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Would you turn down a job offer because you were their second choice?
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Nazca Redlines My current job is fine, but I think I could do better. I got an offer for another in-house job that seems generally comparable to mine, except it pays 20% more. I planned on taking it, but one of the other attorneys let slip that they offered the job to someone else a few days ago, and he/she declined the offer. Should I do the same? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788076) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:34 PM Author: professional simp i wouldn't turn down a job for this reason, but i would turn down a woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788078) |
Date: March 27th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: .- .-. . .-. . .--. - .. .-.. . It's not a good sign but 20% is hard to argue with ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788077) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Current job is fine, so I don't mind waiting a few months or another year to move, if this new job would start out on the wrong foot and never recover. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788079) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::, OH THE DIGNITY OF WORK! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788081) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:47 PM Author: caitlin clark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788112) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: blow off some steam entirely depends on the races of everyone involved (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788082) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: fart hole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788087) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:02 PM Author: aggressive mimicry height (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788788) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: blow off some steam at a minimum we know he was shorter than their first choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789471) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Mr Right they do this all the time. maybe decliner had family/health whatevs reasons to turn down and maybe had 5 years more xp than you. +20% sounds good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788083) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:41 PM Author: Nazca Redlines The fact that it's only 20% more money is part of the hang up. An extra 20% isn't that much. I could probably get that much (or more) at another job at some point in the next few months if I keep applying, I don't mind waiting, and I don't want to start this job as (a) their second choice or (b) if there is something about it that the other candidate saw that I don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788096) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: Mr Right fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788103) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) are you a woman?
unless you think you're objectively the most attractive lawyer in the country then you have to accept that someone that's at least better than you on paper might go for the same job. |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Of course there will be better candidates for any job. It's that, are there negative aspects of this job that the other candidate discerned that I haven't seen? And will I be behind the eightball in terms of how I'm viewed, given that I'd be coming in as their second choice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788099) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: fulano if its some gayass "team" with a boomer boss he is definitely going to use it against you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788109) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Nazca Redlines wdym? Isn't that 95%+ of in-house lawyer jobs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788118) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:04 PM Author: fulano if its just transactional work then it wont matter but most boomers want tlc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788163) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:47 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) well you definitely have the neuroticism to be a top candidate!
only you could possibly know this unless you want to out the company. but it's far more likely that the #1 choice got a better offer, maybe even from their current employer. |
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Date: March 28th, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Candy Ride Have you never hired people before? Lots of hires are second or third choices and nobody remembers about any of that after a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48792028) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:45 PM Author: Judas Jones "some of those involved in the hiring decision thought you came across as "kind of a fag" but you're our best remaining option" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788104) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: blow off some steam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788108) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: caitlin clark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788116) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788122) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: He flexed his right muscle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789456) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:47 PM Author: Advantage Player who gives a fuck? there is literally no rational reason to take this kind of thing personally. It's retarded and pure ego. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788111) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: caitlin clark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788117) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:51 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Whose taking it personally? It's a matter of calculating if it's worth it to jump for a moderate--but not great--increase in comp when they might be less than totally enthused at my hire, there might be something about the role/team/company I'm missing, and I could probably get another offer that's as good or better if I go through more months of job applications and interviews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788130) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:53 PM Author: Advantage Player you are, by mentioning it at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788133) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:52 PM Author: Luigi's Mangina (SSPX Masterman) The fact you even mention this now means it’s already too late. You’ll be second guessing yourself from the first day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788881) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: Juan Eighty fretting over a hiring manager using Pick Up Artist tactics from 2005 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788137) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:03 PM Author: office towers cr dread game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788157) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: UhOh you're gonna come in one day and your boss will be sucking off the first choice candidate on your desk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788147) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:06 PM Author: Rampart ( ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788166) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:07 PM Author: blow off some steam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788169) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: i used to party too (No Future) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788265) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:50 PM Author: Oh, you! Travel! (🧐) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788272) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:32 PM Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788422) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: caitlin clark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788784) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:50 PM Author: Ass Sunstein Why would you think you were the first choice for any job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788271) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:51 PM Author: you\'re the puppet Cr, or that this is even particularly relevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788275) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Why not? Or at least the first choice in the pool of people who went through the process and got an offer?
If you apply soon after the job is posted, go through the interview process pretty quickly, and receive an offer during or very soon after the last interview, it's fair to assume you're the top candidate. |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: lex i find this possibility equally crippling in both employment and romance. it isn't supposed to be like this. there aren't supposed to be "marketplaces" for human beings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788283) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:02 PM Author: saibaman wtf lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788292) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:07 PM Author: lex i should have married my UG sweetheart and stayed in my first real job until i died. everything after was a huge mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788311) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: Nazca Redlines https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/mian4v/things_that_will_never_be/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788370) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:28 PM Author: novus homo (gunneratttt) pretty devasted that this is how i learn how little all the gay sex we have means to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788395) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: lex it was different when it was with you sweetie, don't worry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788430) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:43 PM Author: Oh, you love men? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788857) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:47 PM Author: Luigi's Mangina (SSPX Masterman) It depends. Some of these roles are very competitive and being considered at all is good. If it’s some run of the mill bull shit I’d turn it down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788867) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 9:45 PM Author: Nazca Redlines What does how competitive the role is have to do with it? And in any event, ITE, most decent in house roles are very, very competitive. Posts on LinkedIn show 100 applications through Linkedin alone within a couple days. This one is especially competitive because it's well paying.
The bottom line is it's only 20% more total compensation than my current job, and that doesn't seem like enough to justify the move when factoring in the fact that someone else turned them down for this role. |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:52 PM Author: Oh, You Travel? ( ) I saw a Second Choice guy get treated like shit for like 17 months, ran off, and replaced by the First Chice. The Second Chice guy had like a 15 day honeymoon iirc. They’ll hate you like the mom hates the son in Ordinary People. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788884) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 7:55 PM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. Who cares? Almost every job I’ve ever gotten I’ve been pretty far down the list, and every single of them has ended up great for the employer and everyone quickly realized what a great choice “they” made. Interviewing skills are just all about likability over a 30 minute cold call. Totally different skill set than actual work. I don’t blame people for preferring to go with the cute chick with big tits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48788895) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, Either (i) the person came off as better for the job in 30 minute interviews that had nothing to do with the job - in which case, who gives a shit or (ii) the person had a way better resume - in which case, who gives a shit.
Interviewing is beyond stupid. You should save these slights for promotions or shit whree the people actually know you. |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 9:27 PM Author: Oh, You Travel? ( ) Job Interviews are used to assess phenotype and Clique. This is NOT stupid.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789181) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 9:48 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Even if all that's true, in a vacuum, the second choice candidate risks being treated like an ugly stepchild, and the candidate who turned them down may have seen something I don't see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789301) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 9:53 PM Author: tsar booba State your height and Norwood level (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789337) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:22 PM Author: Candy Ride Lol at in house cucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789418) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: Kenneth Play you know, I think you do step into marginally higher risk in a situation where you're second choice vs first. that said, there are so many unknown variables - eg it could've been an influential person at the company who preferred the other candidate, and it turns out you won't actually work with this person much anyway. once you're on board it's unlikely they'd cut you to find someone they like 1% better or whatever, and you'll show them you can do the work.
if you're excited about the company, 20% is still a fine raise.
is this remote or in person, are you changing cities? and out the approx comp, is public or private stock a meaningful part of it? |
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Date: March 28th, 2025 1:26 PM Author: Nazca Redlines Not remote. Similar number of days in office and commute as current job. Both are "hybrid" and in the same city.
Current job is $250k base, $300k total. New job would be $250k base, $360k total. Stock is a bigger part of the new company's comp. It's a big, public company. |
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Date: March 28th, 2025 9:13 PM Author: Kenneth Play Thanks. I understand your reservation about this new piece of information. But after thinking about it another day, I wouldn't let this stop you from accepting it. You already must have had good reasons to look for new jobs, interview, get the offer, etc. I'd prefer Alexandra Daddario or whatever, and I shouldn't tell my wife this, but it wouldn't stop me from being in a healthy marriage. (I'm single you you get the point) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48792991) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: ( * ) ( * ) You are never anyone’s first choice in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789454) |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: Die Hard 2: Die Harder No because it doesn’t mean people had reservations about you. Can often mean there was a big time stud they were hoping for but he turned them down for Wachtell/Blackstone/Meta
Now if they took 6 weeks to get back to you, yes avoid. Someone didn’t like you. |
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Date: March 28th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: Nazca Redlines What do you mean about taking 6 weeks to get back to me? Why is that a sign of someone not liking me. The whole process was much longer than that:
Week 1: Apply Week 4: Screener Week 6: Interview with hiring manager Week 8: Interview with several team members Week 12: Interview with Deputy GC, get offer, learn that they had already offered someone else who declined, presumably between weeks 7 and 11
Other than the gap between week's 8 and 12, nothing seemed particularly slow. |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: PrestigeWhore This is dumb. There are infinite nonsensical reasons why they picked the other person over you.
Like maybe she had nice breasts and the guy making the decision liked them, and she declined because he was creepy (i.e. short). This means nothing with respect to you and your success in the role (unless you also have nice breasts, in which case post pics). |
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Date: March 27th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: Wilbur Mercer, permanently embarrassed millionaire (Safari) It would be very cucked to take the job under these circumstances. You will always be resented as a reminder that they missed out on their top guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5700678&forum_id=2#48789522) |