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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Fragrant deep church ceo
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
pink orchestra pit legal warrant
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
saffron ape
  06/15/18
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Free-loading water buffalo codepig
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Orange Soul-stirring Lay
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
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  10/06/21
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/12/22
they have no debt as I understand it
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  06/15/18
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  06/15/18
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  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
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  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
shimmering lodge
  06/15/18
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Curious awkward goyim french chef
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Free-loading water buffalo codepig
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
snowy university mad cow disease
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
smoky house-broken factory reset button
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Blue razzle principal's office
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Orange Soul-stirring Lay
  06/15/18
sounds 180
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  06/15/18
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  06/15/18
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is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Fragrant deep church ceo
  10/06/21
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  01/18/25
omg 260k where do they get off
rough-skinned razzle-dazzle electric furnace
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Fragrant deep church ceo
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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  06/15/18
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
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  06/15/18
Explain
Fragrant deep church ceo
  06/15/18
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  09/04/18
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  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
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  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
rusted histrionic spot twinkling uncleanness
  06/15/18
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/12/21
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Concupiscible locale
  02/12/21
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Erotic cerebral boistinker
  02/15/21
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Dark beady-eyed cumskin fortuitous meteor
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Hairraiser Bistre Idiot Telephone
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
crusty wonderful rehab
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
crusty wonderful rehab
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Exciting Prole Temple
  02/12/21
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Concupiscible locale
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Dark beady-eyed cumskin fortuitous meteor
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Exciting Prole Temple
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
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  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Exciting Prole Temple
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Pearly Jet-lagged Mexican Deer Antler
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Hairraiser Bistre Idiot Telephone
  02/12/21
lol no
impertinent theater stage associate
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Pearl Home
  02/15/21
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  06/29/21
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  10/06/21
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Misanthropic Indian Lodge
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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Fragrant deep church ceo
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: pink orchestra pit legal warrant

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: saffron ape

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Free-loading water buffalo codepig



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Free-loading water buffalo codepig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Orange Soul-stirring Lay

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: harsh pit keepsake machete

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: onyx swashbuckling piazza filthpig

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Free-loading water buffalo codepig



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: onyx swashbuckling piazza filthpig

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: shimmering lodge

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Curious awkward goyim french chef



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Free-loading water buffalo codepig

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: snowy university mad cow disease

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: smoky house-broken factory reset button

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Blue razzle principal's office

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Orange Soul-stirring Lay

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: onyx swashbuckling piazza filthpig

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Curious awkward goyim french chef



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Stimulating milky garrison

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: saffron ape



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Blue razzle principal's office



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: hot submissive liquid oxygen tattoo



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: rough-skinned razzle-dazzle electric furnace

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: aquamarine aggressive parlour

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: aquamarine aggressive parlour

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: hot submissive liquid oxygen tattoo



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: trip insecure foreskin queen of the night

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: rusted histrionic spot twinkling uncleanness

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Concupiscible locale



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Erotic cerebral boistinker



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Dark beady-eyed cumskin fortuitous meteor

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Hairraiser Bistre Idiot Telephone

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: crusty wonderful rehab

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: crusty wonderful rehab

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Exciting Prole Temple

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Concupiscible locale



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Dark beady-eyed cumskin fortuitous meteor

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Exciting Prole Temple

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Pearly Jet-lagged Mexican Deer Antler

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Exciting Prole Temple

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Pearly Jet-lagged Mexican Deer Antler

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Hairraiser Bistre Idiot Telephone

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: impertinent theater stage associate

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Pearl Home

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: Misanthropic Indian Lodge



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Tan Point

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Fragrant deep church ceo



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