on Iran.
Does every scenario call for an invasion of Iran to reach Tehran?
Are there limited scenarios in which thousands of ground troops would need to do fighting? |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: exciting roast beef My gut says no to any limited action on Iranian soil. I don't see how it would not escalate to a full blown ground war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240018) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:22 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen What about fighting against proxies in Syria and Iraq? What about reinforcements to Syria and Iraq? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240037) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:25 PM Author: exciting roast beef We've been fight against Iranian proxies in Syria, Afg, and Iraq for years now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240058) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:28 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen What if the attacks become 10x more intense after the bombing of Iran? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240077) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:31 PM Author: exciting roast beef I'm ok with depleting our cruise missile inventory one at a time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240094) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:34 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen The 3k troops in Syria can be defended by cruise missiles? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240109) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:35 PM Author: exciting roast beef Selected targets within Iran. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240120) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:36 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen How does that stop the proxy attacks in Syria after the bombing has already started? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240128) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station i've seen speculation that most staging would be done from iraq and from the south - ie, via carrier groups in the gulf/indian ocean. there would probably need to be about 6 carrier groups involved to provide overlapping dense anti-missile coverage for each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240020) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:24 PM Author: exciting roast beef At any given time we have at max 4 carrier groups available for deployment. The rest are in some form of maintenance or yard status. Getting half our CVN force ready for deployment would be a huge undertaking in itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240050) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:32 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station it would be a major national project. as i recall, Iraq II had 4 carrier groups in theater at the time of the actual assault. iran would definitely need a couple more. there would also need to be a reconfiguration of the rotation/maintenance schedules in order to have other carrier groups ready to relieve each other.
we'd probably be looking at half-a-trillion dollars in short-term expenses even if everything goes shockingly well. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:17 PM Author: Vibrant School We’d bomb them to smithereens and waltz in noob (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38239993) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:25 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station aerial bombing is good at taking out large fixed defensive positions and highly-visible targets like tanks and vehicles. the problem with iran is that its terrain is a goddamned mess:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Iran_Topography.png
compare that to the vast flatlands of iraq.
iran has an unknown number of small, portable anti-armor weapons like the russian kornet, which means that US vehicle/tank movements into iran are going to get lit up for a while by small, mobile groups of assailants using the mountains for coverage. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 6:38 PM Author: Concupiscible sexy boltzmann Iran would make Iraq look like a picnic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38240138) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:26 PM Author: shivering translucent internal respiration Other way around. There aren’t countless crazy Sunnis and Arabs milling about in Iran.
Unless the Iranian regime has some crazy amazing guerilla force prepared to strike (which the CIA hasn’t sniffed out). The Iranian regime is really lame though so I doubt they have some strategic grand plan. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:33 PM Author: supple national A majority of Iraqis were glad to see Saddam gone.
I have a hard time believing a majority of Iranians would support the toppling of the regime there. |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:36 PM Author: shivering translucent internal respiration I’m not saying that. I’m saying the us military and intel apparatus would destroy whatever resistance Iran put up, and presumably would not stupidly let a post invasion guerilla war pwn them like in Iraq. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241102) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:43 PM Author: Ruddy Legend Station the "whatever resistance" would consist of things like small cells armed with anti-tank weapons hiding in the hills. this would not be that easy to simply "destroy." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241145) |
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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:18 AM Author: Concupiscible sexy boltzmann There was no resistance in Iraq II. It did not exist. In Iran our casualties will be x5 at least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242202) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:34 PM Author: Milky Odious Macaca (Donald Rumsfeld) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241084) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:45 PM Author: jade floppy ape liquid oxygen sounds like a greeted as liberators strategy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241157) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:22 PM Author: shivering translucent internal respiration We're not invading lmao. We might bomb them into oblivion though. They still have 50 year old planes in the air. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241006) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:27 PM Author: underhanded area *manufactures 9/11 attack* Heh |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:30 PM Author: godawful base psychic trump is too cheap for the price tag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241058) |
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Date: May 15th, 2019 9:41 PM Author: curious roommate HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38241130) |
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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:31 AM Author: orchid temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242220) |
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Date: May 16th, 2019 3:36 AM Author: fluffy telephone mad cow disease No need to invade just bomb the fuck out of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242234) |
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Date: May 16th, 2019 5:32 AM Author: Ivory passionate water buffalo range They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242364) |
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Date: May 16th, 2019 5:45 AM Author: Flushed Haunting Public Bath Prole "We'll be welcomed as LIBERATORS! It will pay for itself!" (xoxo2003 Reptile) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4262353&forum_id=2#38242389) |