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Realtalk: Is Social Security going to be around when we retire? No one agrees

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adventurous onyx potus
  04/26/18
YES jfc
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
it will be around. we'll still be paying it. just won't be g...
Mauve Floppy Spot Scourge Upon The Earth
  04/26/18
yep, can you imagine in what? 30 years? automation ... more ...
Stirring metal locale messiness
  04/26/18
Substantially means tested, you'll never see a fucking dime,...
Stirring metal locale messiness
  04/26/18
It will be around, however, don't expect it to cover even a ...
sepia nibblets
  04/26/18
fuck no
Curious private investor trump supporter
  04/26/18
It'll be a nationwide lotto
flushed know-it-all immigrant
  04/26/18
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slate parlor liquid oxygen
  04/26/18
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Electric Gay Wizard Kitty
  04/26/18
please note only retards ITT say no. Why is that?
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
But you said yes
sepia nibblets
  04/26/18
the whole "SS will be gone in five years" or "...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Uh are you fucking dull? It’s very true that we’re going to...
sepia nibblets
  04/26/18
I first heard this when I was 20. It comes up every five ye...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
So you really are like 50 now?
sepia nibblets
  04/26/18
I'm not that old. but I'm old enough to see conturd prole p...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/07/23/whos-ready-for-a-...
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
yes--the article is designed to rile conturds up. the same a...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Motley fool is a “contard” site in your view. Ok lol
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
no but the writer of the article--from 2017 ahead of electio...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/tr/2017/tr2017.pdf
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
again, its literally every five years or so that this comes ...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Yes clearly the SS trustees are trying to “gin up the proles...
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
your just being stupid now. as I said, ive already pwned yo...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Yes blacks and Mexicans are going to make up the gap in soci...
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
Is that what I said? That doesn't quite seem to be what ive...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Come back when you have something to back up your claims
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
actually, the way things work is its really you who would ne...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
More conjecture from a complete moron. Not worth my time.
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
lol are you a man? if so take it like one instead of turnin...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated Perhaps...
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
Take your pwning like a man, please.
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
you’ve never pwned anyone on here little guy
Cerebral philosopher-king
  04/26/18
Quantify the cut.
titillating black sound barrier
  04/26/18
(only retard ITT)
disturbing flesh generalized bond
  04/26/18
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Electric Gay Wizard Kitty
  04/26/18
There will *always* be SS as long as people are paying into ...
razzle-dazzle sanctuary party of the first part
  04/26/18
It's a legal Ponzi scheme.
sepia nibblets
  04/26/18
Exactly. It's the literal definition of a Ponzi scheme--sen...
brass church building pocket flask
  04/26/18
So it was mandatory to participate in Shkreli's scheme? Wer...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Excellent points. Like I said, Shkreli's "scheme" ...
brass church building pocket flask
  04/26/18
"when we retire"
red jew
  04/26/18
well, there's that ...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
Go on SSDI and you can collect it fully right now
big-titted point
  04/26/18
Gotta qualify bro. But that shit is hard. that's a har...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
shut the fuck up you boomer faggot youre like 55 years old
Chocolate 180 Knife
  04/26/18
nope
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
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Curious private investor trump supporter
  04/26/18
Yes, along with the unicorns
Swashbuckling Resort Newt
  04/26/18
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adventurous onyx potus
  04/26/18
Basic arithmetic and forecasting skills allow an 105 IQ pers...
concupiscible blathering orchestra pit
  04/26/18
and it will. and it does. like, every time. it's part of,...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
we will have universal basic income by then people
arousing chad stain
  04/26/18
we have to lose the American christer voting block before th...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
of course not
Bipolar Set
  04/26/18
seems like no one on xo agrees either
adventurous onyx potus
  04/26/18
what is with you spaceporn? general consensus is that you'll...
Multi-colored orange brunch
  04/26/18
general consensus is its not going anywhere. General boa...
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
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Electric Gay Wizard Kitty
  04/26/18
fuck. yr right.
massive comical parlour
  04/26/18
guy who enjoys first world pension benefits here, sup
Mewling diverse hell
  04/26/18
Flame, elder South Koreans kill themselves in record numbers...
sepia nibblets
  04/27/18
isn't social security like $1300/mo? who the fuck cares
Vibrant Swollen Toilet Seat
  04/27/18


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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: adventurous onyx potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35925941)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

YES jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926410)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Mauve Floppy Spot Scourge Upon The Earth

it will be around. we'll still be paying it. just won't be getting any of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926413)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Stirring metal locale messiness

yep, can you imagine in what? 30 years? automation ... more stratification ... there's no way this will be a stable country anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926416)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Stirring metal locale messiness

Substantially means tested, you'll never see a fucking dime, even though it'll exist, of course, for the blacks (and poors at least)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926415)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: sepia nibblets

It will be around, however, don't expect it to cover even a subsistence level standard of living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926423)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Curious private investor trump supporter

fuck no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926424)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: flushed know-it-all immigrant

It'll be a nationwide lotto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926431)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: slate parlor liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926709)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Electric Gay Wizard Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926434)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

please note only retards ITT say no. Why is that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926436)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: sepia nibblets

But you said yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926446)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

the whole "SS will be gone in five years" or "ten years" or whatever thing is trotted out as a conturd talking point to rile up the foxnews base now and then. that's all it is. come on people use that blob between yr ears once in a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926458)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: sepia nibblets

Uh are you fucking dull? It’s very true that we’re going to have a surging elder population and a shrinking working age population and we can expect to receive back far less than what we paid in, and will receive less in benefits. Not to mention people live WAY beyond 65 today and fewer kids are being born. The system has a lot of problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926490)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

I first heard this when I was 20. It comes up every five years or so. It is literally conturd retard bait. you'll see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926498)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: sepia nibblets

So you really are like 50 now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926510)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

I'm not that old. but I'm old enough to see conturd prole pearl clutching on this subject twice a decade or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926517)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/07/23/whos-ready-for-a-23-cut-to-their-social-security-b.aspx?utm_medium=amp&utm_source=google

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926469)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

yes--the article is designed to rile conturds up. the same articles have been published every few years usually in a "get out the vote" thing to "rein in govt spending" etc. Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated, but SS isn't going anywhere and will be around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926493)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

Motley fool is a “contard” site in your view. Ok lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926497)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

no but the writer of the article--from 2017 ahead of elections-- probably is.

Also, odd case, he seems to be pushing retirement and investment planning as a consequence of this alleged shortfall to SS. On the Motley Fool? Who would have thought!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926506)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/tr/2017/tr2017.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926583)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

again, its literally every five years or so that this comes up. Gins up the proles and retards. What more can I say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926595)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

Yes clearly the SS trustees are trying to “gin up the proles”. Makes sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926609)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

your just being stupid now. as I said, ive already pwned you.

This is the history--every so often the allocations and funding for SS is modified such that the program remains solvent.

(Also, fwiw and as an interesting little bit of cognitive dissonance for you--you know where a lot of the additional SS funding comes from? blacks and Mexicans. they die before they get to claim much of it. Or they pay in for years but cant claim it as illegals. A shocker, isn't it.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926663)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

Yes blacks and Mexicans are going to make up the gap in social security makes a lot of sense. Any actual evidence that refutes the SS trustees report?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926680)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

Is that what I said? That doesn't quite seem to be what ive said. its almost like you've been pwned and try to resort to straw man shit in the well founded hopes that other boart conturds wont realize what you've done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926693)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

Come back when you have something to back up your claims

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926700)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

actually, the way things work is its really you who would need to back up the claim that somehow this assessed shortfall is any different than any other time this has been made into an issue and cant be cured the same as it always has been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926726)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

More conjecture from a complete moron. Not worth my time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926735)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

lol are you a man? if so take it like one instead of turning into a little bitch until you can run off this thread in ignominy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926748)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

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Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

Perhaps the payouts will be less than anticipated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926594)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

Take your pwning like a man, please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926599)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Cerebral philosopher-king

you’ve never pwned anyone on here little guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926605)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: titillating black sound barrier

Quantify the cut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927580)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: disturbing flesh generalized bond

(only retard ITT)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926491)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Electric Gay Wizard Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926499)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sanctuary party of the first part

There will *always* be SS as long as people are paying into it. It just means it'll pay about ~75% of the benefits of what it might be projected, and it might drop if there are more retirees and fewer workers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926448)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: sepia nibblets

It's a legal Ponzi scheme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926452)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: brass church building pocket flask

Exactly. It's the literal definition of a Ponzi scheme--senior investors are paid from the contributions of junior investors.

Martin Shkreli did the same thing (frankly, not even as bad), and he's in prison for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926503)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

So it was mandatory to participate in Shkreli's scheme? Were the rates of return as enticing? Did fraudulent misrepresentation play a part? Totally the same. Not a dumb fuck here, no sirree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926746)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: brass church building pocket flask

Excellent points. Like I said, Shkreli's "scheme" wasn't nearly as sketchy as social "security"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35928372)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: red jew

"when we retire"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926475)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

well, there's that ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926524)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: big-titted point

Go on SSDI and you can collect it fully right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926561)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

Gotta qualify bro.

But that shit is hard. that's a hard life, man, tryina live on that paltry sum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926576)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: Chocolate 180 Knife

shut the fuck up you boomer faggot youre like 55 years old

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926685)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926699)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Curious private investor trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926681)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Resort Newt

Yes, along with the unicorns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926558)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: adventurous onyx potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926570)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: concupiscible blathering orchestra pit

Basic arithmetic and forecasting skills allow an 105 IQ person to realize something has to give in our fiscal future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926592)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

and it will. and it does. like, every time. it's part of, you know, what tax allocations do. You know, the govt ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926608)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: arousing chad stain

we will have universal basic income by then people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926694)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

we have to lose the American christer voting block before that could ever happen here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926756)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Bipolar Set

of course not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35926758)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: adventurous onyx potus

seems like no one on xo agrees either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927106)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Multi-colored orange brunch

what is with you spaceporn? general consensus is that you'll never see it

you keep arguing for some reason they're wrong

ok you have an agenda, so what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927108)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

general consensus is its not going anywhere.

General boart consensus which is .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent of general consensus is that it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927624)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:10 PM
Author: Electric Gay Wizard Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927849)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: massive comical parlour

fuck. yr right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927964)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: Mewling diverse hell

guy who enjoys first world pension benefits here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35927229)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: sepia nibblets

Flame, elder South Koreans kill themselves in record numbers bc they have no social safety net.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35930651)



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Date: April 27th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Vibrant Swollen Toilet Seat

isn't social security like $1300/mo? who the fuck cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960679&forum_id=2#35930658)