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College football playoff is supposed to reward 12 best seasons not 12 best teams
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:09 AM Author: Hyderabadass Insane to have 2 loss Georgia ahead of undefeated Indiana. Sure Georgia would be favored in a head to head but Georgia was also favored in their 2 losses. Indiana beat UCLA, Nebraska, & last years #1 and #2 teams Michigan & Washington
Before the ESPNization of this sport that would be a great season. These TV kikes need to be gassed. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:18 AM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Indiana should definitely get in over two loss Tenn or Texas and probably two loss Ole Miss, or three loss Bama for that matter. Not Georgia, though, because that result will destroy OOC and make the SEC pussify its scheduling completely. Should really just have a rule that a conference can only get a max of 4. Seems silly to have 40+% of the tournament from one conference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364631) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:23 AM Author: Peter Brady If the game were tomorrow, Georgia would be a 7 point favorite on a neutral field against Indiana. Maybe more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364641) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:09 PM Author: Anton Chigur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364820) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:34 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Agreed. Now do Tennessee. 4 points? Maybe 5? Would you be tempted to bet the moneyline? Sounds like two playoff teams. And a loss to Arkansas probably should cost Tenn a spot in the playoff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364951) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:38 AM Author: sph What does Georgia have to do with OOC scheduling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364693) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:31 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; They scheduled Clemson for the opener, which was supposed to be a clash of the titans. The larger point is that if Georgia goes 10-2 with losses to two other top 10 SEC teams and misses the playoffs, then the SEC is definitely going to go to 8 games instead of 9 and will fill in the rest of their schedule with cupcakes, which sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364930) |
Date: November 21st, 2024 11:22 AM Author: (-_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-) counterpoint: Indiana is a better team than Georgia too.
In CFB there's always this weird dichotomy between calling a team "the best" despite the only thing that matters, which is their record and perforamnce in real games. Ga could go 0-11 and be called one of the "best" teams because performance in real games doesn't actually matter to analysts/pundits. Theyre "supposed to be" the best, how could they not be, they had a t5 recruiting class. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:25 AM Author: Hyderabadass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364642) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:59 AM Author: richard clock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364782) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:23 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364890) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:56 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Strongly disagree, and anyone who is even vaguely familiar with UGA’s DL would also likely disagree. But the cool part about the CFP is we’ll get to see this settled on the field! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365438) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:22 AM Author: .,.,.,....., there are downstream negative consequences to either approach.
say you reward "best seasons"
- youre incentivizing weak scheduling, which is already a problem. Yes, IU '24 played some real games (tho lol at including previous year good teams in this count), but say most contenders do in fact schedule 1-2 real challenges and 2-3 absolute dogs. The change will likely be seen in the middle games, and people will replace those with dogs.
- you'll get teams in the playoffs after some miracle stretch of 11-1 who everyone knows, absolutely 100%, will get blown out, while a more talented match sits at home. This is not only bad for rating$$$, its not enjoyable football.
At one point, you need to kowtow to the fact that a two-loss powerhouse does simply "deserve" to be there more than an undefeated nobody. Or at least some times. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:26 AM Author: Hyderabadass Yeah the only real solution is go back to 10 team conferences where every team plays the other 9 and each conference champ makes it in. Also playing FCS schools should be banned. The whole thing is a mess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364648) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:33 AM Author: .,.,.,....., heart of the problem is that playing a football game is high cost and unlike basketball you cannot do it enough times to truly sort out the best from 112 schools.
one approach is to say div 1 is just too fucking big. Split out a "champions" division of 30 teams or something, and limit play to other teams in the division. The most cupcake team you can schedule is #30. Have the league create schedules using COMPUTER so Bama cannot simply pay to be the one who plays #25, #28, and #30 each year, etc. 12 team playoff from only those schools.
but honestly, my preferred approach is simply to RETVRN to the pre-bcs era.
Have rose, sugar, orange, cotton, fiesta bowls, all on NYD. An ORGY of great CFB in one day. Then crown a mythical champion. Everyone didnt always agree, but most did. Fuck modernity. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:35 AM Author: Hyderabadass I agree in some ways but the FCS playoff has been pretty awesome for at least 30+ years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364681) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:39 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Playoff is so much better than pre BCS solely based on the fact that we get these awesome matchups on campus the weekends around Christmas and NYE. Let alone that winning the tourney will be much more legit for any champ and anyone who was a borderline #12 team will never have a real gripe because they will have always lost either multiple games or one game that’s an embarrassing loss. It’s far superior, though I would prefer a 14 team system where the SEC and B1G champs get byes in the first round. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364995) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:53 PM Author: Anton Chigur Expanding tourney field with edge play in games and rewarding byes for conference winners is obviously TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365118) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:54 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen You get finality but there is also something that is lost. 1994 Penn State goes undefeated and ends up #2 in the AP. Nebraska, also undefeated, #1. Awful. But Penn State still claims that title, as they should. If we were in 2024, both those teams would have been in the playoffs but you could have had a championship game between Colorado and Alabama, which would have been kind of unsatisfying actually. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:12 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; I will get immense satisfaction seeing overrated B1G teams get got in the CFP, but I understand why B1G fans don’t want that. Too bad! The networks and the schools make more money this way! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365216) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:31 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen Like last year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365296) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:39 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Sadly there was a 4 team playoff last year, so a very flawed Mich team got to duck UGA and barely squeaked past Bama. It will be fun to find out if the overrated B1G teams lose before the semis or if it takes until the semis of the finals for that likely result to play out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365335) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:35 AM Author: cartrages this would be 180. which is why it will never happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364680) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:38 AM Author: As far as they will go but even farther (🧐) who cares about any of this shit anymore man
the era of the GigaConference has completely ruined most of the structure and it's irreparable. there's nothing left to do besides enjoy individual matchups |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:41 AM Author: .,.,.,....., macro solution is to force the nfl, through litigation, to take control and ownership over its minor league.
teams who want to compete in the powerhouse minor league can either separate entirely from the host university, or maintain some cultural connection. The Tuscaloosa Crimson Tide, etc.
The teams that opt out can return to some sane sense of student-athleticism.
18yo bucks who really are only prepping for the NFL can gtfo college campuses. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:42 AM Author: Hyderabadass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364705) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:07 PM Author: As far as they will go but even farther (🧐) this is the only obviously reasonable solution and would also completely kill all fanfare around college sports so it's not happening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364816) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:27 PM Author: .,.,.,....., "period of difficulty," etc.
after the hard times, real college sports, featuring actual athletic white guys who attend college, would re-emerge.
many times easier to spend money on that and support that than paying for some rapey blacks who have never attended a class and who are getting $1M NIL to "represent" your alma mater |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:55 PM Author: As far as they will go but even farther (🧐) the fact is that college sports (well, football and to a lesser extent basketball) make a lot of money for a lot of people. turning them into minor leagues and returning college sports to what it actually should be tanks popularity overnight and means that money spigot just evaporates, which is why it will never happen. we'd legitimately see an overhaul of the entire US university system before NCAA football is seriously reformed
it's not that it's a particularly difficult thing to envision, it's that there are too many interested parties making too much money off the current system for there to be any chance of reform |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:42 AM Author: detroitrockcity Oh yes just rank on total number of losses, like the NFL, fucking douche. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364706) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:54 AM Author: Hyderabadass Have every team do combine drills & reward the teams with the best 40 time & bench press it's crazy they even have to play "games". Just give the title to the team with the most draft picks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364756) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:09 PM Author: richard clock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364825) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 11:58 AM Author: gedood persoon Indiana has only one real opponent on the schedule this year. If they are blown out they should be excluded, if they lose a close one they should be in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364773) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:09 PM Author: Hyderabadass Michigan & Washington played for the title game like 10 months ago but Georgia beat Clemson who was good 5 years ago checkmate owned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364821) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:17 PM Author: gedood persoon Those teams are both complete shit now who cares what they did last year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364866) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:28 PM Author: Hyderabadass Clemson though what a program, what a great win for 2 loss Georgia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364910) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:35 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Georgia thoroughly handled Texas @ Texas and cost Quinn Ewers probably at least $25M next spring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48364962) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Hyderabadass Texas is fraud
Texas has as many Top 25 wins as you and I do: Zero. It has exactly two wins over teams with winning records: Colorado State and Vanderbilt. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:42 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; And yet they scheduled Mich OOC and played their full SEC slate that also includes their triple SWC rivalry games. If they make the SEC CG they are a lock, but if they lose to A&M they might be out and probably should be. The fact remains that Georgia played the toughest schedule in the country and if you’re choosing among 2 loss teams they are an easy first pick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365021) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:52 PM Author: Anton Chigur Anyone not fading Texas rn is retarded af
They will expose how gay the current system is soon
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:58 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; They did the same thing last season and then turned it on at the end. I think it’s more likely that Sark has like 100 plays he refuses to put on film before December. But if I was them I would throw the SEC CG to try to keep Ole Miss or Tenn out of the tourney. They likely still host a playoff game and arguably the 5 seed is more advantageous than the 2 or 3 if they are playing BYU in round 1 and Boise State in round 2. Does it count as being exposed if they lose to Georgia by 30 this time in the semis? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365161) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:13 PM Author: Anton Chigur Kiffin keeping this sps ole miss team in contention is 180 af
SEC should just do there own thing an entire season and let everyone else duke it out and have a bowl for unification |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 2:00 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; It’s amazing how far you can go with a good QB (probably the best pro style prospect in the draft this year) and a really good DT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365471) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:44 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen This is exactly what everyone with sense thought would end up happening-- you still get controversy regardless of whether it is 4 teams, 12 teams or 64. No problem with that BTW. I kthink I might slightly prefer the old bowl system actually. |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:47 PM Author: lowkey wry poster I've been saying this for years
the whole thing is stupid |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 1:02 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Old bowl system was idiotic because it made the controversy “who is the champ” like one out of every four seasons. “Does this team really deserve to be #12” is far superior because it’s low stakes. Yes there are “controversies” narrowing basketball down to 64, but everyone forgets about them 5 minutes after the first games tip off the first Thursday of the tournament, because no one ultimately gives a shit that a 19-11 team with an 8-8 record in their conference was held out of the tournament. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365171) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:46 PM Author: Hyderabadass https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gc6ryqrX0AAz_qy?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5637931&forum_id=2#48365060) |
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Date: November 21st, 2024 12:48 PM Author: Anton Chigur Each conference winner with conf championship game included should get bye week but we go back to real conference play and intradivisional rivalry games annually like sec used to have
They should be removed from rankings and then all remaining teams in top 20-25 should get reseeded with AI SoS and wins losses weighted against conf winners and reseeded teams with a play in week of games like NBA and March Madness for extreme edge teams to make it fun and have a Cinderella knock off a fraud check powerhouse
It’s fair and exposes the fraud conferences who can be weeded out of bye week contention over time
Current system is as bad if not worse than UFC ranking system |