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How many months would you need to write a 2-hour musical?
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Date: August 21st, 2024 6:34 PM Author: contagious house doctorate it has to be a serious production. you can't just do some postmodern thing where you stand on stage with a zither and lazily fiddle with it for a couple hours. you need a plot, 85% of your runtime has to be actual musical numbers, it needs to be staged for an ensemble cast, etc. it also has to be an original production. no remakes, and nothing done previously, though you can loosely 'adapt' a public domain text if it helps, and if your adaptation is the very first.
assuming you have a big guaranteed payout on delivery, how long would it take you to deliver? |
Date: August 21st, 2024 6:35 PM Author: copper roast beef Probably like 2 years Full time like 60 hrs a week no vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991058) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:00 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991152) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 6:37 PM Author: Soggy big-titted locale son of senegal am I allowed to have someone else do the music and just stick to lyrics and plot? If so, I think I could produce something in two months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991065) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 6:46 PM Author: contagious house doctorate no. if you don't know how to write music, you'll have to learn it and add that to the production time. it's all on you. you're an impresario/auteur in this scenario. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991103) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:00 PM Author: Soggy big-titted locale son of senegal hmmm, with liberal stealing I could probably get away with not learning much, but that would add a few months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991151) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:05 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation What about an arranger? Could you just write a piano-vocal score for the melody & harmonies and then pass it off to an arranger to score out the full conductor score? If not, where do we draw the line? Would you also have to mix & record it yourself, too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991173) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:07 PM Author: copper roast beef I think the hypo is you gotta do all of it. 2 years might not be enough for me. I assume I can hire tutors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991178) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:08 PM Author: contagious house doctorate you are responsible for producing a script and score which can immediately be handed off to professional singers/musicians and done as an original cast recording. it's not required that you use full orchestration, though if you do, you will have to decide how to arrange it. if you want your woodwinds section to do stuff during some particular part of a song, then you have to tell them to do so. otherwise, it won't be done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991180) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:12 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria To be fair,
This is retarded and gay because you’re an idiot who doesn't actually know anything about this subject and as a result you're setting a much higher bar than actual professional musical theater writers operate under. Very few if any of them actually orchestrate their own shit (and that’s been true from the beginning of Broadway), let alone conduct the pit orchestra themselves or whatever. At most they’ll write the lyrics and a very simple “melody + chords” piano arrangement of the tunes, and some of the most famous Broadway "auteurs" in history — Irving Berlin for example — literally never even learned how to notate music, he would just plunk out the tunes on his piano (PS he was so lazy that he lived to be 101 yet he only ever learned to play in one key) and then make his assistants transcribe the whole thing and also go ahead and arrange + orchestrate it. George Gershwin is another example, he wasn't even capable of orchestrating "Rhapsody In Blue" when he first composed it so he only wrote the parts out for two pianos and then he brought in another guy to craft an orchestral arrangement. So it turns out that two of the most famous and successful musical writers of the 20th Century would have failed your hypo. Whoops! Oh well, I guess they didn't have what it takes to make it on Broadway -- at least according to a Pumo on XO.
You think Matt Stone and Trey Parker know how to write out a full orchestral score? What are the odds either of them can even fluently read musical notation? They're both obscenely rich comedians who live awesome lives filled with fun shit to do... you really think they’re wasting a ton of their time sitting in some stuffy windowless recording studio next to a bunch of autistic hardcore music nerds being like “OK, so here at Bar 202 we need the bassoons to double the strings through the end of the bridge, and then over at Bar 306 we need the flutes to come in and…”? LJL what's the max IQ to think that's how things actually work in Broadway/Hollywood, maybe ~85? You naive retard.
But anyway, if you’re gonna be a little faggot about setting the parameters of this hypo that you're obviously totally unqualified to even be discussing in the first place, you might as well go all the way and stipulate that we also have to learn how to physically construct all of the orchestral instruments and then hand craft them ourselves... as well as learn how to single-handedly design and build an architecturally-sound theater, etc etc etc... after all, we’re “impresarios” now!!!!11 |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:13 PM Author: copper roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991197) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:13 PM Author: Soggy big-titted locale son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991198) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:14 PM Author: Outnumbered resort oooooohhhh shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991200) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:18 PM Author: Mind-boggling lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991216) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:22 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation Don't stop there. If you're required to create vocal & orchestral scores, you'd also be required to choreograph the musical, design the sets, costumes, lighting cues, etc.
It's literally insane to contemplate and there are Tony awards for each of these distinct arts. |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:24 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria To be fair,
“How long would it take you to code and scale up a successful swipe app? Also to be clear you first have to recreate the Internet and reengineer smartphones from scratch, you know just like real app developers do, trust me I’m a Pumo I know how these things work.” |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 10:05 PM Author: mauve vivacious famous landscape painting theatre wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991888) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2024 4:21 AM Author: Fuchsia address Damn daddy. Mafoofan-tier devastation.
Give this pumo a double-stitched vegetable-tanned shinebox and send him on his way. |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:16 PM Author: Cocky histrionic sanctuary athletic conference 18 months working full time. I've been in musicals in HS, college, and for the local bar association (not flame). I've played music and sang my whole life and know basic music theory and composition. If i really got going i bet i could do it in under a year. I'm mostly giving myself time to be a perfectionist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991207) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:17 PM Author: copper roast beef 2 years 60 hrs a week would get me a respectable performance. Not great but acceptable. Decent. As George costanza would say. And there would be some cramming at the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991212) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:25 PM Author: Cocky histrionic sanctuary athletic conference Bear in mind the hypo asked to "write" a musical, not direct/produce one. No need to put on a "performance," if that's what you meant. Producing a respectable script and a score, i.e., the papers, would take me max 18 months which tbf is building in a lot of writer's block (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991248) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:25 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991251) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:33 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation When people say "write a musical," I'm assuming they only mean the book. That's basically the script of spoken dialog + the story structure. Even fully sung musicals will have books. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991282) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:17 PM Author: Primrose Adventurous Site Therapy If I can make it a punk musical and just write for a three piece with tablature and quality is not important I can do it in a weekend. Eg a musical about the life of Henry Rollins I could write the entire play and all the lyrics within 24 hours it would pretty much pour right out of me. If I wanted to make it good I would need a bit more time to add all my little stupid references and in jokes in the music and lyrics, so for that I would need like two weeks or so.
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:18 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation RATE this idea for a musical, care of ChatGPT:
"Atlantis" tells the story of Maya, a determined marine biologist, whose obsession with proving the existence of Atlantis leads her on a dangerous expedition. Swept overboard during a storm, she awakens to find herself in a hidden, underwater city—Atlantis. However, this Atlantis is far from the utopian paradise of legend. The city is a dystopian society, divided between the opulent upper city, where the wealthy elite live in luxury, and the struggling lower city, where workers maintain the failing infrastructure. Maya is taken prisoner by Prince Nael, a charming but disillusioned royal who is initially skeptical of her presence. Despite their differences, Maya's knowledge proves valuable as mysterious power surges threaten the city’s stability.
As Maya works with Soren, an idealistic engineer from the lower city, they uncover a shocking truth: the power core that sustains Atlantis is failing, putting the entire city at risk of destruction. Soren dreams of revolution to dismantle the corrupt aristocracy, while Nael wrestles with his loyalty to his family and his growing attraction to Maya. As Nael introduces Maya to the secrets of Atlantis and the city's strict social hierarchy, they begin to fall in love, even as the political and environmental crises mount. The queen, Nael's mother, embodies the city's refusal to change, pushing back against the growing threat of rebellion.
In a climactic showdown, Soren leads a rebellion to seize control of the power core, while Nael must choose between siding with his family or joining Maya and Soren in their fight to save the city. As Atlantis teeters on the brink of collapse, Nael sacrifices himself to shut down the failing core, ensuring the city's survival but sealing his fate. With Atlantis sinking beneath the waves, Maya and Soren lead the surviving citizens to the surface, vowing to share the true story of the fallen city with the world—not as a utopia, but as a cautionary tale of hubris, class division, and environmental decay. Their bittersweet victory leaves them united in hope for a better future. |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:22 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria To be fair,
Literally better than 95% of musicals composed in the last 20 years. |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:25 PM Author: Mind-boggling lay ChatGPT scraping AO3 was exemplary minmaxing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991250) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:26 PM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation What are your thoughts on Hamilton? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991256) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:27 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria To be fair,
Same analysis, which is an even more damning indictment of 95% of musicals composed in the last 20 years IMO |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:26 PM Author: Cocky histrionic sanctuary athletic conference It's passable but uninspired just like all AI slop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991258) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:27 PM Author: Multi-colored knife school cafeteria To be fair,
Now do “the bottom 95% of musicals composed in the last 20 years” |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:41 PM Author: copper roast beef Much like poetry although poetry alone would be easier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991309) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:19 PM Author: Mind-boggling lay One of the gayer XO hypos in recent memory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991221) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:22 PM Author: chestnut newt university I couldn't do it, ever. No amount of time would be sufficient. I could be given immortality elixer, and I will still never be able to produce a musical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991231) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:29 PM Author: copper roast beef Eh. Even Shakespeare could benefit from some pretty obvious scene rearrangements. Lower your standards a bit just like real artists must do before they can make anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991270) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:29 PM Author: Flushed field Could not do this. But i could produce an excellent documentary on why kikes should be gassed in about 2 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991271) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:35 PM Author: confused mustard area 3 months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991294) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:36 PM Author: sienna dog poop haunted graveyard A rock opera wouldn’t take that long if you were a musician. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991296) |
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Date: August 21st, 2024 7:49 PM Author: Navy Bearded Patrolman Dilemma No musical in history is 85% runtime music (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47991324) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2024 5:12 AM Author: glittery tanning salon mediation Most actually are. You're forgetting about the incidental music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47992663) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2024 3:44 AM Author: Nighttime hell A few days. Just hum random stuff during the day and make the lyrics whatever you're doing or saying to people. It's easy as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47992617) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2024 4:17 AM Author: Ruddy antidepressant drug church Just give me some DBG material to go off of and I'd pen a Broadway hit celebrating UES yenta culture the likes of which have nevah been seen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5580454&forum_id=2#47992630) |