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Anyone watch Under Siege (1992): seems so easy to take over a Navy ship
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:10 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king Even though the XO was a traitor, he was the only turncoat. The plot seemed unreasonable: doesn't a battleship even on a skeleton crew have tons of weapons, Marines, sailors who would fight back (other than just the Cook/SEAL S.Seagal) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47727911) |
Date: June 7th, 2024 6:11 PM Author: Impertinent field stain (Casey Fucking Ryback) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47727913) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:16 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king That was another ridiculous angle. He was a Navy Chief PO and the XO treats him like dogshit: there would be more military courtesy between the two (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47727931) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 10:46 PM Author: claret selfie rigpig (Gunnery Sergeant Thomas Highway) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728692) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 11:14 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king the redhead ensign in the beginning reminded me of XO poasters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728744) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:21 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Z00Nq7StQ
You couldn't take care of a wetdream |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:34 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king its amazing the level of disrespect and junkie-ism present in the post-'Nam military
i bet rising in the ranks was the easiest thing in the world |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:39 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area the irony is that the end of Nam in 73, the draft in 75 and the professionalization of the military made for an incredibly professional and effective conventional force by 85 that could've held back and (most-likely) defeated the Red Army hordes in a central european slug fest.
The lop-sided Gulf War 1 results are the direct fruit of those efforts |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:41 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king I think there was a cleaning up of all the fuckheads who stayed on afterwards (i.e., the Recon Marines in Heartbreak Ridge)
There were also racial issues that needed to be cleaned up in the immediate post-Nam military
But at the same time the human capital wasn't that great, esp in the officer corps, even if the heart was in the right place. I think USMA took every qualified candidate in like 79' or something, guys who became field grade in the 90s and beyond |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:53 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area fairpoint w/r/t the caliber of the officer corps entrance classes from 73-78 (ironically, Mattis was part of that cadre). Thankfully they had enough subsequent real-combat experience and the huge 78-90 conventional force buildup to separate the wheat from the chaff.
most of the fuckheads (draftees) were out by 76. This movie was made in 86 and is supposed to be 83. At that point you had an all-volunteer professional force for 7+ years. Most were in it for the GI Bill and/or a career. |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:03 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king i think the force you note in 85' that was rock solid was the NCO Corps, particularly in the Army/Marines. the senior NCOs there were ones who had seen actual combat against decent enemies (i.e., Vietnam) and decided to make a commitment to the military.
Mattis' heart is in the right place. There's some shade about how he's probably gay but even if he is, it seems like it never led to anything (and I respect a gay man even more who rejects his urges).
At the same time, he's just not a thinker. Despite the warrior monk moniker, he just is over his head when it comes to higher level analysis of policy, politics, or future military strategy. That sort of typifies the flag officers we have now who are coming from that era
As to the leadership amongst officers (even NCOs) we're gonna get in like 20-30 years, God help us |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:10 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area your point about the NCO corps is spot on. the careerists who started out a teenage draftees in Vietnam created some of the finest ground combat forces ever fielded.
w/r/t Mattis, read his book "Call Sign Chaos". It's breezy and business school-style, but very enjoyable |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 7:15 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king i'll read it.
i have to admit i have a little bit of a bias against Mattis based on what little I know about him (which is taken with a grain of salt, as it is all hearsay from others. i never met or served w the guy)
like that incident that was popularized on Generation Kill. where he took the pistol/ammo (?) from Col Dowdy seemed like it was just showmanship. an Army unit was chewed up in Nasiriyah right beforehand; Dowdy wanted to show caution, Mattis didn't. usually these things turn out OK because our enemies--like the Iraqis in OIF--were pretty incompetent. but doctrinally, we did a lot of retarded and reckless shit, including invading with an undermanned force for the task.
IRL i wouldn't say this as its kind of a woman thing to do but it's xo so whatever. he's very good at charming the brass from what i heard. maybe thats the gay flamboyant side of him. i also heard rumors too that during his teenage hitchhiking years, he must have been groomed by some older men leading to his homosexuality. |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:31 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tuH7XcHYnc
This would absolutely never happen in the Navy unless it became a clownshow |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:33 PM Author: Histrionic vengeful property Have you seen what DEI has done to the Navy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47727994) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:40 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king Yeah but are the Homos punching field grade officers in the face? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728012) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:41 PM Author: Histrionic vengeful property Probably not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728019) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 6:48 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king you gotta be Casey Fucking Ryback to do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728047) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 7:12 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728107) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 7:20 PM Author: Lascivious citrine kitty travel guidebook assuming gary busey and tommy lee jones got all their mercenaries on that boat without suspicion youd probably need four or five steven segall's to get the navy out of it in 2024 america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728119) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 7:24 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king Even in 1992 America the motley crew of sailors he frees that helps him are like a black guy, fat dude, effeminate guy, etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728129) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 10:43 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728689) |
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Date: June 7th, 2024 11:31 PM Author: cerebral jew Birthday cake scene, UNGHHHHHHHHHHH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728769) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 12:15 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728814) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:24 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area definitely rewound that one a few times on the old blockbuster vhs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47736521) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 12:54 AM Author: flesh nudist step-uncle's house prole People thought our military was a joke in the 1980s and well into the 1990s. They made all kinds of movies like Stripes that poked fun at the military and made it look like shit. In Red Dawn we couldn't defend against a Russian invasion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728859) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 1:15 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king It seems like a boomer Vietnam war reaction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47728881) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 7:50 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47729115) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 2:11 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king I will rewatch this movie every day until I get some scholarship from poasters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47729757) |
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Date: June 8th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47730046) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:16 AM Author: dull locale philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47736513) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:20 AM Author: Multi-colored rough-skinned area All you need is a stripper in a birthday cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47736518) |
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Date: June 11th, 2024 6:40 AM Author: Mewling glittery location RICHIE ANYBODY KNOW RICHIE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5538002&forum_id=2#47736544) |