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Should I spend $2k on these floor speakers?

33% off https://emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-xt2-pair-fl...
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  12/01/25
should i buy these $2k speakers? https://us.kef.com/produ...
cerebral
  12/01/25
thats an absurd price for a pair of single driver bookshelf ...
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  12/01/25
what are the cr wireless speakers then?
cerebral
  12/01/25
Sonos
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Fuck no.
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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idk. there has to be dozens of options that aren't $2k. ther...
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  12/01/25
Klipsch The Nines (I posted a deal below)
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you’re paying for the case not the tech
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They're powered so factor that in. No need for an external ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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not a lot of passive wireless speakers.
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Well, you can turn any passive speakers into wireless speake...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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i didn't, you did. my response was essentially "no shit...
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  12/01/25
You're OP said "thats an absurd price for a pair of sin...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
in reference to a pair of wireless powered speakers. the ...
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  12/01/25
KEF speakers are generally premium products with premium pri...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/01/25
i am aware. in fact i sold KEF speakers for many years and i...
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  12/01/25
Get these instead: https://slickdeals.net/f/18886906-klipsch...
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No
~~(> ' ' )>
  12/01/25
Being into speakers and sound and shit has to be the gayest ...
Paralegal Mohammad
  12/01/25
its pretty gay, but being into watches is gayer
cerebral
  12/01/25
Whew. How about GAMING LAPTOPS and PERFORMANCE SUVS?
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lil sparky bark
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Fuck, I'm that guy.
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coiffed sandwich
  12/01/25
do not buy high-ticket audiophile equipment new
zarathustra
  12/01/25
This is one of the worst things to buy used. So much goes w...
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only if you buy made in chyna crap
OYT Magnus
  12/01/25
Even a lot of the high end stuff is, in fact, made in China ...
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  12/01/25
yeah and I don't buy it.
OYT Magnus
  12/01/25
good audiophile equipment is notoriously robust and is very ...
zarathustra
  12/01/25
Powered speakers are significantly more complex than passive...
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if it wasn't clear i am advocating for passive speakers for ...
zarathustra
  12/01/25
Ok fair enough. That's a pretty significant caveat though.
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https://www.usaudiomart.com/ enjoy
zarathustra
  12/01/25
Agree. Have two sets of used Ohm Walsh speakers. Like new an...
OldHLSDude
  12/01/25
lol same secretly i admit they are overhyped by their cul...
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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.


33% off

https://emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-xt2-pair-floorstanding-tower-loudspeakers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49473997)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: cerebral

should i buy these $2k speakers?

https://us.kef.com/products/ls50-wireless-2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49473998)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

thats an absurd price for a pair of single driver bookshelf speakers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474013)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: cerebral

what are the cr wireless speakers then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474048)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.


Sonos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474052)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Fuck no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474593)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

idk. there has to be dozens of options that aren't $2k. theres just no way a pair of single driver, wireless powered speakers could ever be "worth" $2k. fwiw i used to be in audiophile stereo sales and have a high threshold for tolerating high-end gear being "worth it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474329)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Klipsch The Nines (I posted a deal below)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474594)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.


you’re paying for the case not the tech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474051)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


They're powered so factor that in. No need for an external amp or streamer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474499)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

not a lot of passive wireless speakers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474582)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Well, you can turn any passive speakers into wireless speakers you just have to buy the equipment (the amp, usually a separate streamer but these days some amps have that built in). But then you need to match the amp to the speakers, you have added bulk, etc. That's why you don't compare powered speakers to passive speakers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474591)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

i didn't, you did. my response was essentially "no shit, of course they're active"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474620)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


You're OP said "thats an absurd price for a pair of single driver bookshelf speakers" - most of these are not powered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474624)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

in reference to a pair of wireless powered speakers.

the amp inside of them could not possible account for the cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474639)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


KEF speakers are generally premium products with premium pricing for every product range.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474810)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)

i am aware. in fact i sold KEF speakers for many years and its one of my favorite brands. these seem absurdly overpriced still, and there are lots of KEF products much more expensive than these i would say are a good value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474828)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Get these instead: https://slickdeals.net/f/18886906-klipsch-the-nines-wireless-active-bookshelf-speakers-850-free-s-h?src=SiteSearch

I have them and they're great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474515)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474635)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!)

Being into speakers and sound and shit has to be the gayest hobby out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474514)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: cerebral

its pretty gay, but being into watches is gayer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474564)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Whew. How about GAMING LAPTOPS and PERFORMANCE SUVS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474572)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: lil sparky bark



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474566)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Fuck, I'm that guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474570)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: coiffed sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474819)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: zarathustra

do not buy high-ticket audiophile equipment new

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474655)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


This is one of the worst things to buy used. So much goes wrong with these things and when they start acting up people try to sell them before they die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474808)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

only if you buy made in chyna crap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474832)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:42 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Even a lot of the high end stuff is, in fact, made in China these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474903)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: OYT Magnus ( )

yeah and I don't buy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474956)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: zarathustra

good audiophile equipment is notoriously robust and is very slow to depreciate outside of pieces that are obviously subject to faster obsolescence like transports or active speakers with more tech inside.

but you don't even have to accept that premise. you can get one or two year old equipment for any level of quality you're looking for at 30-50% off retail price if you buy from the used sites. these aren't cars with thousands of moving parts, speakers and amps that are cared for well are almost as good as new after a year or two of use. but new speakers drop in price as if you were driving the car off the lot. no sense in buying new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474888)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:42 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Powered speakers are significantly more complex than passive speakers and they don't work as passive speakers if the electronics die (and those die fairly quickly). Yes, those B&O speakers from the 1970s still look and sound great. But the new shit can have 1000 problems that those can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474901)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: zarathustra

if it wasn't clear i am advocating for passive speakers for exactly that reason

i am not suggesting 1970s speakers i am suggesting buying speakers made in 2022 for 40% off msrp from some desperate audiophile boomer bullied into downsizing by his wrinkly shrew wife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474914)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Ok fair enough. That's a pretty significant caveat though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474920)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:47 PM
Author: zarathustra

https://www.usaudiomart.com/

enjoy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474928)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: OldHLSDude

Agree. Have two sets of used Ohm Walsh speakers. Like new and much discounted. Really like them.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474966)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: zarathustra

lol same

secretly i admit they are overhyped by their cult following and half of their famous soundstage is just the sacrifice in imaging due to being omnidirectional. but they are great for some genres.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49475027)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: NSAM's Schizoid Conspiracy Advent Calendar (gunneratttt)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804700&forum_id=2#49474922)