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Libs think trump is losing just because he’s losing 🤣

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote
bat-shit-crazy lettuce
  10/26/24
Date: October 26th, 2024 12:57 PM Author: queensbridge benz...
Blathering slate lodge patrolman
  10/26/24
Isn't the early vote usually much more in the democrat's fav...
azure provocative state
  10/26/24
Once they hit certain numbers it’s mathematically impo...
Claret Cerebral School Rigpig
  10/26/24
sad
passionate yellow location roast beef
  10/26/24
Yup. This country is done.
Claret Cerebral School Rigpig
  10/26/24
Why is he leading on the betting markets in all three?
azure provocative state
  10/26/24
Benzo, the resident math expert on the boart, is able to see...
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/large-bets-election-predict...
bat-shit-crazy lettuce
  10/26/24
Who gives a shit? It's people betting million$. Even if you ...
azure provocative state
  10/26/24
how did the betting markets do in 2020 and 2022 Trumptard?
onyx knife center
  10/26/24
To be fair, CR, honestly this election is 100% over from ...
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internet g0y
  04/29/25
yes, and their share of the EV is way down everywhere. dems ...
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
ELI5 why are Dem early voting numbers bad? I heard this from...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
NV: Reps have a 30K lead in returns. This is unprecedented, ...
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
So they're really hanging their hat on the idea that GOP vot...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
probably some truth to it, but there's also some banking of ...
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
Say trends continue with early voting advantage down for Dem...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
i think its an unknowable photo finish but you'd rather be t...
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
Don't you have to go through some kind of public trial in Ma...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
you just try to avoid discussing politics with people
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
I was making a joke hoap u thought it was a little funny
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
ty
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
To be fair, They're hanging their hats on the fact that T...
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  10/26/24
@NateSilver538 That the most hackish partisans on both side...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
He’s doing worse than in 2020 https://targetearly.t...
bat-shit-crazy lettuce
  10/26/24
Cope cope cope
Dun locus background story
  10/26/24
Coping is easier when you win
bat-shit-crazy lettuce
  10/26/24
this is "modeled data" not real data. the real dat...
tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
What is their fancy "model" that puts Democrats wa...
Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
The returned Republican ballots in Pennsylvania largely come...
bat-shit-crazy lettuce
  10/26/24
lol no
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Dashing Giraffe
  10/26/24
Trump's "theory of victory" is that more people vo...
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To be farr, We've missed you, faggot.
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tan razzle-dazzle box office
  10/26/24
benzo, this is modeling, not information.
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Date: October 26th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy lettuce

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243084)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:03 PM
Author: Blathering slate lodge patrolman

Date: October 26th, 2024 12:57 PM

Author: queensbridge benzo

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243084)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243108)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: azure provocative state

Isn't the early vote usually much more in the democrat's favor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243097)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:00 PM
Author: Claret Cerebral School Rigpig

Once they hit certain numbers it’s mathematically impossible for him to win. He basically lost GA, MI and PA. He’s completely done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243103)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: passionate yellow location roast beef

sad

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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:05 PM
Author: Claret Cerebral School Rigpig

Yup. This country is done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243113)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:09 PM
Author: azure provocative state

Why is he leading on the betting markets in all three?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243122)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:10 PM
Author: crystalline institution doctorate

Benzo, the resident math expert on the boart, is able to see trends everyone else can’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243124)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:15 PM
Author: plum swashbuckling piazza laser beams



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: Bearded reading party bbw



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:32 PM
Author: Dun locus background story



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:37 PM
Author: henna persian depressive



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:49 PM
Author: cracking set



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:13 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy lettuce

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/large-bets-election-prediction-market-are-overseas-source-says-2024-10-18/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243131)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:18 PM
Author: azure provocative state

Who gives a shit? It's people betting million$. Even if you think they're doing it to sway opinion, if people are certain she's gonna win, they would take the free money.

Polymarket was more accurate than polling last election

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243147)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:44 PM
Author: onyx knife center

how did the betting markets do in 2020 and 2022 Trumptard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243224)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:05 PM
Author: shimmering point gaming laptop

To be fair,

CR, honestly this election is 100% over from a mathematical perspective at this point. There's simply no way, mathematically speaking, for Trump to win at this point. It's kind of a waste of time and money to even hold the rest of the election IMO, we should probably all just admit that Kamala has already won and call it off at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243466)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: internet g0y



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:17 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

yes, and their share of the EV is way down everywhere. dems are hoping that repubs are cannibilizing their election day vote and that independents will swing dem. it seems to me that low propensity voters are not turning out for dems and i dont see that changing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243143)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:24 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

ELI5 why are Dem early voting numbers bad? I heard this from Mark Halperin. Are we really sure?

So Dems are now saying well we're winning independents and election day advantage for Trump will be down because all the same people voted early? And this is to explain why no one is voting early for Harris?

How do we know her early vote total is down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243160)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:33 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

NV: Reps have a 30K lead in returns. This is unprecedented, the Dems have historically always had a lead going into election day

PA: In 2020, Dems had a 1.1M advantage in early voter returns. They are only at 370K as of today, unlikely to hit 500K before election day.

NC: Absolute early voter advantage for Repubs, ahead of 2020.

AZ: Absolute early voter advantage for Repubs, ahead of 2020.

The other swing states are a bit of a black box, but rural turnout is generally very high, suggesting Trump's base is excited to turn out for him. Mixed results from urban areas suggest lower enthusiasm from Harris' base.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243189)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:42 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

So they're really hanging their hat on the idea that GOP voters simply moved to EV from ED. Is there any truth to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243220)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

probably some truth to it, but there's also some banking of votes of people who probably would just not bother going to the polls. trump will definitely win the in person election day vote, it's just a matter of how big the margin is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243222)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:50 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

Say trends continue with early voting advantage down for Democrats. And say the ED advantage for Trump is mild. Who wins or does it come down to an unknowable photo finish?

This idea about banking voters, ok so they're Trump voters who may or may not have actually made it to the polls on ED? It's just more accountability or something?

And then who are Trump ED voters? Seems like everyone got the message to go vote early. Who is waiting around for November 5th? I know the campaign is saying they're reaching out to stragglers. Is this real?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243240)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:56 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

i think its an unknowable photo finish but you'd rather be trump

as for early vote, you'd always rather bank the vote. say it rains on election day, or there's some event that makes getting to the polls difficult, turnout may be lower. relying on getting people to the polls on one day is always more sketchy.

i think the campaign is pushing EV this year, whereas in 2020 they were openly hostile to it. there's still a lot of gop voters who just prefer to vote on election day. i'm waiting for election day myself. but there is certainly some degree of cannibilization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243260)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:02 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

Don't you have to go through some kind of public trial in Mass if you vote Republican? They don't put you in a stockade or anything? I met a Republican from Mass once in my life ever he was from some place called "Leominster". I think he died and he said he was the last one. He was 100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243285)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

you just try to avoid discussing politics with people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243293)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

I was making a joke hoap u thought it was a little funny

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243302)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243309)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:07 PM
Author: shimmering point gaming laptop

To be fair,

They're hanging their hats on the fact that Trumpkins are now early voters (thus cannibalizing their election day returns), AND, ALSO, Democrat voters have abandoned early voting (meaning that they will have better historical election day returns than they have had in recent memory).

Suffice to say, the political science is settled on both of these indisputable facts, and you're a copium-huffing retarded Trumpkin if you say otherwise.

Source: Crackpipe/"I Made It Up" (he claimed, without evidence).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243468)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:30 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

@NateSilver538

That the most hackish partisans on both sides invariably think the early voting numbers are great for them tells you all you need to know about the utility of looking at early voting numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243177)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:31 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy lettuce

He’s doing worse than in 2020

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/g2024?calc_type=voteShare&count_prefix=current_eav_voted_count_&demo_filters=%5B%7B%22key%22%3A%22modeledParty%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22All%22%7D%5D&state=WI&view_type=state&vote_mode=1

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/g2024?calc_type=voteShare&count_prefix=current_eav_voted_count_&demo_filters=%5B%7B%22key%22%3A%22modeledParty%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22All%22%7D%5D&state=MI&view_type=state&vote_mode=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243183)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:33 PM
Author: Dun locus background story

Cope cope cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243191)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:45 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy lettuce

Coping is easier when you win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243226)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:34 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office

this is "modeled data" not real data. the real data we have in NV, PA and NC shows a huge improvement for trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243193)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 1:40 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

What is their fancy "model" that puts Democrats way ahead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243214)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:28 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy lettuce

The returned Republican ballots in Pennsylvania largely come from voters who cast a ballot in 2020, a sign that the early vote isn’t bringing new voters to the polls so much as cannibalizing the election day vote. This would be an especially good sign for Democrats, since the Trump theory of victory relies on first-time and low-propensity voters coming to the polls, according to Tom Bonier, the CEO of TargetSmart, a Democratic data firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243355)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 2:47 PM
Author: Claret Cerebral School Rigpig

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243413)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:04 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:32 PM
Author: fragrant frozen travel guidebook public bath

Trump's "theory of victory" is that more people vote for him than Kamala by any means. One of those is getting low propensity to his side or to stay home if they'd break D. Another is simply driving enthusiasm and turning out his high propensity base.

In every single swing state, Trump has pulled to within shooting distance or surpassed Kamala. The trend has been toward Trump, incontrovertibly.

We at this point really only have mail-in ballots requested, vote by mail returns, and polls to go by. Analysis of the former two has been almost entirely wishcasting on both sides. Probably the best you can do without larding up your analysis with largely or totally unsupported conclusions is vaguely ostend toward "where were we in the last cycle with this voting modality at this time" and just do arithmetic. There, things are looking good for Trump: generally, he has more than before. A theory of the data that somehow explains that away or actually concludes the inverse is literally paid-for advertising. At the same time, a theory that says that this surely guarantees a victory for Trump are also suspect: 2024 is different from 2022 and 2020. Republican attitudes have changed. Everything has changed, actually.

Comparing likely importantly different voter behavior to the, like, two germane data points (2020 and 2022)--arguably neither of which is actually relevant--is really likely to mislead everyone. Everyone with a stake in the election should be feeling, at this point, nothing other than vibes as it relates to early voter analysis.

As it relates to polls: at least we are doing more frequent sampling here, and polling methodology is not extremely different election-to-election (as voter behavior that models try to approximate is). Generally, polls undersample Republican voters of every propensity, and those not doing so are generally scrubbed out of models or written off as partisan poll-packing days before the election. "Kooky" groups like Rasmussen and Trafalgar, granted, are paid partisans. But even Nate Silver admits their average "miss" were among the smallest of the last two cycles. Generally, polls systematically overcount D and undercount R. That should worry the Ds.

Having said that, it seems as though pollsters are trimming back the monster misses from 2016. The most accurate pollster of the past two cycles has Trump leading in the general, almost beyond the MoE. That's wild. Big if true. But it also has very close battleground state results.

You're nuts if you don't think this is an extremely tight race. I personally think Trump sweeps the battlegrounds (maybe he loses MI), but I'm basing that on the only evidence that anyone actually has right now: gut and vibes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243548)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:37 PM
Author: shimmering point gaming laptop

To be farr,

We've missed you, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243560)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:37 PM
Author: fragrant frozen travel guidebook public bath

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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: Dashing Giraffe

I love men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243615)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: tan razzle-dazzle box office



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Date: October 26th, 2024 3:18 PM
Author: fragrant frozen travel guidebook public bath

benzo, this is modeling, not information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243492)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 5:12 PM
Author: Blathering slate lodge patrolman

ITT we lol at the dumbfounded felonious BALDMO OP staring at VOTER MODELING CHARTS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5618544&forum_id=2#48243892)



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Date: October 26th, 2024 9:17 PM
Author: topaz domesticated market skinny woman

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Date: November 6th, 2024 4:35 AM
Author: Blathering slate lodge patrolman



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