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ITT: Carl Spackler's OFFICIAL male strength guidelines

if you are a man, you must be able to: overhead press 200...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
i can do all these except the pullups
sexy coffee pot chad
  12/13/09
yea the pullups were kind of arbitrary. good job though. you...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
... the issue is that most people who can do the rest of the...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
not really
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
of these i can only do the pullups
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
those better be legit form man... i can't recall ever seeing...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
they're hard but doable if you eat you're wheaties and progr...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
lol I should clarify - I mean the type of form we were sa...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
shoulder width pronated grip IS the pullup. the wide-ass gri...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
ok, well... never mind then, I can do 20 pullups
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
cool
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
well with the wide grip i can probably only do 15 max, but i...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
ok, yeah, man, that's what I was saying - and locking out to...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
well i don't consider the different grips cheating, although...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
serious man? i always hate seeing it - and yeah, i do the w...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
to be honest, at my gym i don't see many people doing chin- ...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
lol, yeah - I think at the gym I'm at right now about 3/4 of...
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
yeah, it's probably the case everywhere. I'm no weightliftin...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
don't hate on kipping pullups though. they're legit for pull...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
i got you buddy
shimmering haunted graveyard
  12/13/09
I can do none of these except the pullups
Pale Potus
  12/19/09
is this flame?
offensive shrine sex offender
  12/13/09
lol, what the fuck do you think?
submissive indian lodge electric furnace
  12/13/09
maybe i haven't been around long enough. i can never figure...
offensive shrine sex offender
  12/13/09
tcr
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
ok, i get it now. haha
offensive shrine sex offender
  12/13/09
no
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
what kind of steroids man
the penis
  12/13/09
whole milk
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
sounds perfectly reasonable.
submissive indian lodge electric furnace
  12/13/09
agreed.
trip brilliant state
  12/13/09
Why? Women don't really care about this stuff.
Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete
  12/13/09
for physical fitness and usefulness
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
I don't think that much physical strength is useful in moder...
Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete
  12/13/09
you will be healthier and carry more lean muscle mass. you w...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
I am rail thin and don't work out. That is sufficient for me...
Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete
  12/13/09
Great for the heart and dozens of other health aspects as we...
samoth
  12/13/09
Some people just like to push themselves and don't give a fu...
samoth
  12/13/09
tcr
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
What if we don't train overhead movements? I haven't even do...
samoth
  12/13/09
if you can deadlift 500# you probably have excellent grip st...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
Many people use these "strap" things. I think s...
samoth
  12/13/09
yeah, i meant without the straps. I only deadlift about 300#...
vigorous tan church shitlib
  12/13/09
Pin pulls, dude. Start high and go down a pin every week or ...
samoth
  12/13/09
these numbers are for legal lifts why no overhead presses...
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
I'm a PLer. I never do OH movements. Rarely see other PLers ...
samoth
  12/13/09
not worried about strength imbalances in the shoulder??
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
I'm a triceps bencher, so I've only ever worried about techn...
samoth
  12/13/09
alright cool man
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
i cant do any of these. fuck... where do i hand in my penis?
Histrionic unhinged trailer park ceo
  12/13/09
five alive! is waiting
flushed filthpig
  12/13/09
yeah but how many pushups throughout the course of a day? i...
vermilion pontificating set dysfunction
  12/13/09
fuck that. I'd set the bar much lower overhead press 155l...
motley dingle berry
  12/19/09
those numbers arent bad either. i dunno. i think mine repres...
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
http://strippeddownhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pow...
canary confused market
  12/19/09
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=945963&mc=6&...
Talented Cuckold
  12/19/09
wtf, 180
canary confused market
  12/19/09
no u
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
what
canary confused market
  12/19/09
explain
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
explain what
canary confused market
  12/19/09
not sure
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
Lame, should be bodyweight based. Here's a cool list h...
Lascivious Mustard Casino Messiness
  12/19/09
ehhhh not so sure about that people should achieve absolu...
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
thats pretty dumb, man
wild hunting ground
  12/19/09
wtf? you're pretty dumb, man
flushed filthpig
  12/19/09
no way man.
wild hunting ground
  12/19/09
lol at fags who think anyone cares how much weight they lift...
mind-boggling library mood
  12/19/09
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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:14 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

if you are a man, you must be able to:

overhead press 200lbs

bench 300lbs

squat 400lbs

deadlift 500lbs

perform 20 pullups

once you can do this, you may participate in any other athletic activity, so long as you do not go below these numbers. otherwise stfu.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543357)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:17 PM
Author: sexy coffee pot chad

i can do all these except the pullups

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543427)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:18 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

yea the pullups were kind of arbitrary. good job though. you are a man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543436)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:19 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

... the issue is that most people who can do the rest of the numbers there can do 4-5 real pullups tops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543446)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

not really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543478)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:19 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

of these i can only do the pullups

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543455)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:20 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

those better be legit form man... i can't recall ever seeing someone do 20 legit (seriously)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543467)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

they're hard but doable if you eat you're wheaties and program them correctly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543498)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:24 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

lol

I should clarify - I mean the type of form we were saying the other day, a little wider than shoulders. If you're using chinup distance and just turning your hands the other way 20's not so so bad (I think I could hit it, actually)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543546)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:25 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

shoulder width pronated grip IS the pullup. the wide-ass grip is something invented by stupid health spas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543577)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

ok, well... never mind then, I can do 20 pullups



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543590)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543594)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

well with the wide grip i can probably only do 15 max, but i can do about 20 on a narrow grip

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543500)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:25 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

ok, yeah, man, that's what I was saying - and locking out totally, and clearing the chin on each rep, and not swaying the body. it's insane how many people at my gym cheat, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543559)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:27 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

well i don't consider the different grips cheating, although i mostly do the wide grip since it's harder. definitely lock out, clear chin, etc. though. people cheating on pullups is one of the less lulzy things i see at my gym though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543611)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:32 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

serious man? i always hate seeing it - and yeah, i do the wide grip to start, then deadlift/chinup supersets then deadlift/neutral grip supersets... it's killer man.

what else do you see? what i see:

- the only other dudes i ever see besides me doing weighted chinups will literally end up moving about six inches during each chinup... then act all exhausted after doing sets of 12 like that

- i'd say 80% of people squat hips to halway up their thihg, instead of hips to knees

- 20-30% bench by bringing the bar halfway down, then pushing it up

-40% military press that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543676)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:39 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

to be honest, at my gym i don't see many people doing chin- or pullups; it's usually people who have some idea of what they're doing.

I do see people doing the most RIDICULOUS things in the squat racks, like doing weak-ass modified pushups by basically leaning against the bar at a 45 degree angle and pushing off -- no joke

half-squats are highly prevalent, as are doods on roids putting like 900 lbs on the leg press and then only doing it halfway while screaming

also, any use of that calf-raise machine

people doing standing db curls but swinging and contorting their body and using inertia from this to get the db up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543761)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:43 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

lol, yeah - I think at the gym I'm at right now about 3/4 of people who do legs don't squat, they jsut use machines (and even with those go about half extension). I'm actually about to move, and I've already been to the gym I'll go to at my new place... there it's even worse, man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543823)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:47 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

yeah, it's probably the case everywhere. I'm no weightlifting expert, by any means, and I try not to let it get to me unless someone is taking up the squat rack with some faggotry. One day I just want my own rack & set of weights... would be so much more convenient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543868)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:39 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

don't hate on kipping pullups though. they're legit for pullup assistance or metcon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543765)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:42 PM
Author: shimmering haunted graveyard

i got you buddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543803)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:29 PM
Author: Pale Potus

I can do none of these except the pullups

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598018)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:19 PM
Author: offensive shrine sex offender

is this flame?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543448)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: submissive indian lodge electric furnace

lol, what the fuck do you think?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543480)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:25 PM
Author: offensive shrine sex offender

maybe i haven't been around long enough. i can never figure out whether this board's obsession with weightlifting is real or not. i suspect that it's at least partially in earnest--most dudes who are really into weight lifting in their mid 20s are either professional athletes or guys who were nerdy in high school and lack self-confidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543565)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543583)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: offensive shrine sex offender

ok, i get it now. haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543600)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543485)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:20 PM
Author: the penis

what kind of steroids man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543475)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

whole milk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543488)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: submissive indian lodge electric furnace

sounds perfectly reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543487)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: trip brilliant state

agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543496)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:21 PM
Author: Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete

Why? Women don't really care about this stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543493)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:22 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

for physical fitness and usefulness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543505)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:23 PM
Author: Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete

I don't think that much physical strength is useful in modern society unless you are a manual laborer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543526)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:25 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

you will be healthier and carry more lean muscle mass. you will stay thin with far less time in the gym once you can achieve these numbers. strength is the most generalized athletic area - the best way to improve power, endurance, etc is to get strong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543564)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: Learning disabled exciting goal in life keepsake machete

I am rail thin and don't work out. That is sufficient for me. I'm female, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543597)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:28 PM
Author: samoth

Great for the heart and dozens of other health aspects as well. Aging better than peers is another perk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543629)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:25 PM
Author: samoth

Some people just like to push themselves and don't give a fuck what society or anyone else thinks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543566)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543588)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:24 PM
Author: samoth

What if we don't train overhead movements? I haven't even do direct bicep work in half a decade.

Also, I think grip strength is highly credited here. Metric?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543539)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:24 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

if you can deadlift 500# you probably have excellent grip strength

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543556)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:27 PM
Author: samoth

Many people use these "strap" things.

I think static barbell holds or 10-rep pin pulls of 125x max DL would be a decent metric. I've never tried any CoC grippers, so I don't know how credited closing one of those would be here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543607)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:29 PM
Author: vigorous tan church shitlib

yeah, i meant without the straps. I only deadlift about 300#, i think my grip strength is actually holding me back so I should familiarize myself with some grip exercises

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543642)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:41 PM
Author: samoth

Pin pulls, dude. Start high and go down a pin every week or two.

PROTIP: Competitive powerlifters rarely perform standard deadlifts outside of competition; instead, they use a variety of similar exercises, partial or full, that simulate the various motions of the DL. Try focussing more on pin pulls, chain-suspended good mornings, reverse hypers and other heavy exercises that strengthen the "DL muscles", including grip strength.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543785)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:40 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

these numbers are for legal lifts

why no overhead presses? pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543779)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:44 PM
Author: samoth

I'm a PLer. I never do OH movements. Rarely see other PLers do them, either. Seems that it's more limited to oly lifters, IME. I'd probably dislocate my shoulders if I mixed heavy OHPs with my bench regimes. (TBF, I naturally suck at benching and OHP; it's probably easier for someone with a better upper body and shoulder area.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543834)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:47 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

not worried about strength imbalances in the shoulder??



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543864)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:52 PM
Author: samoth

I'm a triceps bencher, so I've only ever worried about technical form, speed, and lockout. It's super easy for me to overtrain my tris doing 3x/week pushing/tri stuff, so overheads would require a total change in training style (I use a modified Westside/Metal Militia routine).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543944)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:53 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

alright cool man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543950)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:24 PM
Author: Histrionic unhinged trailer park ceo

i cant do any of these. fuck... where do i hand in my penis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543550)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:26 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

five alive! is waiting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543592)



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Date: December 13th, 2009 11:33 PM
Author: vermilion pontificating set dysfunction

yeah but how many pushups throughout the course of a day? i really think that's the true test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13543689)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 3:24 PM
Author: motley dingle berry

fuck that. I'd set the bar much lower

overhead press 155lbs

bench 225lbs

squat 315lbs

deadlift 400lbs

perform 15 pullups

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597554)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 3:32 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

those numbers arent bad either. i dunno. i think mine represent what most men could get to with a lot of hard lfiting and heavy eating over a couple years and maintain even when lean and/or participating in activities like 5ks or weekly hoops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597610)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:02 PM
Author: canary confused market

http://strippeddownhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/powerliftercropped.jpg

that is how i imagine spackler to look like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597811)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:08 PM
Author: Talented Cuckold

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=945963&mc=6&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597860)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:09 PM
Author: canary confused market

wtf, 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597866)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:09 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

no u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597872)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:10 PM
Author: canary confused market

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597875)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:10 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597881)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:10 PM
Author: canary confused market

explain what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597885)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:25 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

not sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13597981)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:35 PM
Author: Lascivious Mustard Casino Messiness

Lame, should be bodyweight based.

Here's a cool list

http://www.crossfitseattle.com/Skill%20Levels%20poster.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598065)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:38 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

ehhhh not so sure about that

people should achieve absolute numbers and then worry about getting to a certain bodyweight, not the other way around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598082)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 5:23 PM
Author: wild hunting ground

thats pretty dumb, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598395)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 5:25 PM
Author: flushed filthpig

wtf? you're pretty dumb, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598408)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 5:35 PM
Author: wild hunting ground

no way man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598481)



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Date: December 19th, 2009 4:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling library mood

lol at fags who think anyone cares how much weight they lift. Being friendly, funny and non-douchy smart >>>>>> moving around heavy things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#13598137)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: fjordsman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1164342&forum_id=2#50226375)