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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:08 AM Author: wonderful bat shit crazy stag film Stats:
UG GPA: 3.81 LSAT: 173 white guy
26 years old, top-25 private UG, MA in a BS field that won't get me a job + 3 years of solid WE in a field that isn't going to lead anywhere I want to go. Average recs.
I know the economy is shit, but do I have a shot at an unemployment-proof school? (HYS?) Or if at CCN, can I age-pwn all the 22 year olds who never learned how to study? I usually do pretty well in classes. My GPA in college would have been 3.9 except that I got a 3.0 one semester after a death in my immediate family approximately 3 weeks before exams (like a stupid shit, I just went to the funeral, came back to school and took my exams instead of going to the dean and asking for an extension or whatever). Also, when applying, do I explain the 3.0 semester, or does it just make me sound like a whiner? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:14 AM Author: Vibrant Mischievous Coldplay Fan Place Of Business how did you manage less than a 3.98 studying humanities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320229) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:26 PM Author: wonderful bat shit crazy stag film I went to a real school without grade inflation. My 3.81 was summa + phi beta kappa, top 5% of class. But actually, my degree was in econ. I just decided to go to grad school in something worthless instead of to do consulting, and I think it's now too late to cash in on the econ degree given that I've done nothing with it for the last 4 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320821) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:31 PM Author: Razzmatazz Ivory National lol i guess hes like 99% of people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322135) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:57 AM Author: orange famous landscape painting dont explain the 3.0 semester. youll sound like a bitch.
i dunno man; law really REALLY sucks. like, it's awful, awful bitchwork of the worst kind. and to be forced to go 180k into debt for the honor of working at some sweatshop in nyc.... let's just say i wish i had listened to the sage counsel of xoers who 3 years ago told me NOT to do this. but here i am 2 months from graduation and dreading the future even though i have biglaw lined up. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:58 AM Author: bespoke twisted rigpig I don't think there are too many people at CCN who never learned how to study. cept maybe a few of the minorities. knowwutimsayin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320459) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:35 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320858) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:50 PM Author: wonderful bat shit crazy stag film Are you socially retarded? How many above-medians do you know with no big law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320980) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:55 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14321034) |
Date: March 7th, 2010 10:49 AM Author: Startled National Security Agency you'll get ccn but have 220k to pay off. enjoy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320433) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:55 AM Author: Sinister Histrionic Hall Round Eye titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320452) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:37 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon honestly it works out to even more. if you truly have absolutely no savings/help from parents at all and no grants, it works out to well over 250k at cls and nyu, regardless of what the schools say about cost (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320872) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:42 PM Author: Grizzly School New Version Explain this please?
How much do you spend on living expenses in NYC, 25K per year??? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:43 PM Author: Floppy Jap lots of people spend that on rent alone (edit: or much more). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322246) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:09 AM Author: Aggressive death wish Apply, see where you get money, come back and repost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320500) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:31 PM Author: Floppy Jap where do you want to live where you're older? take $$$$ at a place like BU, graduate debt free, work at Ropes & Gray or Goodwin or that place Denny Crane works for a couple of years and live happily ever after.
P.S. this is the most credited advice you will receive if you want to be a lawyer. ignore it at your peril. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:38 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon You don't even go to law school dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320878) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:40 PM Author: Floppy Jap Why would I go to law school when I already graduated and work in biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320889) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:42 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon going to BU doesn't come close to guaranteeing anything, even if you pwn the curve. don't you know how fucked up recruiting is right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320908) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:45 PM Author: Floppy Jap Of course it doesn't guarantee anything. The point is OP can go there for free and it doesn't matter if he gets biglaw. Hint: getting biglaw doesn't guarantee anything either. Do you know how many people have been fired from my firm who still have tons of debt left?
edit: my poast above does look like i'm saying he'll get biglaw. i'm saying he has as much of a shot there as anywhere and he won't hhave the debt. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: multi-colored primrose set quadroon well in that case he also needs to ask himself whether he's willing to work at a small firm or as a solo, because that's where he would probably end up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320957) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: Floppy Jap true. but fired biglaw associates will likely end up the same way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320974) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:37 PM Author: Cream Zombie-like Site yes, go to law school, but take a full scholarship at a t20 or t25.
do not rack up $200k+ for anything other than hys. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:41 PM Author: exciting self-absorbed keepsake machete doctorate I wouldn't even rack up money there. The debt sucks that much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320900) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:45 PM Author: Cream Zombie-like Site $200k debt out of hys isn't bad unless you're totally unmotivated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320939) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: exciting self-absorbed keepsake machete doctorate If you go into biglaw, you're making the same regardless of where you went to school. You're essentially locking yourself into biglaw for at least 5 years. With his stats, he can get a full ride or close to it to a good school where he'll still have a chance at biglaw but with more flexibility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320975) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:50 PM Author: Cream Zombie-like Site i'm thinking about more than just biglaw. there are many options outside of law available to hys jds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320983) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:52 PM Author: Floppy Jap 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14321004) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:54 PM Author: exciting self-absorbed keepsake machete doctorate I have to admit I'm not familiar with those options. Are you talking about things like consulting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14321021) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:56 PM Author: Floppy Jap yeah man. McKinsey is a revolving door for people who didn't get biglaw out of HYS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14321042) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 4:58 PM Author: fuchsia vengeful pocket flask really? HYS law school have a great chance at McKinsey? that is interesting news to me. how would the chance compare to top b-schools? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14323710) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:51 PM Author: Floppy Jap lol @ locking yourself into biglaw -- most people will be fired long before then (maybe not by the time he graduates). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14320999) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:53 PM Author: exciting self-absorbed keepsake machete doctorate Right. And then you'll be stuck with a debt load where only biglaw will allow you to live comfortably (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14321016) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 4:59 PM Author: fragrant confused brunch LOL those stats won't get you a full scholarship at a T25, it'll hardly get you $30K at WUSTL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14323725) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:52 PM Author: wonderful bat shit crazy stag film What about retaking LSAT? I didn't study because I took two practice exams (timed) and got 177 and 178. Was sick the day of the actual exam (fever of 102) and probably should not have gone.
Worth retaking if I can get 177+? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:32 PM Author: frum box office Of course, everyone should. A law degree is a good thing to have and you aren't excluded from any careers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322140) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:34 PM Author: Bearded sable rehab The question is whether a law degree leads "anywhere you want to go," i.e. do you want to be a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322167) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:37 PM Author: aphrodisiac candlestick maker philosopher-king My guess is those 22y/o "who have never learned how to study" - know how to study better than a 26 year old who hasnt been to class in 4 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322189) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:38 PM Author: Bearded sable rehab Trying to think through shit like this is a waste of time and misleading anyway. I had "never learned to study" AND was out a long time before going to LS. Still pwned the shit out of my first year classes. It doesn't really take very long to "learn how to study" if the pressure is on and you want to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322200) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:22 PM Author: henna drunken home people who are hurt If you have to ask... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14322578) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:40 PM Author: angry beta nowag theater stage The answer is No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14324205) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:41 PM Author: judgmental international law enforcement agency what choice do you have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243532&forum_id=2#14324220) |