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2L Grades and perm. offers

does anyone actually know someone who didn't get an offer
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
i hear gibson dunn cares mucho about the grades
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
stfu
Carnelian school cafeteria
  05/03/10
how did your 2L grades go down so much. isn't there an easi...
soggy meetinghouse
  05/03/10
rofl, class rank is all that matters plus if you do very ...
Carnelian school cafeteria
  05/03/10
they didn't go down a ton, but assume a firm that cares as m...
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
the easier curve thing is pretty exaggerated. most schools ...
Sinister cruise ship karate
  05/03/10
...
Passionate navy public bath background story
  09/07/10
most firms don't give a shit - they don't even request trans...
cerebral ape
  05/03/10
Yeah, my firm never asked.
pink startling parlor
  05/03/10
according to some former clerks, this firm does ask. how mu...
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
All I know is the work you do will say more about...the work...
pink startling parlor
  05/03/10
which firm is this? i might be able to give you specific inf...
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
don't really want to risk it. any specific examples will su...
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
yeah, i know specific examples of many firms. that's why im ...
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
thanks FRIEND - smallest GPA difference b/n 1l and 2l you kn...
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
not gonna say unless i know the firm. this is useless otherw...
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
v50
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
whoa ok. Unless it's munger or irell, i dont know. i was thi...
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
what about for those two
Vivacious clown lettuce
  05/03/10
if variance is more than .2, ur fucked.
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
overall or per year? i thought both these firms have over 90...
Vivacious clown lettuce
  05/03/10
overall
amethyst drunken quadroon chapel
  05/03/10
thanks
Vivacious clown lettuce
  05/03/10
how do you know what your grades are?
Cream legend dopamine
  05/03/10
know 1st semester, assuming the worst this semester (althoug...
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
enjoy your gibson dunn no offer!
Stirring Shitlib
  05/03/10
what kind of drop are we talking about here? 3.7 1L to 3.5 ...
soggy meetinghouse
  05/03/10
not even that much.
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
ROFL!
Carnelian school cafeteria
  05/03/10
wtf you're fine
Dashing pearly temple gaping
  09/07/10
this thread is such a failure
cerebral ape
  05/03/10
glad you approve.
arousing menage incel
  05/03/10
all the outing shit really killed on-topic discussion. i saw...
Dashing pearly temple gaping
  05/03/10
My grades went WAY down. We'll see what happens.
Blathering Bateful Messiness
  05/03/10
you will be in shitlaw
Carnelian school cafeteria
  05/03/10
...
Blathering Bateful Messiness
  09/07/10
Choosing between a few firms for next summer, including GDC....
Passionate navy public bath background story
  09/07/10
I tend to think this GDC phenomenon is greatly exaggerated.
Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles
  09/07/10
as long as you get top 1/3 2L year you should be fine.
soggy meetinghouse
  09/07/10
just have to show that you haven't totally given up. I know...
Clear stage sex offender
  09/07/10
As in they were only top 35% or so for their 2L and 3L years...
Passionate navy public bath background story
  09/07/10
What if you are already below median and a firm makes you a ...
autistic office travel guidebook
  09/07/10
um, what?
Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles
  09/07/10
A firm makes an SA offer to you. You are below median. Take ...
autistic office travel guidebook
  09/07/10
Most firms don't care about 2L grades. If they hired you as...
Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles
  09/07/10
k, ty
autistic office travel guidebook
  09/07/10
That applies to most BigLaw firms, at least- I can's speak f...
Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles
  09/07/10
I am talking about BIGLAW.
autistic office travel guidebook
  09/07/10
I heard of one firm (v100) that told person he/she had to br...
Pearl big ticket booth idiot
  09/07/10
Aprox rank?
autistic office travel guidebook
  09/07/10
I'm guessing that person had some seriously shitty grades (C...
Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles
  09/07/10


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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:20 PM
Author: arousing menage incel
Subject: does anyone actually know someone who didn't get an offer

Because of 2L grades? Mine didn't go down a ton - It's not like I rocked straigt B's or anything - but they certainly did go down a bit. Summer clerkship is at a firm that supposedly DOES care about 2L grades, especially if you believe the XOXO minions.

Any anicdotes about someone who didn't get a permanent offer specifically because of their grades? If so, how much of a drop in GPA/percentile caused it. TYIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894875)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:22 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

i hear gibson dunn cares mucho about the grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894885)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:24 PM
Author: Carnelian school cafeteria

stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894894)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:25 PM
Author: soggy meetinghouse

how did your 2L grades go down so much. isn't there an easier curve than 1L

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894899)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM
Author: Carnelian school cafeteria

rofl, class rank is all that matters

plus if you do very well 1L your GPA barely gets easier to maintain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894924)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

they didn't go down a ton, but assume a firm that cares as much (at least reportedly) about grades as GDC. Any actual stories of autoding grade fail in this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894927)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 2:26 PM
Author: Sinister cruise ship karate

the easier curve thing is pretty exaggerated. most schools just eliminate mandatory B- or whatever and leave the curve otherwise the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895684)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Passionate navy public bath background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989314)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM
Author: cerebral ape

most firms don't give a shit - they don't even request transcripts oftentimes. there was a big thread on this recently - search "2L grades".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894919)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM
Author: pink startling parlor

Yeah, my firm never asked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894921)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:30 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

according to some former clerks, this firm does ask. how much it matters is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm also attempting to see if the GPA fail is really a myth, or if it only matters if your GPA/rank goes down substantially.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894935)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: pink startling parlor

All I know is the work you do will say more about...the work you are able to do than grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894949)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

which firm is this? i might be able to give you specific info. type itin then edit out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894952)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

don't really want to risk it. any specific examples will suffice, I'll draw my own conclusions. The problem is I hear a lot of "oh, they really care about grades", but haven't been able to track down any specific examples of clerks getting now offered b/c of grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894969)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

yeah, i know specific examples of many firms. that's why im asking.

im here to help you mang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894983)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:36 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

thanks FRIEND - smallest GPA difference b/n 1l and 2l you know of that resulted in no-offer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894993)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:37 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

not gonna say unless i know the firm. this is useless otherwise. vault rage at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895004)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:43 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

v50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895056)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:50 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

whoa ok. Unless it's munger or irell, i dont know. i was thinking V10 or V15 or something..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895109)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:58 PM
Author: Vivacious clown lettuce

what about for those two

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895144)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

if variance is more than .2, ur fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895161)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:04 PM
Author: Vivacious clown lettuce

overall or per year? i thought both these firms have over 90% offer rates. are ALL the no-offers due to grades?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895186)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:07 PM
Author: amethyst drunken quadroon chapel

overall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895204)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: Vivacious clown lettuce

thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895213)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM
Author: Cream legend dopamine

how do you know what your grades are?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894963)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

know 1st semester, assuming the worst this semester (although, honestly, I think I'll do better than last semester)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894984)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: Stirring Shitlib

enjoy your gibson dunn no offer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894985)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM
Author: soggy meetinghouse

what kind of drop are we talking about here? 3.7 1L to 3.5 2L?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895052)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:45 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

not even that much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895072)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:48 PM
Author: Carnelian school cafeteria

ROFL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895089)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:28 PM
Author: Dashing pearly temple gaping

wtf you're fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990433)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM
Author: cerebral ape

this thread is such a failure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895055)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:44 PM
Author: arousing menage incel

glad you approve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895066)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:46 PM
Author: Dashing pearly temple gaping

all the outing shit really killed on-topic discussion. i saw a pumo the other day who wouldn't give his school range. a pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895081)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: Blathering Bateful Messiness

My grades went WAY down. We'll see what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895160)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: Carnelian school cafeteria

you will be in shitlaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895209)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:50 PM
Author: Blathering Bateful Messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990073)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:23 PM
Author: Passionate navy public bath background story

Choosing between a few firms for next summer, including GDC. How much of a drop in grades is tolerated? Assume right around top 10% as 1L.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989456)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles

I tend to think this GDC phenomenon is greatly exaggerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989498)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: soggy meetinghouse

as long as you get top 1/3 2L year you should be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989500)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Clear stage sex offender

just have to show that you haven't totally given up. I know plenty who dropped top 10% 1L and graduated top 25% and nothing happened to their offers.

now if you drop from top 10 to median...well there may be hell to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989546)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:57 PM
Author: Passionate navy public bath background story

As in they were only top 35% or so for their 2L and 3L years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989739)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: autistic office travel guidebook

What if you are already below median and a firm makes you a SA offer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990216)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles

um, what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990258)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:12 PM
Author: autistic office travel guidebook

A firm makes an SA offer to you. You are below median. Take said offer. Remain below median 2L year. No offered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990274)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles

Most firms don't care about 2L grades. If they hired you as an SA, and they traditionally make near-100% offers, chances are that grades do not factor into the decision unless you really fuck up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990289)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:15 PM
Author: autistic office travel guidebook

k, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990315)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:16 PM
Author: Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles

That applies to most BigLaw firms, at least- I can's speak for any other employers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990328)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: autistic office travel guidebook

I am talking about BIGLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990394)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:47 PM
Author: Pearl big ticket booth idiot

I heard of one firm (v100) that told person he/she had to bring up their grades 3L year or offer would be rescinded. true story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990616)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:17 PM
Author: autistic office travel guidebook

Aprox rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990945)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:19 PM
Author: Geriatric Razzle-dazzle Stain Fat Ankles

I'm guessing that person had some seriously shitty grades (Cs or worse)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990967)