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how many 2Ls at CLS/NYU still don't have offers?

just trying to assess the chaos stories i heard in sept
Scarlet hideous lodge useless brakes
  02/03/10
I am also interested to hear this.
Lime persian son of senegal
  02/03/10
Lots. I know ~10 personally. Estimates range all over, 20-50...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/03/10
wow
brindle ticket booth gunner
  02/03/10
NYU or CLS?
Scarlet hideous lodge useless brakes
  02/04/10
Some say NYU did better than CLS this year because of their ...
Soul-stirring Mint Gay Wizard
  02/04/10
that doesn't make much sense...considering the new curve is ...
Motley Range Community Account
  02/04/10
*jizzes on your corn flakes*
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/04/10
Pretty sure NYU's new curve awards 6% more A's compared to C...
Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site
  02/04/10
Looks like 1L classes are all around 7-12% A's.
Motley Range Community Account
  02/04/10
I mean all A grades (A+, A, A-). The range for all A gra...
Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site
  02/04/10
Interesting.
Motley Range Community Account
  02/04/10
NYU's new curve also has fewer B-'s than CLS'. NYU: 5% or...
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/04/10
Close, but not quite correct. At NYU, 4-8% of 1L classes get...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
thanks, i stand corrected. still only half the # of B-'s as...
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
That's possible. Of course the curves were never identical. ...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
NYU's median used to be 3.15? (People claim CLS's median is ...
Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site
  02/05/10
I heard that NYU's old median was around 3.17 and that CLS's...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
What's the deal with A+'s at CLS? Are they given out in most...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
"A+ is a grade to be used sparingly and only for truly ...
Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site
  02/05/10
That establishes an upper bound but is otherwise unhelpful. ...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
I'm just a 1L but I don't know anyone (1L or otherwise) who ...
Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site
  02/05/10
They put the distributions online here. It's kinda helpful w...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
By the way, I've been meaning to ask you. You weren't, by an...
Motley Range Community Account
  02/05/10
No. If that's the class taught by Been, though, I certainly ...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
CLS A+s are not common. I know a few 1L professors like to ...
Spectacular laser beams
  02/05/10
1L friend of mine has one of those A+s.
Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry
  02/05/10
The distribution from 04/05 is available at CLS (same curve ...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
It sounds like there's a material but opaque difference betw...
bonkers stirring becky codepig
  02/05/10
too bad america still thinks it's a state school
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
what kind of offers would still be coming at this point? fir...
disgusting gold associate hall
  02/03/10
the only people i know at those schools without jobs are 3Ls
marvelous obsidian dog poop old irish cottage
  02/04/10
more than u think. no way to know for sure though cuz no on...
Razzmatazz toaster church building
  02/04/10
also cso seems content w/ not finding out. LOL how surpri...
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
I know for CLS, we'll have the stats in april when they hand...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
57.8
racy elastic band
  02/04/10
50%
Soul-stirring Mint Gay Wizard
  02/04/10
CLS: ~10% of those wanting biglaw NYU: ~10% of those wantin...
Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage
  02/04/10
That's optimistic.
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/04/10
Reality, actually. It was not as easy as years past, and it ...
Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage
  02/04/10
"Cambridge, actually"
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/04/10
Last night CLS dude claimed 2 people on LR struck out. I hav...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/04/10
I claimed one for sure, other is a rumor.
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/04/10
what are these two people like? striking out as LR from CLS ...
copper twisted kitty cat
  02/04/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZNQ06kWyc
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/04/10
lol nice
copper twisted kitty cat
  02/04/10
The blood shed is overblown, but your estimate is too low.
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/04/10
What's better? 15% 20% It is surely no more than that. I onl...
Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage
  02/04/10
Are you including those who struck out with biglaw but lande...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/04/10
I'd guess 20%. I know at least 10 people without jobs and th...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
That's only true because, for some odd reason, five times as...
pearly athletic conference weed whacker
  02/04/10
*is inspired by the plight of harlem tenants*
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/04/10
I personally know of about 10-15 ppl at CLS still without of...
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
wow. at first i was optimistic for my 2l friends at UVA who ...
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
hey man how many dicks do u have to take before it doesn't h...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
depends how loose your asshole is to begin with
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
titcr, actually
slimy maize mood
  02/05/10
you don't have friends
Wine Fragrant Station
  02/05/10
i have plenty ty
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
seems like a lot of people have been going to the pilc fair.
Brass alcoholic library knife
  02/05/10
yeah dude. it's pretty fucked
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
1Ls or 2Ls?
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
lots of 2Ls... including me :/
Razzmatazz toaster church building
  02/05/10
CCN?
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
Cost of NYU law degree? $40K/year Cost of NYC housing? $1...
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
at this point i'd be more than thrilled to have a job at the...
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
sad if true how much does the bronx da even pay?
crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse
  02/05/10
they pay you with steinbrenner's ball sweat
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
well what exactly are the other options for someone like me ...
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
why does joining the Bronx DA's office necessarily imply a l...
marvelous obsidian dog poop old irish cottage
  02/05/10
zomg 40k is ok because i am HELPUN PEOPLZ
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
it's real bad ya'll
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
"I would estimate that half to 75% are still not sure w...
slimy maize mood
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
To be fair, I think the deadline for first "expressing ...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
which school is this?
Bespoke sexy stage corn cake
  02/05/10
N
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
Holy shit, if true, the rumors about NYU doing better than C...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
W/ transfers the class is around 463. Many of the top half ...
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
I think the class is bigger than that. It's almost 500, no?
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
How big was last year's 1L class? I know they only took 30 ...
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
I got my figure from a transfer, he could be wrong. You sur...
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
That's less than half the class and probably includes some p...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
Even 1/3rd of the class would be shocking at either school, ...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
1/3 without biglaw?
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
Yeah (among those who wanted it).
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
That sounds approximately correct.
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
At least 1/3 of the individuals at CCN that wanted biglaw di...
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
where did you get those data?
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
"For sure"? Do you work in CS? Otherwise, how ...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
Really? In a normal year, I think NYU placed about 80% into ...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
Really? Are you conflating post grad employment with 2L summ...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
No, the 80% number is from the 2L summer employment data OCS...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
There are no jobs! Why would anyone be surprised.
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
That sounds like bullshit.
Motley Range Community Account
  02/05/10
229 2Ls from what schools? If you mean columbia/NYU, yo...
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
He's talking about N. I looked through my email and wasn't a...
adventurous saffron trust fund
  02/05/10
give the general risk-averseness of law students, I would no...
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
You might be right here. However, some that did not express...
nubile roast beef
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
I hear at least 20 columbia 1Ls got firm jobs. Several are m...
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
i dont understand this. how do firms have jobs for 1Ls??????...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
connections/straight As/science PhD, etc
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
not sure about the range, but I personally know one kid with...
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
has to be dpw. they took 1Ls last year too.
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
Wachtell did too.
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
...
sickened abnormal public bath rigpig
  02/05/10
Different dood, their nalp form says they were hiring 5 1L's...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
Sounds about right, I (non-URM) got a 1L gig last year (at a...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
why did you give your an offer when there was overcapacity? ...
big onyx newt den
  02/05/10
No clue as to why, I did jack shit all summer too. I have a ...
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
almost all the jobs listed for 1L summer at good firms on sy...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
...
Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry
  02/05/10
yeah i saw that one. pretty sure i don't have a shot when th...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
...
Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry
  02/05/10
lol dude you think that matters
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
That's how I got my 1L gig.
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
fuck you
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
u mad?
irradiated stead pisswyrm
  02/05/10
no u
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
...
Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry
  02/05/10
what about having a positive attitude and an engaging, warm ...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10
...
Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry
  02/05/10
what about wearing a power tie and making sure to shake hand...
navy marketing idea liquid oxygen
  02/05/10


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Date: February 3rd, 2010 11:36 PM
Author: Scarlet hideous lodge useless brakes

just trying to assess the chaos stories i heard in sept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008000)



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Date: February 3rd, 2010 11:48 PM
Author: Lime persian son of senegal

I am also interested to hear this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008149)



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Date: February 3rd, 2010 11:52 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Lots. I know ~10 personally. Estimates range all over, 20-50%, but no one knows for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008197)



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Date: February 3rd, 2010 11:52 PM
Author: brindle ticket booth gunner

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008202)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 1:29 PM
Author: Scarlet hideous lodge useless brakes

NYU or CLS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14012786)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 3:33 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Mint Gay Wizard

Some say NYU did better than CLS this year because of their new curve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14013899)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: Motley Range Community Account

that doesn't make much sense...considering the new curve is roughly equivalent to columbia's (the old one was a bit lower).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017535)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

*jizzes on your corn flakes*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017542)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:44 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site

Pretty sure NYU's new curve awards 6% more A's compared to CLS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018541)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:46 PM
Author: Motley Range Community Account

Looks like 1L classes are all around 7-12% A's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018576)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:54 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site

I mean all A grades (A+, A, A-).

The range for all A grades at CLS is 20-25%. At NYU, it's 23-31%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018658)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:56 PM
Author: Motley Range Community Account

Interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018679)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:56 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

NYU's new curve also has fewer B-'s than CLS'.

NYU: 5% or less B-'s

CLS: 7 to 15%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019421)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:05 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

Close, but not quite correct. At NYU, 4-8% of 1L classes get B-'s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019569)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:09 AM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

thanks, i stand corrected. still only half the # of B-'s as CLS.

the new NYU curve has more As and fewer B-'s than the CLS curve, and that probably contributed to NYU fairing better this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019624)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:22 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

That's possible. Of course the curves were never identical. Before this, NYU's median was around .05 lower than CLS's. If employers were just comparing GPAs willy nilly, a few NYUers likely got screwed at the margins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019857)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:24 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site

NYU's median used to be 3.15? (People claim CLS's median is 3.2, but I have no idea if that's true)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019904)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:27 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

I heard that NYU's old median was around 3.17 and that CLS's was around 3.22. Now NYU's is probably around 3.27.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019956)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:08 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

What's the deal with A+'s at CLS? Are they given out in most classes, or are they rarer than that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019613)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:28 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site

"A+ is a grade to be used sparingly and only for truly extraordinary performance. There should be no more than one A+ in a class and the grade should not be used automatically for the top performance in the class if that performance is not extraordinary."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019969)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:32 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

That establishes an upper bound but is otherwise unhelpful. Have you glanced at grade distributions and established some sense of the frequency with which they're distributed?

At NYU they're discretionary and usually capped at 1 person, but I get the sense that most of the profs think they're supposed to give them out on a regular basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14020022)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:36 AM
Author: Well-lubricated Insane Wrinkle Site

I'm just a 1L but I don't know anyone (1L or otherwise) who has an A+. Where would I find this distribution? The registrar?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14020076)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:43 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

They put the distributions online here. It's kinda helpful when you're selecting classes--you want to avoid the profs who make a habit of giving out C's and D's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14020202)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:47 AM
Author: Motley Range Community Account

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you. You weren't, by any chance, in land use reg. last term were you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14020250)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:08 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

No. If that's the class taught by Been, though, I certainly wanted to take it for the reason you're thinking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022520)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 9:25 PM
Author: Spectacular laser beams

CLS A+s are not common. I know a few 1L professors like to give them out pretty much every time they teach (Liebman for crim), but otherwise I don't know about how common they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14028434)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 9:47 PM
Author: Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry

1L friend of mine has one of those A+s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14028563)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:51 AM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

The distribution from 04/05 is available at CLS (same curve as today) and very very few classes gave out an A+. I also know that my crim law professor, who gave out the distribution on his own, awarded 1 A+ in the last 12 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022567)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 11:25 AM
Author: bonkers stirring becky codepig

It sounds like there's a material but opaque difference between the two school on this point. I suspect NYU students will benefit from this for at least a little while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14023517)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:54 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

too bad america still thinks it's a state school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024552)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:53 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024546)



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Date: February 3rd, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: disgusting gold associate hall

what kind of offers would still be coming at this point? firms or more like volunteer stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008249)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 12:08 AM
Author: marvelous obsidian dog poop old irish cottage

the only people i know at those schools without jobs are 3Ls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14008472)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 1:35 AM
Author: Razzmatazz toaster church building

more than u think. no way to know for sure though cuz no one goes around bragging about not getting a SA position. also cso seems content w/ not finding out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14009863)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:58 AM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

also cso seems content w/ not finding out.

LOL how surprising....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022579)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 8:02 AM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

I know for CLS, we'll have the stats in april when they hand out the EIP stats to the 1L's (unless they try to cover it up by not releasing them this year).

They also did an online survey about callbacks and rumor (completely unsubstantiated) was that almost 40 people had zero callbacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022584)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: racy elastic band

57.8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14012791)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 3:32 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Mint Gay Wizard

50%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14013893)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 8:05 PM
Author: Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage

CLS: ~10% of those wanting biglaw

NYU: ~10% of those wanting biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14016823)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:05 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

That's optimistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017522)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:29 PM
Author: Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage

Reality, actually. It was not as easy as years past, and it was far from guaranteed, but the bloodshed reported on this site is a little overblown.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017724)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:33 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

"Cambridge, actually"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017744)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:47 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

Last night CLS dude claimed 2 people on LR struck out. I have a hard time reconciling that with your assertion, couched though it may be in "those who wanted it" language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017875)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:48 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

I claimed one for sure, other is a rumor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017891)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:21 PM
Author: copper twisted kitty cat

what are these two people like? striking out as LR from CLS is pretty egregious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018277)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:24 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZNQ06kWyc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018314)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:31 PM
Author: copper twisted kitty cat

lol nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018411)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:47 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

The blood shed is overblown, but your estimate is too low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017880)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:54 PM
Author: Wonderful Iridescent Blood Rage

What's better? 15% 20% It is surely no more than that. I only know one person without one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017988)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:25 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

Are you including those who struck out with biglaw but landed some other random job (gov't, PI, etc.) in the pile of gainfully employed 2Ls? I suppose that would be technically correct, but given the fact that most of those positions do not lead to full time positions after law school, it would be a bit deceptive to lump them in there with the people who managed to land biglaw jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018326)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:53 AM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

I'd guess 20%. I know at least 10 people without jobs and those are only the people who admit to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022571)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:48 PM
Author: pearly athletic conference weed whacker

That's only true because, for some odd reason, five times as many people don't want biglaw this year. I'm sure the fact that there aren't nearly as many available positions is just a coincidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14017886)



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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:57 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

*is inspired by the plight of harlem tenants*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14018014)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

I personally know of about 10-15 ppl at CLS still without offers, and my social circle isn't exactly big. My guess would be that anywhere from 50 to 75 2Ls still don't have anything lined up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14019459)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:27 AM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

wow. at first i was optimistic for my 2l friends at UVA who have no jobs this summer lined up. but if the kids from columbia/nyu aren't landing anything, i'm afraid to say that my poor uva friends are FUCKT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14022525)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:54 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

hey man how many dicks do u have to take before it doesn't hurt anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024550)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:21 PM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

depends how loose your asshole is to begin with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026316)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:24 PM
Author: slimy maize mood

titcr, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026330)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:56 PM
Author: Wine Fragrant Station

you don't have friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024558)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:21 PM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

i have plenty ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026312)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:24 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024336)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:58 PM
Author: Brass alcoholic library knife

seems like a lot of people have been going to the pilc fair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024574)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 2:00 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

yeah dude. it's pretty fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14024581)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 4:31 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

1Ls or 2Ls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14025886)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 4:42 PM
Author: Razzmatazz toaster church building

lots of 2Ls... including me :/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026019)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:10 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

CCN?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026252)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:35 PM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

Cost of NYU law degree? $40K/year

Cost of NYC housing? $14K/year

Cost of 3 years of NYC bar hopping? $10K

Cost of your lost pride at having graduated from NYU Law and joining the ranks of the Bronx DA? Immeasureable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026394)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 5:38 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

at this point i'd be more than thrilled to have a job at the bronx DA's office upon graduation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026422)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:52 PM
Author: crusty zippy twinkling uncleanness whorehouse

sad if true

how much does the bronx da even pay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027495)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:53 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

they pay you with steinbrenner's ball sweat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027500)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 10:06 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

well what exactly are the other options for someone like me who struck out at 2L OCI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14028652)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 8:32 PM
Author: marvelous obsidian dog poop old irish cottage

why does joining the Bronx DA's office necessarily imply a loss of pride

fuck you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027821)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 8:33 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

zomg 40k is ok because i am HELPUN PEOPLZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027827)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:24 PM
Author: nubile roast beef
Subject: it's real bad ya'll

Public Interest department sent out email one month ago overcome with joy at the 229 2Ls that had expressed the desire to work in public interest and receive PILC funding. Of that 50% of the class, I would estimate that half to 75% are still not sure where they will be volunteering their services this summer. The competition is fierce. The halls have been lined with their perky smiles and sunken eyes. 25% will basically strike out and will end up RAing or working for some school affiliated institution, if they are lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026839)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:27 PM
Author: slimy maize mood

"I would estimate that half to 75% are still not sure where they will be volunteering their services this summer. The competition is fierce. The halls have been lined with their perky smiles and sunken eyes."

reminded me of the great WUSTL thread; time for a CCN edition?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026865)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:29 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig

...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026877)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:41 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

To be fair, I think the deadline for first "expressing interest" in PILC funding was way back at the beginning of september last year, so it's pretty likely that some of those students were applying out of an abundance of caution--I certainly considered doing as much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026961)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:29 PM
Author: Bespoke sexy stage corn cake

which school is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026878)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:30 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

N

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026887)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:35 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Holy shit, if true, the rumors about NYU doing better than CLS are wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026922)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:42 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

W/ transfers the class is around 463. Many of the top half students are doing the PILC fair because they did not want big law, this is at least 10%. This leaves approximately 40% of the bottom halvers fighting for public interest jobs. I do not know how anyone can assess who is doing better with these incomplete numbers. Anyways, better than this shit can still be shit. I don't think anyone is quite ready to pull out their data.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026976)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:43 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

I think the class is bigger than that. It's almost 500, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026980)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:44 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

How big was last year's 1L class? I know they only took 30 transfers and at least 5 kids have dropped out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026995)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:46 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027005)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:48 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

I got my figure from a transfer, he could be wrong. You sure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027020)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:55 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027082)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:42 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

That's less than half the class and probably includes some people who ended up securing biglaw jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026977)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:44 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Even 1/3rd of the class would be shocking at either school, if confirmed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026993)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:45 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

1/3 without biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027000)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:48 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Yeah (among those who wanted it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027019)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:51 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

That sounds approximately correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027038)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:52 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

At least 1/3 of the individuals at CCN that wanted biglaw did not get it. For sure. Life is a bitch sometime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027045)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:53 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

where did you get those data?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027056)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

"For sure"?

Do you work in CS? Otherwise, how the fuck can you say anything with certainty?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027149)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:48 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

Really? In a normal year, I think NYU placed about 80% into firms. I think about 1/2 of the remaining 20% sought PILC funding as a last resort. I wouldn't be surprised if that 80% dropped to 60% or lower last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027026)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:52 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Really? Are you conflating post grad employment with 2L summer employment? At CLS, the 2007 stats show that 398 took a 2L SA, which = 93% of the class. Post grad only 80% are at firms (due to no-offers, clerks, and people who never wanted to work for a firm but still wanted the 2L summer cash).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027052)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

No, the 80% number is from the 2L summer employment data OCS distributed to us last year. I think NYU has more students who are interested in public service than does CLS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027131)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:53 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

There are no jobs! Why would anyone be surprised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027059)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:37 PM
Author: Motley Range Community Account

That sounds like bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026933)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:43 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

229 2Ls from what schools?

If you mean columbia/NYU, you are flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14026988)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:54 PM
Author: adventurous saffron trust fund

He's talking about N. I looked through my email and wasn't able to find the number he's talking about. But even if it's correct, as I mentioned above, the deadline for "expressing interest" was before most firms had extended offers, making it highly likely that the number quoted includes quite a few people who applied for funding out of caution rather than necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027070)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:57 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

give the general risk-averseness of law students, I would not be surprised if all the LR kids expressed interest for safety. The data is useless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027106)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 6:59 PM
Author: nubile roast beef

You might be right here. However, some that did not express interest at that time had to subsequently catch up on their obligations. The summary of my story is that at least 25% of the class is really nervous right now and will be strown amongst the small public interest internships that will have them and that at least 1/3 of the people that wanted biglaw did not get it. Not a shocker, there are no jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027130)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027156)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

I hear at least 20 columbia 1Ls got firm jobs. Several are minority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027162)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig

i dont understand this. how do firms have jobs for 1Ls???????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027167)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:08 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

connections/straight As/science PhD, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027195)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:09 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027204)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:10 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

not sure about the range, but I personally know one kid with an offer from a V5. The kid got all As last semester and had a science background.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027213)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:12 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig

has to be dpw. they took 1Ls last year too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027224)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:13 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Wachtell did too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027235)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027241)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:17 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027259)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:20 PM
Author: sickened abnormal public bath rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027285)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:21 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Different dood, their nalp form says they were hiring 5 1L's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027287)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:08 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

Sounds about right, I (non-URM) got a 1L gig last year (at a firm that did layoffs a month after they offered me) as did a couple of my friends even though there was supposedly no market for 1L's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027198)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: big onyx newt den

why did you give your an offer when there was overcapacity? did you get the offer from the same firm for 2L summer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027246)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:20 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

No clue as to why, I did jack shit all summer too. I have a return offer for this summer (2 week type thing) and another offer at different firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027283)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:23 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

almost all the jobs listed for 1L summer at good firms on symplicity are "diversity fellowships" or some such

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027292)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:31 PM
Author: Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027344)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:32 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

yeah i saw that one. pretty sure i don't have a shot when they get 200+ cls apps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027349)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027367)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:41 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

lol dude you think that matters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027403)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:42 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

That's how I got my 1L gig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027408)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:43 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

fuck you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027413)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:44 PM
Author: irradiated stead pisswyrm

u mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027428)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:47 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

no u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027453)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:44 PM
Author: Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027425)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:44 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

what about having a positive attitude and an engaging, warm smile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027429)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:45 PM
Author: Ebony beady-eyed cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027439)



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Date: February 5th, 2010 7:46 PM
Author: navy marketing idea liquid oxygen

what about wearing a power tie and making sure to shake hands and make eye contact? what about having 1L business cards?

Yeah dude be careful to delete, to make sure no one OUTS YOU

nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211796&forum_id=2#14027447)