35 years ago it was western boys having access to a few stashed Playboy-level glossy magazines

60 years ago, it was criminal and mostly topless calendars

100 years ago it was some purple writing in a foreign-language novel, maybe the very rare black and white photo or playing card

Past that, apart from the upper-upper-classes, it really didnt exist. No one could read. No one had mass media. Some paintings or song lyrics were bawdy.

From that point backwards, things remained about steady for 10,000 years.

Now, everyone age 12 or over has infinite access to infinite high-definition video of every sort of sexual activity, depraved or otherwise. One in twenty females produces it, or something.

This happened in the last 10-20 years, alongside total population bust, disappearance of marriage, disappearance of courtship, rising adolescent suicide, gender dysmorphia, loneliness epidemics, disappearance of third-place socialization, ballooning obesity, and general malaise and depression.

There was a short-lived (~30 year) feminist critique of porn, there is a very weakened and generally ignored Christian and Muslim critique of porn. But outside of the most ardent of these circles, there isnt even an acknowledgment that it exists or that it makes up 80% of internet traffic or whatever.

Its like if opioids were now consumed by everyone, within the last 20 years, but no one even mentioned it and was embarrassed to say anything in public

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758834)

we are utterly ill-equipped, evolutionarily, to see naked people fucking whenever we want. We stare like imbeciles and stop feeding our children or tending to fire, etc. WE CANNOT STOP STARING

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758843)

i think you make a crucial point about how shocking it is that everyone is too embarrassed to talk about it. when you really step back and think about it, it's totally insane that this is just...a fixture of society now, like an enormous looming shadow over our shoulders, constantly casting an uncomfortable, creepy pall over everything

honestly, the current state of pornography's influence over our society is a convincing argument against "democracy" all on its own

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758869)

it's a collective action problem. people on the individual level want access to porn even though we all know in our heart that the right thing to do would be to ban it for everyone, and if the government did that, (almost) none of us would have a problem with it. but there's no mechanism to achieve this within democracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758948)

This sounds like a you problem, not a porn problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758959)

- large element of jewish culture promotes poisonous dysgenic shit to weaken the power center they feel threatened by: white christian europe, etc

- "something should be done"

- final solution poasting

- no politician of either party takes one step back in full-throated israel support. matter of fact, they keep going forward

- 15 more years pass on my timeline, and now porn is produced by 1 of every 2 girls, and consumed in public by 13yos in school

If the critique of porn or somehow addressing it requires western nations to consider a new holocaust, lmao, we're fucked. There's no pathway there for another 100 years, if ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758848)

They cannot wreck everyone's ability to bank, to work, etc etc. At one point, the 98 can step forward and say, "no internet for under 16s", "this state is banning certain domains", "act like that around here and you'll get beat up", "your kids arent welcome due to your values", "there's a group of fathers outside your house, come out we wanna talk", etc.

Yes, it's hard for the first few who stand up, but if the 98 continue to do nothing, that's on us, more than on the 2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758876)

1. unveiling the jews, like the villain in scooby doo, ends the episode. scooby doo villains never have to go trial, get proven guilty, get sentenced. theyre just unveiled and poof, its all over

the implication is "lets get rid of these people", but even assuming all the unveilers points, thats never happening. western nations arent pogroming, now or in 100 years.

So it does redirect anything helpful into a brick wall

2. it inevitably assigns them magic superpowers, which further eases any burden the 98% of US society may have for actually putting its foot down. "Well an all-powerful foreign faction is behind this, so not really my job i guess"

PM may not be *wrong* factually. But we need to wake up the 98% to the reality that we hold every power needed to do things, without even needing to address the 2%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758906)

CR. It just amounts to a dopamine hit for him to identify them and then it gives him a dopamine hit for him to imagine them getting some sort of comeuppance. The common trait with all of these people is that they have zero actionable way to deal with the "problem". They just like to shitpost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758917)

Lmao. LMFAO.

Thanks for proving everything I said correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758943)

TBF needs to come ITT and slap the shit out of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758922)

In the real world they control nearly everything, and worse, they purposely seek to create social dysfunction.

Look at what they did to free speech after 10/7. No one dares criticize them, why? The President of the US is targeting individuals for arrest and deportation because they were critical about only one thing. Come on man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758929)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758935)

and tbh, i havent seen your prescription. "do something about jews"?

well sure.

but in the meantime, can we take incremental steps? Florida, e.g. banned pornhub. There are a million other porn sites still available in FL, but well RDS did something. Can we force every porn domain onto a .xxx? Can we litigate producers like we did big tobacco? Can we get some propaganda going about abuse-victims, ruined girls, etc? Can colleges expel OF people?

Lets DO SOME SHIT while we wait for the pogroms

98% may not have 98% power, but we have a fuckton. Lets use it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758955)

so yes, of course you can do things at the state level. they would come down on you like a thousand pound anvil every step of the way, and a jewish judge or legislator could easily stop you in your tracks.

what you need is funding for public awareness and though i agree with the magnitude of this issue, short of a billionaire going out on a limb how do you expect to get money if you can't freely speak up about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758981)

Have you considered that Trump's greatest allies are Jews? Some of the people executing his disastrous policies? There are Jews on both sides of the aisle in fact that believe a myriad of different things. Plenty of Jews against porn. Plenty of goys for it.

Please keep whining about the JOOOOOOOOS until you're on your deathbed though. I love seeing you in such a self-degraded state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758990)

Of course there are Jews on both sides of the aisle on a host of issues. But they all seem to be in agreement on Israel, why is that? And why are the owners of pornography companies all Jewish, and why have no prominent Jews spoken out about Jewish control of this industry and how to eliminate this menace from society?

Things can get better, and we do have agency. But refusing to acknowledge basic facts and criticizing those that posit them seems counterproductive to meaningful action.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48759004)

anti porn threads usually attract angry mobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758845)

something has to be done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758875)

it's an omnipresent distraction, that, for those whith minimal self control, represents an easy and more pleasurable alternative to socializing at a bar or playing catch.

if you can login & jerk off in 5 minutes then i agreed it's nbd. but if ur spending hours gooning, then it really does become an issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758921)

I also believe that most taboos and religious restrictions have a basis in something more than power-- usually related to knowing what is good for the religious community as a whole. 100s of years of experience to come up with these taboos and restrictions that we throw away in a flash because modern libs think religion is nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758979)

it's easy to rationalize that porn addiction is *better* than addiction to drugs or alcohol because it's not as deleterious to physical well-being (you can't overdose per se) and nor does it generally cause financial hardship (due to it being practically free, OF subs aside), but this is precisely why its so insidious.

There is generally no "rock bottom"; nothing to hit that makes you go "fuck, what am i doing". Nothing outwardly awry that makes your friends & family intervene. I would posit that there are millions of "high functioning" porn addicts out there (overwhelmingly male), who go about their normal day -- with family, friends, work colleagues -- all while constantly jonesing for their neXXXt depraved dopamine hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758894)

it's fine for many, but not for all. like any vice, there is a sub-set of folks who have no self control and the pron will take over their life, not always for the better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758926)

Which is completely different than being harmless, of course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758931)

so much of our internal and societal make up has evolved for millennia riding the coattails of this drive. Giant percentages of our art and tech were advanced by guys trying to get laid. Our very evolution (taller, smarter, etc) was produced in the engine of wanting to get laid.

Divert that most fundamental drive into a simulacrum, and you really start to undermine the whole of human history.

Iow, I think the deleterious effects are perhaps not as immediately visible as a drunk in the gutter, but many thousand times more threatening

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758934)

*checks notes*

not that terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758963)

its a wild reversal. A generation ago, blink of an eye societally, anyone "cool" with porn was the weirdo.

Now, say "hey maybe ten year olds having sex theaters in their pockets and pluralities of girls making porn is bad", and youre vulnerable to being called a coomer.

I dont have an answer to this. Its powerful and weird, but it is how it is

You did it above ITT and you do it here. "Yes, yes Im a degenerate masturbator". Thats how this convo gets shut down, successfully

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758970)

LJL at our "society"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758954)

I would think some sort of rewiring is also happening in connection with ubiquitous porn access. Probably not a good rewiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48758992)

the "no negative externalities" argument is funny bc 1. mating (pretty important thing) has gone to complete ruins in last 20 years, and any convo with honest single males will reveal that if denied female companionship they 100% will use porn, and 2. this ubiquity issue is really only 10-15 years old. We are in the infancy of this development

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48759002)

Slightly different issue I guess (most agree young teens should be shielded or at least will say so, many like ITT will try to argue that for adults it’s totally inconsequential and mentally very healthy), but I think there is more frank conversation about the matter now than say a decade ago.

There is also obviously a very “concerning” side to it. Like I don’t want to hear about females struggles with it or appreciation of it. That discussion itself is too much of a kinky suggestive thing. Maybe other men are more mature than me but meh. Don’t think so. It’s not quite like opiates where a matter of fact discussion is totally removed from the high etc. A too-open discussion of porn becomes itself pornographic. But yeah, we do need ways to keep the topic open for the public. And honest among men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48759359)

Growing up, we had 10 or so horses, not really working horses or high dollar horses with good bloodlines.

Most of them ended up just dying of old age eventually or we sold off a few. We had this stud Welsh pony that was a mean little shit. We also had a nice blooded quarter horse mare who was huge but wild as fuck.

Our Welsh pony bred the big quarter horse. We have no idea how he got his dick up that high from his little short stubby legs, but somehow he got it in there. Where there is a will, there's a way I guess!

Anyway, the two of them had "Pinky", a little stud pony with crazy eyes and we never tamed or rode him.

Flash forward many years of adult hood later, and only Pinky was left. My Dad is 76 now.

My little sister and her husband put one of their good mares in our pasture across on the other side of our little county road. This was a high dollar horse that my sister's daughters used for barrel racing, and they put her over there because the mare was in heat and they didn't want any other horse to just breed her.

Ol Pinky tore his way through not one, but two barbed wire fences. He fucked all day and night before my Dad noticed him missing and in our pasture across the road.

We thought he might die, because he cut himself to shreds and lost a lot of blood and had risk of infection.

But he made it. Scared up all over now and grizzled, but to be sure, he made his day of fucking count.

He's living to this day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695982&forum_id=2#48759714)