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Bitcoin down to 97k. How low does it go??

Looks like it’s time to grab some more
.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/02/25
$0 is what it's "worth"
Young and fresh Bboooooooooom
  02/02/25
i got my firm payout and it turns out $46k of it automatical...
COMES NOW me in ur mom
  02/02/25
You should wait until the end of the week at least. The mark...
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  02/02/25
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.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/02/25
Whenever anyone says that, EOW is higher
Oh, You Travel?
  02/02/25
How is this different from tqqq? Tqqq can also drop 10% in 1...
,.,,,.
  02/02/25
$20
animeboi
  02/02/25
Sub 50 for sure, maybe 30.
Diane Rehm talking dirty
  02/02/25
It's 50/50 it either goes to 0 or 1 million
chad gundam
  02/02/25
***CHAIN OF THOUGHT*** Investigating crypto correlations ...
roast beef mafia
  02/02/25
CIA will just print more tether to prop it up, if necessary
....,,,.....,,,,....,
  02/02/25
do people actually use that shit for anything? wasnt it like...
Prolemobiler
  02/02/25
I tried to buy something with bitcoin recently and it took a...
cowgolf
  02/02/25
Can just grab a crypto debit or credit card. They let you pa...
.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/02/25
it's basically digital gold. more of a speculative digital s...
....,,,.....,,,,....,
  02/02/25
i get the speculation aspect of it same as gold, but lets be...
Prolemobiler
  02/02/25
There is a coffee shop near my hotel in dubai marina that su...
,.,,,.
  02/02/25
Intrinsic value is zero so it can’t fall below that
Wife shaving her vagina before a business trip
  02/02/25
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sealclubber
  02/02/25
Rock solid support at 97k
Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire
  02/02/25
we now at 93k
....,,,.....,,,,....,
  02/02/25
Should we buy more now?
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  02/02/25
I’d wait til at least end of week. Hopefully drops bac...
.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/02/25
How is this different from s&p dropping to 5900 on Monda...
,.,,,.
  02/02/25
If you’re a bitcoin maxi then you prob believe BTC wil...
.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/02/25
At 100k it's already closer to 1mil then to 10k. So I don't ...
,.,,,.
  02/02/25
Actual Bitcoin Maxi people think the price will rise to over...
.........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.
  02/03/25
need TBF to come in & saying stop looking at short term ...
cock of michael obama
  02/02/25
He’s right though
my man
  02/02/25
without speaking to the merits, a thread like this is not co...
cock of michael obama
  02/02/25
85k
but at what cost
  02/02/25
Why is eth down much more than bitcoin? It seems eth is flat...
,.,,,.
  02/03/25
I'm gay
Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire
  02/03/25
...
my man
  02/03/25
ETH hasn't done shit in a long time. i sold like $40k of ETH...
COMES NOW me in ur mom
  02/03/25
Largely will depend on their fundamentals and how the earnin...
.....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
  02/03/25
i thought this meme was funny back in 2016, but it's gotten ...
COMES NOW me in ur mom
  02/03/25
It's actually still hilarious, only thing that's changed is ...
Gay Grandpa
  02/03/25
any guesses at the SOL earnings report this quarter?
COMES NOW me in ur mom
  02/03/25
My guess is I'll earn about 75k unrealized gains on SOL this...
Gay Grandpa
  02/03/25
about that. good times.
COMES NOW me in ur mom
  02/03/25
I too am shocked that the tulip mania bubble getting 10 time...
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  02/03/25
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RED DOG
  02/03/25


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Date: February 2nd, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )


Looks like it’s time to grab some more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615055)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: Young and fresh Bboooooooooom (Fraud@fraud.com)

$0 is what it's "worth"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616515)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: COMES NOW me in ur mom ((zurich is stained))

i got my firm payout and it turns out $46k of it automatically goes into my 401k. gonna put all of that into the bitcoin ETF

$65k left after taxes. i had a couple things to pay off, but i'm putting the remaining $45k on SOL/XRP.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615064)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,.


You should wait until the end of the week at least. The market will get wrecked by tariffs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615149)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615180)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: Oh, You Travel?

Whenever anyone says that, EOW is higher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616462)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

How is this different from tqqq? Tqqq can also drop 10% in 1 day but right now near all time high just like bitcoin.. I'd like to buy either if s&p pulled back to 5500

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615085)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: animeboi (.)

$20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615182)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ )

Sub 50 for sure, maybe 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615184)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: chad gundam (🧐)

It's 50/50 it either goes to 0 or 1 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615200)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: roast beef mafia

***CHAIN OF THOUGHT***

Investigating crypto correlations

I’m piecing together how crypto values tie to the economy and the stock market. Initially, Bitcoin showed minimal or negative correlation with stock market returns.

Noticing crypto's investment shift

Since 2020, crypto's correlation with stocks has strengthened due to institutional interest and economic factors. Crypto often mirrors stock trends as a high-risk, high-reward investment.

Navigating crypto trends

Crypto's interaction with stock markets varies: sometimes it dips more, sometimes it diverges, influenced by macroeconomic factors and market stress, illustrating its complex behavior and potential as a hedge.

Examining the dynamics

Crypto often moves with stocks, but exceptions happen. During GameStop's surge in early 2021, cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin skyrocketed while stocks behaved differently.

Piecing together the narrative

Bitcoin's 2022 drop mimicked the stock market's dip, but it soon rebounded significantly, unlike the ongoing stock struggles. The IMF notes bitcoin's price surge post-pandemic crisis responses.

Assessing Bitcoin's potential

The growing interest from investors since 2017 shows Bitcoin and stock markets are somewhat linked, though Bitcoin's varied correlation over time suggests it might act as a hedge.

Tracing correlations

Crypto and stocks link up during crises but often break apart. Stocks more easily impacted by shocks, while crypto might weather these shifts better or even rise while stocks dip.

Navigating crypto's market

Crypto often aligns with financial turmoil, then diverges. It's typically a risk-on asset, though some investors see it as a potential long-term hedge against fiat currency devaluation.

Understanding the correlation

Cryptos, influenced by macroeconomic factors like interest rates and inflation, exhibit volatile relations with the stock market and tech stocks, often mirrored by their erratic price movements and limited history.

Tracking trends

Cryptos show a slight link with tech stocks in volatile times. Sometimes they split in trends: crypto might surge while stocks slump or vice versa.

Tracking shifts

Crypto's movements often mirror stock trends, but isolated instances or brief periods show it rising while stocks fall, especially around events like global financial crises.

Navigating volatility

Crypto and stocks often move together during high volatility. Occasionally, crypto spikes when stocks dip, like after a global financial crisis, though clear evidence is scarce.

Weighing factors

Crypto's value dances to its narrative narrative and adoption, often out of sync with market trends. This dynamic makes it a highly speculative investment.

Tracking correlations

Crypto's correlation with stocks is moderate when adjusting for volatility, showing periods as a hedge. Bitcoin aligns uniquely with tech stocks but dips during market stress.

***ANSWER**

Crypto values are influenced by many of the same macroeconomic and market‐sentiment factors that affect stocks, but their relationship isn’t fixed—it’s dynamic and can vary over time. In recent years, especially since the onset of the COVID‐19 crisis and the ensuing monetary policy shifts, cryptocurrencies (with Bitcoin as the most prominent example) have shown a moderate positive correlation with stock markets, particularly tech-heavy indices. For instance, some analysts have observed correlations around 0.5 between Bitcoin and tech stocks during certain periods, meaning that, to some degree, investor sentiment and liquidity conditions tend to push both asset classes in similar directions. This has been driven in part by institutional participation and the fact that many investors treat crypto as part of a broader risk‐on portfolio, responding to factors like interest rate changes, inflation expectations, and geopolitical events.

At the same time, academic studies and empirical analyses have found that the overall time-varying correlation between Bitcoin and traditional equities can be relatively low, suggesting that—at least over longer periods or during certain market conditions—crypto might offer some diversification benefits. For example, research using models such as BEKK GARCH and DCC MGARCH (see

ARXIV.ORG

) indicates that while cryptocurrencies and stocks sometimes move together, there are periods when their paths diverge.

Regarding whether there have been times when the stock market goes down significantly while crypto goes up, the picture is more nuanced:

• During severe market stress:

In many broad “risk-off” episodes (such as during the initial COVID-19 panic in early 2020), both stocks and cryptocurrencies have tended to fall as investors sell riskier assets. In these scenarios, crypto has not behaved like a traditional safe haven.

• Instances of divergence:

However, there have been isolated instances or shorter periods where the drivers behind crypto (such as narratives about decentralized finance, increased adoption, or reactions to specific regulatory or political signals) have led to gains even when equity markets were under pressure. Some market participants and analysts—drawing on anecdotal evidence and alternative scenarios discussed on platforms like Reddit—argue that if a severe loss of confidence in fiat currencies were to occur, crypto could potentially rally as investors seek alternatives. Still, such a decoupling is not the norm; most evidence shows that on a day-to-day basis, cryptocurrencies and stocks tend to be positively correlated, albeit imperfectly.

REDDIT.COM

In summary, while crypto and stock values often move in tandem during periods of high volatility and stress—reflecting shared investor sentiment and liquidity conditions—the correlation is not constant. There have been episodes of divergence, but the overall historical record shows that significant market declines are more commonly accompanied by crypto declines as well. That said, because the crypto market is still relatively young and driven by its own set of adoption and technological narratives, its correlation with traditional assets can change as the market matures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615230)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:39 PM
Author: ....,,,.....,,,,....,

CIA will just print more tether to prop it up, if necessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615254)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Prolemobiler

do people actually use that shit for anything? wasnt it like 15-20 years ago?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615261)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: cowgolf

I tried to buy something with bitcoin recently and it took a week just to fund my account. When the account was finally funded the price volatility made it lower than the purchase cost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615265)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )


Can just grab a crypto debit or credit card. They let you pay with fiat or crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616202)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: ....,,,.....,,,,....,

it's basically digital gold. more of a speculative digital store of value than a currency. TBF has provided assurances it's going to $1 million by 2030.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615272)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Prolemobiler

i get the speculation aspect of it same as gold, but lets be real wtf are you ever gonna do with gold?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615546)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

There is a coffee shop near my hotel in dubai marina that supposedly accepts bitcoins. But you can just pay cash about $15 for coffee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615504)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Wife shaving her vagina before a business trip

Intrinsic value is zero so it can’t fall below that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615277)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: sealclubber



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616600)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire (Safari)

Rock solid support at 97k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615279)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: ....,,,.....,,,,....,

we now at 93k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616197)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


Should we buy more now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48615660)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )


I’d wait til at least end of week. Hopefully drops back down to 60-70k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616190)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

How is this different from s&p dropping to 5900 on Monday?? S&p was 5100 in August and bitcoin was 50k. So it's not exactly on sale. Would u buy a McDonald's happy meal if it's 90% more expensive than in august? Maybe individual stocks like nvda will go back to 100 and then that's value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616276)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )


If you’re a bitcoin maxi then you prob believe BTC will reach 1M-2M+ within the next 15 years All this does is allow you to accumulate more at a lower price point.

BTC has a finite supply and isnt really similar to the S&P or individual stocks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616455)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

At 100k it's already closer to 1mil then to 10k. So I don't see a point in buying now... s&p (or its aggressive surrogates like tqqq) actually have more future potential if bought at discount. But they're all only a few points off all time high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616507)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )


Actual Bitcoin Maxi people think the price will rise to over 13M. Sounds like a good deal

Best case: 100k investment is worth 13M in 15-20 years

Worst case: 100k investment is worth 1M

Also if you believe in Bitcoin you usually don’t have a lot of faith in USD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618199)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

need TBF to come in & saying stop looking at short term price fluctuations you faggy babies & it's going to $1 million within the next decade, i've owned it since 2013 and never sold a single coin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616523)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:25 PM
Author: my man

He’s right though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616531)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:27 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

without speaking to the merits, a thread like this is not complete without him writing this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616536)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: but at what cost

85k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616524)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 12:19 AM
Author: ,.,,,.

Why is eth down much more than bitcoin? It seems eth is flat for past year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48616747)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire (Safari)

I'm gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48617899)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: my man



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618390)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: COMES NOW me in ur mom ((zurich is stained))

ETH hasn't done shit in a long time. i sold like $40k of ETH and put it into SOL when a SOL was like $85. glad i did that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618213)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 1:41 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.


Largely will depend on their fundamentals and how the earnings call goes next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618267)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: COMES NOW me in ur mom ((zurich is stained))

i thought this meme was funny back in 2016, but it's gotten kind of old now that we have multiple crypto millionaires on the boart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618288)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Gay Grandpa

It's actually still hilarious, only thing that's changed is the direction of the laughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618318)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: COMES NOW me in ur mom ((zurich is stained))

any guesses at the SOL earnings report this quarter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618364)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Gay Grandpa

My guess is I'll earn about 75k unrealized gains on SOL this quarter.

You?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618369)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: COMES NOW me in ur mom ((zurich is stained))

about that. good times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618468)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.


I too am shocked that the tulip mania bubble getting 10 times bigger has not silenced critics yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618406)



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Date: February 3rd, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: RED DOG



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674235&forum_id=2#48618546)