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Isn't the Supreme Court ruling cr?

The government didn't actually coerce social media companies...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
yes, it was a nonsense case filed for political purposes. an...
Live Free or Die.
  06/26/24
Why is it preposterous? What legitimate need does the govern...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/26/24
(constitutional lawyer)
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
I suppose. Only guillotines will save us now.
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
Incorrect because they didn't even reach the issues you're t...
ceci n'est pas un avocat
  06/26/24
The last sentence is true ofc but we should still try
ceci n'est pas un avocat
  06/26/24
"Standing" literally means whatever these bald fra...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
Yeah that was just a cop out by the Supreme Court though, be...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
That may be true in terms of the scouts justices psychology ...
ceci n'est pas un avocat
  06/26/24
True good point. Now you're thinking like a lawyer!
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
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cock of michael obama
  06/26/24
heh, the federal government is just 'asking' politely, hehe....
reactionary modernist
  06/26/24
Nice server farm you got there...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
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Trump is the Lib Killer
  06/26/24
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cock of michael obama
  06/26/24
If you could demonstrate coercion, it would be categorically...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
what would it realistically take to “demonstrate&rdquo...
potluck
  06/26/24
Well for starters, the social media companies would have to ...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
They still have the same fucking gun pointed at them you ass...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
You're making the argument that because the people in power ...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&fo...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
Standing is a bullshit judicial construct, not a "law,&...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/26/24
The coercion is that the FBI, DOJ, SEC, etc. will open a doz...
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  06/26/24
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cock of michael obama
  06/26/24
BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY OR ELSE BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY OR ELSE BUT ...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
(arguments the plaintiffs never raised)
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
Yeah it is, because there was no actual coercion. The real i...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
I wonder why
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
Is this your honest fucking assessment of what happened here...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
It's like when Tony Soprano asks you to do something nicely ...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
When did I ever refuse an accommodation... except one time?
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
It's like when Twitter was run by the FBI the whole time you...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
You might like this classic Sopranos scene where there was a...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
Keep watching TV shows from the 90s, fat faggot pumo.
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
I will. And you can stick to Star Wars Acolyte or whatever g...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
I'm talking about Twitter and the FBI. You're afraid to talk...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
Here's another good Sopranos scene. No actual coercion here ...
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
You're a bot.
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/24
What do you think really happened? Spell it out faggot.
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
I think the most powerful politician in the world "aske...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
Why did you put "asked" in quotes? You're already ...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
It's not a request when it comes from your regulator and you...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
You are the worst lawyer on earth.
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
What actually happened: Shitlibs asked some other shitlibs t...
megapoaster summer
  06/26/24
Exactly. Conservative "lawyers" in this thread sho...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
That's not consistent with internal Twitter handwringing ove...
jacked up on all kinds of drugs
  06/26/24
(no link)
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
https://x.com/FBillMcMorris/status/1805971454845923587
.;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
  06/26/24
Alito worked at Twitter?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/24
Cons are really just mad that the Biden CAMPAIGN (they weren...
"''"'"'""'""
  06/26/24
It's a difficult question, because its obvious that the gove...
........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
  06/26/24
ctrl-f "constituion" No hits It's a pumo of ...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
Here's a fucking idea: the goverment can post its own positi...
Hollywood Hogan
  06/26/24
Here's another idea: pass a law. I know you're not a lawyer,...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24
the executive branch of government can impact the fate of so...
Kenneth Play
  06/26/24
(not a lawyer)
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  06/26/24


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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

The government didn't actually coerce social media companies into doing anything. They just asked them to censor stuff, and the social media companies did it, and would have done it anyway of their own volition (they are aligned with the current US government on everything). In fact tons of social media companies, websites, etc censored these same things voluntarily without the government explicitly asking them to do so

If you take "the law" seriously, and these dorks all do except for Alito and Thomas, this seems like the cr ruling. When you think about it, it doesn't even make any sense to say that the government can't ask social media companies to censor stuff. If the government couldn't do this for some incoherent arbitrary reason, they'd just hire private actors to do the same thing, which is what they've actually done in many cases

It's not a "law" problem that the people in power are insane and evil. And we're never going to stop them via "the law" anyway



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779295)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: Live Free or Die.

yes, it was a nonsense case filed for political purposes. and it is serving that interest well. look at how we all rile up over it.

what would a victory look like? the government CAN'T ask media to do something AND any state can sue over it? its preposterous.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779301)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:35 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

Why is it preposterous? What legitimate need does the government have to ask the media to "do something"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780907)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:42 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


(constitutional lawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780912)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

I suppose.

Only guillotines will save us now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779303)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat

Incorrect because they didn't even reach the issues you're talking about

Taking this case at face value, even if the govt had forced these companies at gunpoint to censor certain speech, even knowing that censored speech was in fact accurate, the decision still comes out the same way because you (as a reader/consumer of news) have no legal right to complain about being lied to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779307)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:24 PM
Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat

The last sentence is true ofc but we should still try

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779321)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

"Standing" literally means whatever these bald frauds want it to mean and always has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779332)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

Yeah that was just a cop out by the Supreme Court though, because they could. We both know that if your hypo was reality, they'd rule differently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779339)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:30 PM
Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat

That may be true in terms of the scouts justices psychology but is irrelevant in terms of the precedent set for lower courts in future cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779354)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

True good point. Now you're thinking like a lawyer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779377)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:27 PM
Author: cock of michael obama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779341)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: reactionary modernist

heh, the federal government is just 'asking' politely, hehe. when the state 'asks' huge influential media platforms to do something, it's just like your neighbor 'asking' you to turn down your stereo. nbd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779314)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

Nice server farm you got there...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779335)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:58 PM
Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779471)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:27 PM
Author: cock of michael obama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779340)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:31 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

If you could demonstrate coercion, it would be categorically different. There just wasn't any coercion happening. The social media companies themselves aren't even claiming there was coercion, lol. I agree that it's easy to construct a hypo where there *could* be coercion, but that isn't happening. In that case, the coercion by the government would be what would be illegal, not the act by the government of asking social media companies to censor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779358)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: potluck

what would it realistically take to “demonstrate” coercion beyond what was demonstrated in the record here? you should read the dissent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779376)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:36 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

Well for starters, the social media companies would have to claim they were coerced, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779380)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:39 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

They still have the same fucking gun pointed at them you asshole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779393)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:46 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

You're making the argument that because the people in power are evil and insane, we have to change our laws to reflect the fact that they're evil and insane

The whole point of my thread is that this way of seeing the world doesn't make sense. We shouldn't be trying to change our "laws" to become incoherent and contradictory because the people in power are evil and insane. They don't follow "the law" anyway. We end up with shittier and more incoherent laws and evil and insane people still in power

We just have to kill all of those people. There's no other way to actually solve the problem. Any conversation that starts with "we need to make it illegal for the government to..." instead of "we need to publicly execute Anthony Fauci" is a non-starter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779420)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779303

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779438)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:33 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

Standing is a bullshit judicial construct, not a "law," and it's already incoherent and contradictory. Yes, those people should be publicly executed, but they probably won't be, and this court ruling will embolden them to keep doing what they were already doing and take it up a few levels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780902)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


The coercion is that the FBI, DOJ, SEC, etc. will open a dozen investigations into you and the company if you don't comply.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779381)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: cock of michael obama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779405)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY OR ELSE BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY OR ELSE BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY OR ELSE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779406)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


(arguments the plaintiffs never raised)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779461)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Yeah it is, because there was no actual coercion. The real issue is that Twitter could have ignored them but didn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779347)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:31 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


I wonder why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779363)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:33 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

Is this your honest fucking assessment of what happened here you credulous retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779369)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


It's like when Tony Soprano asks you to do something nicely and you ignore him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779375)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

When did I ever refuse an accommodation... except one time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779387)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It's like when Twitter was run by the FBI the whole time you quivering little faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779402)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:43 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


You might like this classic Sopranos scene where there was absolutely no coercion, none whatsoever!

https://youtu.be/MDheXEIxWas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779408)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:46 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Keep watching TV shows from the 90s, fat faggot pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779425)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


I will. And you can stick to Star Wars Acolyte or whatever gay shows you shitlibs watch these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779444)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:52 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


I'm talking about Twitter and the FBI. You're afraid to talk about that because you're an impotent little bitch, pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779449)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


Here's another good Sopranos scene. No actual coercion here either.

https://youtu.be/rTFV78kON9o

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779456)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


You're a bot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779462)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:42 PM
Author: cock of michael obama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779407)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:41 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


What do you think really happened? Spell it out faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779400)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:46 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

I think the most powerful politician in the world "asked" them to do a series of favors behind a very thinly veiled threat that the companies would take it in the ass from a dozen alphabet agencies if they didn't comply.

The favor was to censor content that was personally and politically embarrassing to the politician.

What the fuck do you think happened?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779422)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Why did you put "asked" in quotes? You're already backtracking in your first sentence, faggot. If you're a lawyer you suck dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779432)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

It's not a request when it comes from your regulator and you're wilfully ignorant if you think otherwise.

If Twitter said "no" is that the end of the incident?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779458)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


You are the worst lawyer on earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779468)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:49 PM
Author: megapoaster summer

What actually happened: Shitlibs asked some other shitlibs to censor some information that they both wanted censored, in order to help their shared allies and harm their shared enemies. And the shitlibs were like, "yeah sure, orange man bad!"

Literally no coercion whatsoever happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779434)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Exactly. Conservative "lawyers" in this thread should be ashamed of themselves for treating Twitter like some innocent little baby that was threatened (with what???) by the government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779443)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs

That's not consistent with internal Twitter handwringing over it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779469)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:58 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


(no link)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779472)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 3:40 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


https://x.com/FBillMcMorris/status/1805971454845923587

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779892)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Alito worked at Twitter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779927)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: cock of michael obama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779467)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 12:31 PM
Author: "''"'"'""'""

Cons are really just mad that the Biden CAMPAIGN (they weren’t even in power yet) asked Twitter to take down Hunter’s nudes. There’s pretty much all that came out of Bari Weiss and Matt Taibbi’s review if the “Twitter Files”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47779359)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 6:03 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


It's a difficult question, because its obvious that the government should be able to reach out to these places to push information. If Biden has a new healthcare bill, he really has an obligation to go to the social media companies, explain their position, and respond to frequent criticisms.

But at the same time, the Biden admin obviously shouldn't be reaching out to Twitter saying things like "Why is Alex Berenson still allowed to have an account? He's a purveyor of misinformation."

Supreme Court wasn't interested in drawing that line - but it seems to me a pretty easy line to draw is that the government can be involved in correcting its position but should never be suggesting censorship to a social media company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780494)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 6:21 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


ctrl-f "constituion"

No hits

It's a pumo of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780540)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:53 PM
Author: Hollywood Hogan

Here's a fucking idea: the goverment can post its own positions on social media through normal processes and accounts just like everyone else. It has no need to "reach out" to these companies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780924)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 9:00 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Here's another idea: pass a law. I know you're not a lawyer, so I'm trying to offer helpful suggestions on how to get things done in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780945)



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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: Kenneth Play ( )

the executive branch of government can impact the fate of social media through myriad ways. it doesn't pass the laugh test to suggest that there is no actual coercion when the government simply makes a naked request to social media - social media knows who's the boss

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Date: June 26th, 2024 8:36 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


(not a lawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545646&forum_id=2#47780908)