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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?

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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unles...
concupiscible overrated parlor
  04/24/13
Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?
Flatulent Copper Love Of Her Life
  04/24/13
just sit down with him and run through all the problems with...
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
Very important. What was the fuck up? If it was something...
Adventurous yapping point mad cow disease
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks
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  04/24/13
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Adventurous yapping point mad cow disease
  04/24/13
is he coming on after graduation?
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity.&quo...
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mewling curious giraffe
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?
Flatulent Copper Love Of Her Life
  04/24/13
only credited question in the entire thread
180 Karate Theater Stage
  06/18/13
I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for h...
provocative sanctuary ladyboy
  04/24/13
this
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  04/24/13
titcr
Cocky Exhilarant Crackhouse
  04/24/13
180, especially this part: "Make sure he knows that ...
Tan territorial market
  04/25/13
i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?
thriller black brunch
  06/18/13
are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. ...
mewling curious giraffe
  04/24/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shi...
Very tactful disgusting volcanic crater
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip e...
cowardly box office
  04/24/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  04/24/13
If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it i...
Internet-worthy heady resort roast beef
  04/24/13
protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- ...
mewling curious giraffe
  04/25/13
I don't believe that you're a professional employment consul...
cowardly box office
  04/25/13
if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to...
plum fragrant stage
  04/24/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
Did he have a good reputation before this? It's hard to ...
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
what type of firm are you at? no doobs but it's kind of ...
180 Karate Theater Stage
  06/18/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?
180 Karate Theater Stage
  06/18/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potent...
180 Karate Theater Stage
  06/18/13
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath wo...
sick sapphire stead indirect expression
  06/18/13
if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him ...
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Brindle Reading Party Piazza
  06/18/13
the way you described it made it seem like you told him exac...
Impertinent free-loading double fault genital piercing
  06/18/13
How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish p...
topaz church
  06/18/13
Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?
Citrine stimulating property knife
  06/18/13
School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn'...
maroon rough-skinned clown
  06/18/13


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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: concupiscible overrated parlor

i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Flatulent Copper Love Of Her Life

Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: bossy aqua famous landscape painting location

just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: Adventurous yapping point mad cow disease

Very important. What was the fuck up?

If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.

But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.

Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.

I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.

Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068412)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: light soul-stirring coldplay fan tanning salon

lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: Adventurous yapping point mad cow disease

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: lake excitant cruise ship

is he coming on after graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: contagious immigrant chapel

"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."

You sound like a fucking boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068395)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: mewling curious giraffe



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: Flatulent Copper Love Of Her Life

How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: 180 Karate Theater Stage

only credited question in the entire thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: provocative sanctuary ladyboy

I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: flushed submissive digit ratio

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: Cocky Exhilarant Crackhouse

titcr

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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: Tan territorial market

180, especially this part:

"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074226)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: thriller black brunch

i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: mewling curious giraffe

are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.

the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068419)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: Very tactful disgusting volcanic crater

If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: cowardly box office

How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Internet-worthy heady resort roast beef

If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.

Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.

I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068850)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: mewling curious giraffe

protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: cowardly box office

I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: plum fragrant stage

if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: fear-inspiring bateful tank spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: sickened hospital

Did he have a good reputation before this?

It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424546)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: 180 Karate Theater Stage

what type of firm are you at?

no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424550)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: 180 Karate Theater Stage

gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: 180 Karate Theater Stage

so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: sick sapphire stead indirect expression

How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: Impertinent free-loading double fault genital piercing

if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM
Author: Brindle Reading Party Piazza



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: Impertinent free-loading double fault genital piercing

the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424637)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: topaz church

How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: Citrine stimulating property knife

Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: maroon rough-skinned clown

School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825)