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LS GPA of 3.0. Put on resume? What's the cut off
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 1:54 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people what's the cut off where your law school gpa is too low to put on your resume? I've heard for UG if it's under a 3.0, leave it off. Is that true for law school as well. I have almost exactly a 3.0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147372) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 8:36 AM Author: bistre motley psychic tyft BLAST FROM THE PAST (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12148555) |
Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:04 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147522) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:06 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147546) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:08 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school I would put it because they are just going to ask anyway. Ur kind of screwed unless you go to a top school though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147550) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:08 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school edit - if you go to a really top school, don't put it, you might get interviews based on your school name alone. By really top, I mean top 10. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147554) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:09 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people Yeah I go to a top 10. Should I leave off my good college GPA also for consistency then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147567) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:11 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school I'm assuming your GPA is a 2.97 or something. I wouldn't put it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147581) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:14 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people It's actually a 3.04. Sucks to be close to a 3.1 but not be able to round up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147607) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:16 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school if ur gpa was a 3.06 you still shouldn't round up to a 3.1. most schools have rules specifically against stuff like that. 3.04 might still be high enough to get BIGLAW ITE, depending on the top 10. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147630) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:17 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people No big law for me. I summered at a big firm and was cut lose last spring. Just graduated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147643) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:21 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school what do you mean you were cut loose last spring?
You are class of 2009, so you summered in 2008, do you mean you were cut loose this spring? |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:23 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people Yeah, I meant this most recent spring, sorry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147703) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:24 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school sorry. so you had an offer and it got rescinded? has the firm helped you out in your job search? are they giving you any kind of severance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147719) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:27 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people yeah, I was in a practice area that the firm is basically closing. At least that's what I was told.
They've given me a few names but not much else. I don't think there is much they can do. Most of the people I worked with aren't there anymore either.
I got a small severance. Enough to live on frugally for a year |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:31 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school well at least you can live for a year! and at least they're not playing games with you by deferring for some long period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147789) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:33 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people Yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147814) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:11 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo if this is a serious question, don't put on anything lower than 3.3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147585) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:12 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school if this is a serious why would u give him a NOT-serious answer like that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147593) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:13 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo how is that "not" serious? lower than a 3.3 is nothing to be ashamed of, but nothing to be proud of either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147600) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:15 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school u still need to put it. if he doesn't put a 3.2 on his resume, they will assume it's a 2.8. It looks bad to not put ur gpa on ur resume when firms have specific cutoffs, thus it should only be done if ur gpa is below a 3.0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147620) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:16 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo you probably know more about this than me. i thought most ls's have a strict policy about this shit. back when i did OCI my GPA was good, so i listed it. now it's shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147628) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:18 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school I haven't been in OCI for years either, but I remember back then (I was class of 2008 so this was pre-ITE) people with below a 3.3 got BIGLAW at GW, and he's going to a T10. GW has a policy that you put your GPA if it's above a 3.0 and you must round up only to the nearest .01. We also didn't use class ranks then either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147645) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:19 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people I'm class of 09 and I'm using this in my job search, not oci (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147661) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:22 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school the same still holds true. even junior attorneys looking for jobs should put their gpa in the resume typically, unless as you say there is a school policy against it, but that should still be explained because it's unusual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147685) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:26 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo are you sure about this? ive talked to a couple of juniors who lateralled (pre-ITE) and they were stressing about whether firms would ask for transcripts as laterals. there's obviously no reason to stress about this if you're listing your GPA anyhow, so I assumed it wasn't standard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147736) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:30 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school yes, recruiters still inquire about ur gpa, etc. some firms will definitely ask for transcripts before making a final decision.
I think u r too focused on getting initial interviews. At some point they will ask for a transcript to find out your GPA. If you list your GPA they might not necessarily ask because they have the info. So decide whether you'd rather have them looking at your transcript and all your specific grades or not.
Also, a lot of these decisions come down to credentials, practice area needs, diversity hiring, etc. Getting your foot in the door to interview isn't going to change that. They will still care about your GPA just as much after the initial interview. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:32 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people right, people care about grades.
My question boils down to: are my resumes getting tossed because they are assuming my grades are worse than they actually are? |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:38 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school yes, to a degree they are, not that many though. 95% of the ones that are tossing you, would probably toss you if you put your GPA, 5% would be giving you interviews.
the point is: putting your GPA will get you a few more interviews that may lead to jobs.
leaving off your GPA will get you a few more interviews that will never lead to jobs once they find out your GPA. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:33 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo im not looking for interviews now (*knocks wood*), but since there are firms that don't ask for transcripts i always assumed i could still get a job somewhere if i wanted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147810) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:39 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school firms that don't ask for transcripts are few and far between. If you don't put GPA it is an even bigger incentive to ask for transcripts because they will want to know your GPA but don't want to ask directly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147866) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:40 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people even places that I have offered to work for free have asked for transcripts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147872) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:43 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school so don't you think you were being silly leaving off your GPA from your resume? do you think all these places would ask for transcripts if they didn't care about GPA? they're not looking at what classes you took. At the least, omitting a GPA looks evasive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147889) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:44 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people I was just following school policy but I started thinking it was dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147898) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:45 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo that's true ITE, but i don't think it was so much before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147912) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 12:44 PM Author: harsh sweet tailpipe According to my school you can NEVER EVER ROUND UP AT ALL, but you list two dec. places.
Thus, 3.299 = "3.29"
Shitty? |
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Date: June 13th, 2011 11:28 PM Author: Snowy mind-boggling national gaping i think almost every school is like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#18246490) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:13 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people my college GPA is high, my LS GPA is low. Should I put on the college GPA if I leave off the law school GPA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147602) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:14 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo doesn't your ls have a policy about GPAs and resumes? follow it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147611) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:15 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people Yeah, don't put it on ever. But I am in the real world, not OCI. And frankly this area of the country does not see that many top law school grads and so they probably are not aware that some schools have rules against putting down your gpa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147623) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:17 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo you probably shouldn't be taking my advice man. do you have real experience? if so, i wouldn't list. if not, i don't know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147639) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:18 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people summers only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147648) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:21 AM Author: nofapping adventurous water buffalo your guess is certainly as good as mine and probably better, especially if they don't usually see resumes from schools like yours. i would lean towards not but i could be completely wrong. theyll probably assume you're not supposed to list or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147679) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:20 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school If your school has a specific policy stating that you should not put GPA's on, you might want to make note of that in your resume or cover letter to these firms. If it's a very good school as you say, most good firms will probably know of this policy, but if you are applying to truly regional firms that never see people from your school as you indicate, then you will want to give them notice of this policy. this might actually save you, in terms of getting initial interviews at least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147666) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:23 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people I don't think that will really help. I just want to stay out of the "immediate rejection" pile. They will find out my grades soon enough by asking for a transcript.
Anyway it seems weird for a graduate to be so servile to a career services office, doesn't it? |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:25 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school I didn't realize you were a graduate when I posted that. You obviously don't have to follow school policies once you have graduated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147731) |
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Date: June 13th, 2011 11:37 PM Author: startled flirting kitty Like 20 schools in top 50 are on a 3.0 curve so that's BS. Any GPA over 3.0 you list, but really you should list even a 2.9 since they will see demand transcripts no matter what. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#18246581) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:35 AM Author: Razzmatazz peach digit ratio site i don't have my GPA, i just have "magna cum laude" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147833) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:38 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people oh so I should just put that instead, thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147853) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:40 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people Second question:
Do I put 3.0 or 3.04? what's the standard number of digits |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:43 AM Author: Obsidian fear-inspiring school 3.04 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147891) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 2:44 AM Author: Stirring crimson main people 3.04/4.00? or just 3.04 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12147903) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 7:36 PM Author: Exhilarant Headpube Azn 6.08/8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12173209) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 9:55 PM Author: splenetic dragon public bath Subject: for that matter just say you have a 3.98 and don't mention that it's on a 5.2368-point scale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12174417) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2009 10:39 AM Author: Rough-skinned frisky church mother if it's below 3.8, don't put it on. also, lie about it and doctor ur transcripts. that's what chicago tells their alums to do, and it seems to work out fine for them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12148692) |
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Date: June 13th, 2011 11:33 PM Author: federal orchestra pit this is the credited response. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#18246540) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 7:35 PM Author: Stirring crimson main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12173204) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 7:53 PM Author: Stirring crimson main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12173295) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 9:22 PM Author: Rusted gaped forum cumskin I remember some guy on here claiming he didn't put his gpa, and just interviewed at a ton of places. He got rejected by every place that asked his gpa, but eventually somebody didn't ask (forgot?), and he get a job with them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12174053) |
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Date: July 6th, 2009 11:25 PM Author: Stirring crimson main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1032876&forum_id=2#12175467) |
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