The USAID politico story is proof we live in a post-truth world
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Date: February 7th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: ...,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.
It doesn’t matter if the real number is 40k, I feel like it’s $8M!
It doesn’t matter if it was people buying politico subscriptions with their expense card, I feel like it was collusion between fed and media!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632016) |
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Date: February 7th, 2025 9:46 AM Author: ...,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.
In a post truth world you can say anything. libel isn’t a thing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632024) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
cr. all that matters is controlling the narrative on social media
https://x.com/steveliesman/status/1887665818919690390?s=46
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/06/politico-note-to-readers-00202917
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632019) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: ....,,....,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.......,.,.,.,.,..,.
NYT clarified that gov subscriptions are less than 1% of its revenue. Politico has provided no such data, which is not surprising because the $8.1m in gov pro subscriptions no doubt is a significant chunk of its revenue and presumably helps subsidize its leftwing reporting.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632078) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 10:24 AM Author: lsd
“Let’s be clear: POLITICO has no financial dependence on the government”
Great, then you shouldn’t have any problems meeting payroll next time
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632162) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 10:30 AM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,
It's one of the biggest scandals in decades. This was paid propaganda with taxpayer $$
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632176) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 10:34 AM Author: peeface
FACT CHECK: these were not Politico subscriptions, they were Politico Pro subscriptions - a completely distinct service designed just so Politico can rip off the government with inflated prices for bureaucrats
oh you got us there
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632192)
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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:53 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe
The xo stages of a right-wing twitter "scandal"
1) OMG! Look at what this guy on twitter said. Who cares if he's not a journalist or reputable outlet and his evidence is some hazy-ass screenshot. MSM is fake lib news anyway. And they have an agenda!
2) Ok, there may be some holes in the story, but it started a conversation. I mean there's some real problems here that libs need to start addressing!
3) lol at libs every taking this seriously! lisping about fake news. Trump's really got you mad and you fell for it! (posts tongue-in-cheek threads about original story to bait libs into 100-post thread)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632314) |
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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: peeface
are you nuts old man?
there are no "holes" in the story other than Politico issuing a statement that they still would have acted as regime propagandists even if they hadn't been paid for it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48633466)
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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:54 AM
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Goli Sheikholeslami, the CEO of Politico, owned by a leftwing German media conglomerate, wants you to know that ....
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48632338) |
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Date: February 7th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: gibberish (?)
Lol sure thing Mr cnn.
In a shocking new survey, Trump has the support of younger voters, millennials, parents, and the growing majority of those who get their news from new media such as long-form podcasts hosted by celebrities such as Joe Rogan.
In fact he said, older voters don’t approve of Trump, with 58% expressing disapproval.
The shift among 2024 election voters matches the change in how Americans are finding and consuming news, said Zogby. Those who have stuck with old media such as TV news and print lean away from Trump while new media users and those who rely on social media are joining his coalition.
“This particular angle is among the most critical findings from the poll because it aligns with a generational shift in the country — voters under 45 are much less trusting of traditional information sources and have gravitated towards two- to three-hourlong free-form podcasts and social media where satirical memes that challenge the national network and print narratives are commonplace. When it comes down to it, this is arguably the real divide,”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48634803) |
Date: February 7th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: Die Hard 2: Die Harder
After days of this I haven't seen a single example of what Politico Pro brings to the table for $10K per year. Stuff like this is on the web.
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2024/10/obama-makes-a-senate-splash-00182648
Is this worth paying extra to read? Seems like you could read about this in any number of places.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48634809)
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Date: February 8th, 2025 2:08 AM
Author: \'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\"\'\'\'\'
Rabid Trump people are as bad as far left shitlibs. They don't care about the truth behind any of the claims.
Everybody who gets yosemite sam fuming faggot mad about politics like all these people are inevitably low-information and addicted to feeling outraged/smug about an endless stream of meaningless political developments or manufactured news cycles. They do not care what's accurate or really go, they just need the quick neurotransmitter hit of feeling involved with whatever bullshit is happening in the news. It's a really feminine and servile mindset but they also tend to lack self-awareness. That's why you see weakening older males get increasingly addicted to the political news cycle and fired up about national politics -- their balls are gone so they let retarded politicians and cable news talking heads lead them around.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48635659) |
Date: February 8th, 2025 8:24 AM
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NYT wrote this article, focusing on the false claims about Ben Stiller, etc. they also focus a bit on the Politico subscription.
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Falsehoods Fuel the Right-Wing Crusade Against U.S.A.I.D.
As the Trump administration works to dismantle the aid agency, right-wing influencers have flooded the internet with falsehoods about its work.
Steven Lee MyersStuart A. Thompson
By Steven Lee Myers and Stuart A. Thompson
Feb. 7, 2025
The video falsely claiming that the United States Agency for International Development paid Ben Stiller, Angelina Jolie and other actors millions of dollars to travel to Ukraine appeared to be a clip from E!News, though it never appeared on the entertainment channel.
In fact, the video first surfaced on X in a post from an account that researchers have said spreads Russian disinformation.
Within hours it drew the attention of Elon Musk, who reposted it. So did President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr.
They amplified the false video as Mr. Musk pressed a crusade to shut down U.S.A.I.D., the agency that has distributed much of the government’s foreign aid since 1961. Working with Mr. Trump’s blessing as the head of a government efficiency campaign, Mr. Musk and others in the administration have taken over the agency’s headquarters, frozen grants and notified employees that nearly all of them will be laid off.
The dismantling of the agency has been accompanied by a torrent of anger online from right-wing influencers and accounts that are promoting false claims and conspiratorial thinking.
While some politicians and voters have long questioned the value of foreign aid, those attacking the agency have often distorted facts and, wittingly or unwittingly, embraced as true anything that could help justify targeting U.S.A.I.D.
That includes Mr. Musk himself, who has used the platform he took over in 2022 as a megaphone for the effort to slash the federal bureaucracy. On Sunday Mr. Musk called it “a criminal organization,” without explaining the basis for such an accusation.
“He’s exploiting ignorance about the way government works, and the lack of oversight over anything he’s doing,” said Mike Rothschild, a disinformation researcher and author of “Jewish Space Lasers,” a book about conspiracy theories. “All of it is incredibly dangerous, and happening right in front of us.”
The flurry of attacks also underscored once again how much Republican views have increasingly converged with propaganda emanating from the Kremlin or with narratives aligned with its international goals, especially on Mr. Musk’s platform. The false video about the celebrities appeared to be the work of an influence campaign that has produced dozens of similar fakes about Russia’s war in Ukraine, according to Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub.
“Russian anti-Ukraine propaganda has thoroughly infiltrated certain communities on X,” said Darren L. Linvill, a researcher there, who traced the spread of the faked clip from its origin on X through a network of accounts that has distributed Russian fakes before.
“Given how much time Musk spends on his platform,” Dr. Linvill said, “it was probably inevitable that some fabricated Russian message would resonate with him, and this one seemed almost designed to do just that.”
Neither Mr. Musk nor Donald Trump Jr. responded immediately to requests for comment.
X didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment about the spread of misinformation about U.S.A.I.D. on the platform, though it has added a note to posts sharing the video about the actors, noting that it is not real.
Much of the frenzy online this week has centered on U.S.A.I.D.’s many grants, information about which has been publicly available for years.
One viral claim, for example, started after an account on X with more than half a million followers suggested that Politico, the Washington news website, had received more than $8 million from U.S.A.I.D.
That wasn’t true. The website had received about $44,000 from U.S.A.I.D. for subscriptions to its premium environmental and energy publication over two years, and more than $8 million in subscription revenue from a variety of agencies, including the Department of Energy.
Even so, the claim shot rapidly across social media, as influencers and politicians with even more followers amplified the idea.
That set off a round of other misleading claims about U.S.A.I.D. granting money to the BBC and The New York Times. (The agency has instead granted money to an independent charity that shares a name with the BBC. The most viral claim about The New York Times was based on an inaccurate search of government records that included grants to unrelated, but similar-sounding groups, like New York University. In a statement, The Times said that the payments it had received were for subscriptions; government data shows it has also received some advertising revenue from the government. In a memo to staff, Politico’s leaders said the publication had “never been a beneficiary of government programs or subsidies.”)
The facts failed to reach a significant audience online, but the misinformation was elevated by prominent podcasters, politicians and Trump allies within hours.
Posts on X About Politico and U.S.A.I.D.
Nearly 15,000 posts on X over two days mentioned U.S.A.I.D. and Politico, with many users falsely claiming that the humanitarian organization paid the news website millions of dollars.
Cumulative views
80 million
Viktor Orban
Prime minister
of Hungary
70
Nearly 10 hours after his first post,
the same independent journalist
clarifies that U.S.A.I.D. had paid
Politico only $24,000 for 2024.
60
50
40
Benny Johnson
Podcaster
30
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
Republican of Georgia
20
Charlie Kirk
Podcaster
10
An independent journalist goes viral suggesting
that U.S.A.I.D. paid Politico more than $8 million.
0
1,000
3,000
5,000
7,000
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Note: Data includes posts on X between Feb. 5 at 9 a.m. Eastern Time and Feb. 6 at 10 p.m. that mention both “Politico” and “USAID.”Source: Tweet Binder by AudienseBy The New York Times
Accounts devoted to sharing conspiracy theories said the claims were somehow evidence that the Democrats used U.S.A.I.D. to fund a “fake news empire.”
By Wednesday afternoon, Viktor Orban, Hungary’s prime minister and authoritarian leader, echoed the claims swirling in the United States, writing on X that payments to Politico somehow financed “basically the entire left-wing media in Hungary” — a viral post that received more than 26 million views.
Soon the idea spread to the Oval Office, where Mr. Trump used his Truth Social account to criticize the government’s news subscriptions — payments that had occurred during his first presidency as well — as “payoffs” for “creating good stories about the Democrats.”
“This could be the biggest scandal of them all, perhaps the biggest in history!” he wrote in all-caps on Thursday morning as other users demanded criminal investigations.
Karoline Leavitt, the White House’s press secretary, announced that the administration would cancel all Politico subscriptions. On Thursday, the Agriculture Department said it had canceled its Politico subscriptions.
For Russia and China, the American conservative uproar over U.S.A.I.D. has been met with startled glee.
Both nations, echoing Mr. Orban’s complaint, have blamed the agency for supporting subversive programs in their countries.
Chen Weihua, a prominent bureau chief and columnist for the state news organization China Daily, cited reports about the agency’s funding as vindication for China’s previous claims. He suggested that the BBC’s reporters in China were “all bought” by the Central Intelligence Agency and the British secret service, MI6.
“If you have questions why BBC reporters in China keep smearing China all these years and talking BS, you might find answers now,” he wrote on X.
President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia banned U.S.A.I.D. grants in 2012 and expelled the agency’s workers, accusing the United States of funding opponents of his rule. (Officials from Republican and Democratic administrations have argued that the programs simply promoted civil society in Russia.)
Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, ridiculed a series of grants that have been criticized in the United States, too, and claimed the agency’s underlying purpose was to promote political uprisings, citing protests in Egypt in 2011, Ukraine in 2014 and Georgia last year.
The false video that went viral this week claiming U.S.A.I.D. funded celebrity travel overseas fit Russia’s recurring narrative that the United States furtively supports Ukraine with resources that American voters would rather spend at home.
The video appeared to be the work of an influence campaign known to researchers as Operation Overload or Matryoshka, after the Russian nesting dolls, according to Clemson’s Media Forensics Hub. That work is led by a private company with links to the Kremlin.
Viral Disinformation About U.S.A.I.D.
A false video, claiming that celebrities were paid by U.S.A.I.D. for visiting Ukraine, went viral online and was reposted by Elon Musk, X’s owner and most-followed user. It appeared to be part of a Russian influence campaign, according to Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub.
By The New York Times
The footage showed photographs or clips of a number of well-known actors meeting with Ukraine’s leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, while a narrator with a British accent claimed the actors had received large payments from U.S.A.I.D. for the appearance.
Ms. Jolie, the narrator says, received $20 million; Orlando Bloom, $8 million; Sean Penn, $5 million; and so on. “This was done to increase Zelensky’s popularity among foreign audiences, particularly in the United States,” the narrator claims. “The involvement of celebrities made it easy to coordinate funding programs for Ukraine during the conflict.”
After the video appeared on the X account, articles about its claims appeared on the sites of at least two Russian news organizations, Tsargrad and Pravda. The video was picked up by a number of accounts that have previously shared Russian disinformation, but soon expanded beyond that to Americans cheering the Trump administration on. By Thursday, users on TikTok and Mr. Trump’s Truth Social platform had shared the video as commenters expressed outrage and called for U.S.A.I.D. to be eliminated.
There is no evidence of the payments in any of the agency’s programs. A spokesman for E!News also said in a statement that “the video is not authentic and did not originate from E!News.”
The actor Ben Stiller, said to have been paid $4 million for a visit to Ukraine, took to social media to try to refute the claim. “These are lies coming from Russian media,” he wrote on X. “I completely self-funded my humanitarian trip to Ukraine. There was no funding from USAID and certainly no payment of any kind.”
More conspiratorially minded supporters of Mr. Musk continue to cheer the billionaire on anyway.
They include a food service worker and Army National Guard veteran who was blamed in 2022 for starting a conspiracy theory about American biological weapons laboratories in Ukraine. In attacking U.S.A.I.D., he wrote in posts on X and Telegram this week, Mr. Musk had exposed “an Orwellian dystopia” by detailing the agency’s supposed support for the media.
“We live on a foundation of lies,” he said.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48635954) |
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Date: February 8th, 2025 8:59 AM Author: '"'''"'''""""
This reads like parody:
“said Mike Rothschild, a disinformation researcher and author of ‘Jewish Space Lasers,’”
🤡
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5676921&forum_id=2#48635985) |
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