How does 'subject to the jx thereof' argument vs birthright work w/o immunity
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Date: November 7th, 2024 11:16 AM Author: My xo friends have enriched me tremendously.
'Jurisdiction' is the power a government has to bind a person or thing to its judgment. This understanding of jurisdiction is why diplomats don't get citizenship at birth: no jurisdiction.
Obviously the position isn't that foreigners are immune to the jurisdiction of American courts and that one's sole remedy against an illegal alien is to deport them, even if they're, e.g., a terrorist. So how does this work as a legal argument, as opposed to just something you want to happen REALLY REALLY BAD?
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Date: November 7th, 2024 11:33 AM Author: My xo friends have enriched me tremendously.
When Wong Kim Ark was decided, resident aliens weren't registered with the government and one became a 'resident alien' by just moving to the country. The only equivalent was registration of one's intent to become a citizen, which wasn't required under Wong Kim Ark, and he wouldn't have qualified to file one if he wasn't a citizen because he wasn't white. The specific categories exempted were enumerated:
(1) children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or
(2) born on foreign public ships, or
(3) of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and
(4) the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes
Because the term 'resident alien' included those categories, and those were merely an exception, the use of the term 'resident alien' to refer to 'legal permanent resident' status as it now exists would be a pretty fanciful extension of the concept. I suppose you could call it part of a hostile occupation, but I don't think even Thomas would go for that. Someone who gets an ITIN and re-shingles roofs for pay, subject to the effective jurisdiction of civilian courts, is clearly not a soldier of a foreign country occupying a part of the United States.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5629457&forum_id=2#48305525) |
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