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10yr Bond investing?
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Date: October 1st, 2026 9:18 AM Author: concupiscible mexican Seems ief shouldn't drop any more as further rate increase affects mortgage rates. So it's much safer than longer term tlt. But it is only yielding 4% now, not 5... I get 12% in strc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50163980) |
Date: October 1st, 2026 9:32 AM Author: animeboi (.) The 'yield' you are looking at is probably the TTM yield, FWD yield should be much higher.
(also LOL at STRC). |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 10:19 AM Author: concupiscible mexican Recent dividends are .3/month without any raise. It comes out to 4%. Strc is clearly better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50164061) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 10:22 AM Author: animeboi (.) latest div $0.332 x 12 / $88.75 = 4.49% and it will rise as IEF rotates into newer bonds. And you're comparing one of the safetest asset classes to what is essentially a junk bond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50164069) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 3:28 PM Author: concupiscible mexican Thoughts on Google 6.2% bonds? If I buy one at 94 it says it yields 6.5%. Does it mean it will pay me monthly? Either way 6.5% is kinda low.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50164846) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 3:38 PM Author: animeboi (.) check out OZKAP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50164892) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 4:29 PM Author: brass senate gay wizard You’re looking at the Coupon, n00b. YTM tells you the effective yield as derived from the discount (or premium) on the Bond principal.
Fuckin’ amateurs. |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 4:31 PM Author: concupiscible mexican Latest ief dividend is .30. That comes out to 4%. Inflation is higher.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165011) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 5:26 PM Author: brass senate gay wizard That’s a Fund that’s Shackled with old stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165155) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 4:32 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape weird cuz its yielding 5.3% tax free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165015) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 4:36 PM Author: animeboi (.) *state tax free (unless in a retiremnt account) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165022) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 4:57 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape no fed income tax on it.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165090) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 5:00 PM Author: animeboi (.) you absolutely pay fed taxes on treasuries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165099) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 6:04 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape jfc how did i get that confused.
to be fair, i didnt pay fed income tax last year |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 6:12 PM Author: brass senate gay wizard Muni bonds are tax free iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165240) |
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Date: October 1st, 2026 6:26 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape i didnt even have income tax last year so everything was tax free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50165279) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 12:03 PM Author: concupiscible mexican So if I wanted to get the current 10yr yield, ief doesn't do it, because they're still invested in old treasuries and only yield 4%. The only way ief yields 5% is if its principle drops further as rates go up to 6%, otherwise it is several years behind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50166868) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 12:15 PM Author: slap-happy harsh kitty native Bond funds are universally SHIT my friend. But also you shouldn't buy 10 year bonds directly. If you want good bond yield fastly while not fucking yourself too bad later, just go to treasurydirect and every 6 weeks buy a new 6 month TSY in equal chunks. While waiting to buy new chunks, buy and roll 4 week TSYs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50166899) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:16 PM Author: concupiscible mexican I don't want to hold longterm, and treasurydirect you cannot sell... IEF currently doesn't yield much more than sgov and I can sell sgov any momemnt.. ief seems an inferior product compared to Google bond (6.5%) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167046) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:25 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow) bonds are fore bores-- just keep your cash ready for huge market drop in less than a year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167066) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:32 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape (me since 2022 as the market is up 60%)
to be fair, i did deploy about 25% of my cash during the April 2024 tariff thing so that helps juice my short term return since then, but im still largely cash so im basically matched the market for 2 years and still missed out on 50% more returns :( |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:35 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow) not just the American but world consumer is plumb tuckered out by high inflation and energy/food/education/cost of living-- collapse is imminent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167083) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:46 PM Author: Drunken Bisexual Range Ape chatgpt: For much of roughly 2000–2020, the world generated an unusually large amount of savings relative to the amount of attractive investment demanding that money. Bernanke's original savings-glut argument focused heavily on excess savings from emerging economies—particularly Asia—and oil exporters flowing into developed-country financial assets. That increased the supply of capital and pushed equilibrium real interest rates downward.
Governments aren't saving anymore. They're competing aggressively for capital. The IMF estimates global public debt was just under 94% of GDP in 2025 and could reach 100% by 2029. Defense, aging populations/social spending, strategic industrial policy and rising interest expense are all increasing financing requirements. The supply of savings relative to the rapidly increasing demand for capital has become considerably less abundant.
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 7:45 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow) my experience from Flanders to Fiji to Philadelphia tells me families are struggling big time against forces they don't comprehend and can hardly withstand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167656) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 7:47 PM Author: Brilliant love of her life you mean sell puts and get paid to wait, n00b (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167661) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 7:50 PM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow) yes, options trading is the minimum standard for algo trades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167668) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:46 PM Author: greedy irradiated national useless brakes Trump’s out of control inflation will eat up your returns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167116) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 1:53 PM Author: Indigo step-uncle's house If you're not DCAing VT ur ngmi sorry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167132) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 5:20 PM Author: concupiscible mexican Is 6.5% Corp bond yield a good idea? Also if it is well below par, i.e. longterm goog or amzn at 2% then most of the profit would be cap gains instead of ordinary tax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167426) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 5:22 PM Author: Nighttime Embarrassed To The Bone Principal's Office just invest in SCHD you retarded bald goblin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167433) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2026 5:26 PM Author: Nighttime Embarrassed To The Bone Principal's Office you an old bald goblin who can't figure out how bonds or TQQQ work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5908288&forum_id=2#50167449) |
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