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Date: March 20th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: Primrose Laser Beams Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766411) |
Date: March 20th, 2025 4:31 PM Author: Appetizing Chapel Death Wish i dont give a shit and love the chaos lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766414) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Primrose Laser Beams Gaming Laptop hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766966) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 4:31 PM Author: Mildly autistic gay legend not really but only because they don't really have anything better lined up. very boomer-tier thinking going on with that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766418) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: Appetizing Chapel Death Wish "Barron -- and hes a tech guy, a tech guy -- tells me he can do most of DOE on computer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766438) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:08 PM Author: Mildly autistic gay legend they say this but there is clearly no taste for experimentation in BIGFED right now and this chatGPT garbage is wrecking retention and teaching quality fastly massive overcorrection from the failures with common core imo. there's a strain of very lazy thinking going around with fed expenditures it makes me wonder wtf are they planning to even do with these kids. let weirdoes on twitter and reddit be responsible for their education? russian propaganda bots and 60 IQ subcontinentals? it makes no sense |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:24 PM Author: trip zippy dilemma toaster There are a lot of very generous tech libertarians who would love to spend more time with other people's kids as long as government isn't peeking over their shoulders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767034) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:56 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,;;.,.;.:...:.,:.::, it seems like stuff like Khan Academy has been a success. there have been a few bright spots with that approach but there are tons of downsides as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767130) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: Faggottini I mean one on one, like in Peter Thiel's poolhouse or whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767153) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:31 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::, i think this is one of the places where they actually are being more careful and systematic about it. the plan is already laid out in project 2025 - all they're really doing is sending student lending back to the private sector, ending federal education standards, killing DEI shit, and trimming headcount. to the extent that the doe is responsible for funding actual education they are not killing that, they are just sending it to different departments. this isn't an elon musk spur-of-the-moment chainsaw thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767055) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:55 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,;;.,.;.:...:.,:.::, that's good to hear then communications have been kind of hard to read from the administration thus far. i don't really mind it when it's just trump being trump in tweets but when it comes from WH press it's confusing |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Kenneth Play appreciate this informative take. i don't know how to feel about DO Education cuts because i realized i don't really know what they do given that most schooling is administered at the state and local level (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767598) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 4:33 PM Author: well-lubricated slate tanning salon Yes. Education is shitlib and undermines faith (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766435) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 4:42 PM Author: soul-stirring khaki point Yes. Make some of those obese negresses do something useful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766485) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:02 PM Author: Primrose Laser Beams Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766970) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: Flirting gas station This is probably as useful as it was going to get (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48766985) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 7:01 AM Author: martin heidegger You might want to sit down for this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768001) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 9:25 AM Author: butt cheeks (✅🍑) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768207) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: Drab french chef well I inherently don’t like people in DC having too much power and spending are money, so yes
besides leas ideological pollution, I think decentralization would encourage states to pursue educational strategies that match their local economies instead of this sookoe cutter approach of everyone getting worthless degrees. mainstreaming college has been a massive disaster for most people |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: 180 nibblets Their only real responsibility is student loans, which has been a disaster for the country. If they just transfer the student loan wing to another department, then it’s a dumb paper shuffling exercise. If they cut student loans, then definitely worth it.
DoEd could have been a great branch, but look at the results. American students, myself included, are ignorant, poorly educated rubes. |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: Drab french chef how should student loans be limited? STEM only and with strict race-blind minimums for SAT scores? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767006) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: spectacular gaped depressive Prohibited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767022) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:25 PM Author: 180 nibblets Get rid of them altogether. They didn’t functionally improve access to education, and they created a generation of indentured servants who have to work a job at all times to service their spectacular debt load.
People just need to accept the fact that “education is the solution” was not actually the solution, and now we have millions of people with college degrees who can’t do basic math. Even Harvard, one of the most prestigious universities in the country, now has to offer remedial algebra classes. |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:30 PM Author: Trumpus Julius Caesar Augustus (TDNW) but don’t you think there are a lot of actually smart kids from poorer families that can do the serious STEM work? with zero loans their only way to get into decent colleges will be the GI Bill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767051) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: #HerToo Yeah, absolutely. But they can get into colleges just fine. The problem is that freely given, undischargable student loans inflated the price of a college degree exponentially. Get rid of the student loans, or at least change the terms so they are dischargable, and the colleges will be forced to adjust accordingly. Sadly there will probably be a decade or so of unfairly screwed students as colleges consolidate, but eventually your left with a fairer system that is almost certainly better at its basic task of educating students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767063) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:52 PM Author: Trumpus Julius Caesar Augustus (TDNW) sure they can get into the colleges just fine, but unless every college does the Harvard thing and gives free tuition to those whose families make less than $150k then these kids will not be going to decent colleges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767115) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: Ass Sunstein All colleges' tuition will go down as a result of this.
It's ok if people go to a lower ranked college they can actually afford, and be a top student there. We don't stress out that not everyone can afford Andover or Exeter for HS, college can be the same. |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: Ass Sunstein It should be set by private lenders, people should generally be free to borrow and lend under mutually agreed terms but the government should not be involved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767121) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,;;.,.;.:...:.,:.::, won't this indirectly set a commercial tone for curriculum then? what we're seeing with the current approach to staffing is the weaknesses of putting private sector people in specialized public positions imo in older times billionaires put out generous endowments for people heading into public policy and the liberal arts, but this doesn't seem to be as much the paradigm of today |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: Ass Sunstein There are more free educational resources available to everyone on earth than at any time in human history. There is no need for the government to funnel money into colleges via student loans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767157) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 8:23 AM Author: Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire (Safari) Okay but it's about the credential, not the education (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768085) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 8:43 AM Author: Ass Sunstein So what's the problem then? End student loans. Tuition comes down everywhere. Many shitty colleges probably end up closing down. Pick a college you can afford, if it makes sense to attend. For many people, yes, it may not make sense to attend college. Learn whatever else you need to learn online. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768115) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 9:23 AM Author: Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire (Safari) Do you get a credential for learning online now, or did you mean to reply to somebody else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768201) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: Mildly autistic gay legend they should be funding state and county level education programs on a loose and generous results basis, taking what works, and funding it elsewhere not manipulable standardized exam scores but stuff like class matriculation %, anonymous student reports, and life/career outcomes |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: 180 nibblets The problem no one wants to admit we have is that education quality is actually a hard thing to measure. Anytime you try to measure it, you run into Goodhart’s law, but if you just throw money at it without some kind of standards you get scammed.
The honest answer is that it’s a function of culture, but changing that requires a huge shock. |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,;;.,.;.:...:.,:.::, it's very difficult to measure with hard metrics but i feel like the best (and probably only) way to judge it is with the supreme court indecency test "i know it when i see it" type things i agree with your poast. seems like it has to be measured on a timeline too distantly measured for there to be the sort of accountability that the treasurers would like |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: vibrant temple queen of the night I’m on SAVE and have no idea what is going on. If they try to make me pay normal amounts for this garbage I’ll literally sue and if needed just abandon it and flee the country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767005) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 11:33 PM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,. SAVE was killed by the courts. PAYE is currently suspended, too. the only question is whether SAVEmos will be punted over to the old IBR plan, or if they will be sent directly to standard repayment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767729) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 9:47 AM Author: .,..,.,.;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..;,.., 180. don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768248) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: talented casino what did that dept even do? i honestly don't know and never cared. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767010) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:24 PM Author: trip zippy dilemma toaster Trump should order Americans to march into the ocean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767032) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 8:37 PM Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,.., He’s doing a decent job so far (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767262) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 11:25 PM Author: Long Red Poon Tie Covering Your Wang (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767718) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:25 PM Author: vivacious mental disorder yeah man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767036) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:26 PM Author: cerebral geriatric hall As long as it doesn’t hurt special needs kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767039) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:30 PM Author: Trumpus Julius Caesar Augustus (TDNW) and proud we are of all of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767052) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 7:17 AM Author: Long Red Poon Tie Covering Your Wang Barron will handle that, thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768018) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: internet g0y (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767081) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:51 PM Author: Ass Sunstein We need to end government involvement in student loans which has been a complete disaster and has driven tuition prices to ridiculous levels. The whole idea of spending huge sums of money for college and going into debt for it has got to change.
Truly talented people can always get private loans if they want to, based on test scores, quality of the degree, etc for the rare cases it makes sense. |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 3:34 AM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,;;.,.;.:...:.,:.::, good point buck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767917) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: daniel gay luis we don't need a billion faggot bureaucrats coming up with new ways each year to try to teach beaners and blacks how to add and subtract (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767139) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: internet g0y woah cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767151) |
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Date: March 20th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) is prolly bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48767720) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 7:25 AM Author: shitlib shibboleth Student loans were implemented in the most retarded way possible and clearly cause universities to bloat.
Lenders should be able to adjust rates based in student potential. A stem major going to MIT shouldn’t pay the same rates as someone getting a gender studies degree from a directional state university.
Also it is preposterous that colleges refuse to become more efficient in the information era. With the Internet, AI, video recording, etc., these schools should be serving much greater populations for less money. There should still be an in-person opportunity to go to Harvard, but they need to push online extension school as a less costly and less prestigious (but equally viable) option. We also need a post-SAT aptitude test where young job applicants can be better benchmarked against each other. |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 8:15 AM Author: Ass Sunstein HARVARD EXTENSION SCHOOL FOR ALL! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768071) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 8:52 AM Author: rick'claim panama (1) lol @ thinking the 1000s of 'workers' in the doe did anything that had a positive effect on edu outcomes
it's going to be just like twitter, fire nearly all the staff and barely anything misses a beat. i guarantee 95%++ of people (formerly) employed by the 'doe' had make work / no-show jobs. |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 10:05 AM Author: internet g0y (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768305) |
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Date: March 21st, 2025 10:06 AM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,.,.,,..,.,,. I recall a year ago when cons were all up in arms about the Department of Education. This isn’t a new issue they just decided to go along with because Trump did it, not at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5697268&forum_id=2#48768311) |