yes/no was Truman/USA justified in dropping the atomic bomb on Japs?
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Date: June 27th, 2018 9:22 AM Author: hot location
Yes. We fucked up Jap cities with conventional bombs worse, anyway.
Libs who think using the a-bomb wrong are usually misinformed. They're pretty much comparing a modern nuke attack against something like the Doolittle raid
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4011392&forum_id=2#36317679) |
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Date: June 27th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Appetizing amethyst gaping
Actually, you're wrong here. For example, Sherman explicitly forbade the destruction of individual homes during the March to the Sea (this didn't stop it from happening sometimes, of course, but it wasn't deliberate policy). In contrast, the Allied bombing campaigns literally WERE premised on destroying individual houses, with the excuse that "dehousing" the civilian population was a valid military goal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing
And then we have this quote from Bomber Harris:
"The aim of the Combined Bomber Offensive ... should be unambiguously stated [as] the destruction of German cities, the killing of German workers, and the disruption of civilised life throughout Germany ... the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4011392&forum_id=2#36319939) |
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Date: June 27th, 2018 5:38 PM Author: harsh tank giraffe
Let me clarify my position. I don't doubt that Sherman and other officers imposed such chivalrous rules of engagement, but such rules, at that time, concerned activities that were at the margin of the fighting that was taking place at that time.
However, if the North had squadrons of B-17s it could unleash on the South, possessing such ability to project force would have informed and ultimately changed the activities that those prosecuting the war effort thought of as acceptable.
In a way, I am taking Shelby Foote's position concerning how the individuals who fought these wars should be judged by contemporary society. They were no different than modern people. Their thoughts, beliefs and actions were simply a product of their time and circumstances.
As for your closing quote, that is precisely the point I was getting at with my juxtaposition of "total war" and the limited engagements that have been fought since. To be clear, I am claiming that the quoted basis for target is acceptable, let alone that it should be applauded.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4011392&forum_id=2#36322622) |
Date: June 27th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: Cyan abnormal school people who are hurt
I appreciate Charles XII’s argument.
But yes, we were justified. The trend on invasions was costing us more and more. Invading Japan proper and fighting a militarized civilian population would have been more damaging.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4011392&forum_id=2#36322677) |
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