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Summer 2009 No-Offereds, did you find a job?

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Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/25/10
yes
Stirring private investor
  06/25/10
What's the vault range?
Poppy garrison crotch
  06/25/10
not at a firm
Stirring private investor
  06/25/10
Where then?
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/25/10
BIGFED
Stirring private investor
  06/25/10
How? Betting not through USAJOBS
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/25/10
I recounted it in great detail in this thread: http://www.x...
Stirring private investor
  06/25/10
ha I know, just f'n with you mang.
Poppy garrison crotch
  06/25/10
120
Godawful alpha mexican
  06/25/10
why all the hate today dude? I thought we were FRIENDS?
Poppy garrison crotch
  06/25/10
Maybe he was in fact insulting me, by insinuating that my va...
Stirring private investor
  06/25/10
Prob not, isn't he pretty fucked jobwise?
Poppy garrison crotch
  06/25/10
lol
heady jew deer antler
  06/25/10
yes
rusted mewling spot
  06/25/10
Where?
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/25/10
clerkship
rusted mewling spot
  06/25/10
yes, thankfully.
lascivious canary mood
  06/26/10
what?
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/26/10
Midlaw. I was resigned to failure all last year. I was...
lascivious canary mood
  06/26/10
Congrats, this is awesome. Gives me hope.
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/26/10
Did you get this from mass mailing?
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/29/10
no, i haven't found anything else. thanks hiring partner....
carmine dysfunction
  06/26/10
I wonder if I'll ever run into somebody from my ex-firm on t...
Stirring private investor
  06/26/10
I did once. I waved at him and he pretended not to see me. ...
carmine dysfunction
  06/26/10
rofl
trip water buffalo
  06/26/10
yeah, instead i walked up to him and shanked him. he cried....
carmine dysfunction
  06/26/10
Saw a partner at the firm I was no-offered at at a bar by my...
up-to-no-good hospital
  06/26/10
Dude, I feel sorry for you that this happened to you, but ma...
bearded lodge police squad
  06/26/10
are you being for real? law is practically the only indus...
Wonderful effete dopamine address
  06/26/10
boohoo
Razzmatazz Hideous Hissy Fit Legend
  06/26/10
What is "biglaw?" Do you mean a V10? If so you're...
Very tactful senate
  06/30/10
even lateraling to V10, I've seen plenty come from low V100'...
Cracking Bright Abode
  06/30/10
recent studies showed that firing bosses (or other a-holes) ...
amethyst degenerate stead
  09/01/10
recent studies showed that firing bosses (or other a-holes) ...
amethyst degenerate stead
  09/01/10
man, this is so bunk. even hard core capitalist economists ...
amethyst degenerate stead
  09/01/10
Same boat man. Same boat.
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  06/26/10
obviously the only ones who will contribute to this thread a...
trip water buffalo
  06/26/10
Obviously, because neither masochistic crybabies nor the fla...
emerald turdskin
  06/26/10
the market will take care of rat droppings in sausage
amethyst degenerate stead
  09/01/10
Yes, Army JAG. Still need to find some temp work to hold me...
lime self-centered yarmulke
  06/30/10
Interviewing V20 and V75 (actual numbers significantly highe...
Mahogany Well-lubricated Toilet Seat People Who Are Hurt
  09/01/10
seriously? stats plz
Thriller Silver Theatre New Version
  09/02/10
Top 1% w/ LR at State U. School of Flame
Passionate Crimson Hell
  09/02/10


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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:48 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339107)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:48 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339108)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:50 AM
Author: Poppy garrison crotch

What's the vault range?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339116)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:50 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

not at a firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339119)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:52 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

Where then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339137)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:53 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

BIGFED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339141)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:55 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

How? Betting not through USAJOBS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339155)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:57 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

I recounted it in great detail in this thread:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1272570&mc=84&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339166)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:52 AM
Author: Poppy garrison crotch

ha I know, just f'n with you mang.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339139)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:50 AM
Author: Godawful alpha mexican

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339123)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:53 AM
Author: Poppy garrison crotch

why all the hate today dude? I thought we were FRIENDS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339142)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:54 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

Maybe he was in fact insulting me, by insinuating that my vault range is "120" b/c it isn't a firm and thus isn't shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339145)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 11:01 AM
Author: Poppy garrison crotch

Prob not, isn't he pretty fucked jobwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339187)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:49 AM
Author: heady jew deer antler

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339111)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:52 AM
Author: rusted mewling spot

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339135)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:53 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

Where?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339140)



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Date: June 25th, 2010 10:53 AM
Author: rusted mewling spot

clerkship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15339143)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 2:01 AM
Author: lascivious canary mood

yes, thankfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15345367)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 10:44 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346337)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 12:10 PM
Author: lascivious canary mood

Midlaw.

I was resigned to failure all last year. I was applying for and being rejected by really shitty, really low paying jobs. I figured I'd probably get some kind of shitlaw a few months after being licensed.

Then out of nowhere this comparatively decent midlaw firm got back to me and asked me to interview. I had some experience w/ the kind of work they do and I highlighted that on the resume/cover letter. Once they called me in, I think it helped that I spoke highly (or at least respectfully) of the piece of shit firm that no-offered me, and that a partner at said firm was willing to vouch for me. I don't know whether they spoke with him or not, but it helped me to look them in the eye and confidently say that the no-offer was their fault, not mine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346908)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 1:26 PM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

Congrats, this is awesome. Gives me hope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15347447)



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Date: June 29th, 2010 12:46 PM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

Did you get this from mass mailing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15374161)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:19 AM
Author: carmine dysfunction

no, i haven't found anything else.

thanks hiring partner. i guess it's a good thing you kept your PPP at $1.2 million instead of $1.1 million. i'm sure you and your family needs it.

i think about killing myself every day. i guess it's a good thing i don't have the balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346047)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:24 AM
Author: Stirring private investor

I wonder if I'll ever run into somebody from my ex-firm on the street or on the train. Awkward, it would be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346050)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:29 AM
Author: carmine dysfunction

I did once. I waved at him and he pretended not to see me. I thought about walking up to him and spiting in his face. Didn't happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346051)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:33 AM
Author: trip water buffalo

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346053)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:56 AM
Author: carmine dysfunction

yeah, instead i walked up to him and shanked him. he cried. i laughed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346066)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 10:28 AM
Author: up-to-no-good hospital

Saw a partner at the firm I was no-offered at at a bar by my school during some sort of reunion. He was shitfaced, wanted to trip him, decided not to. We had an awkward "hey how's it going conversation".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346308)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 8:58 AM
Author: bearded lodge police squad

Dude, I feel sorry for you that this happened to you, but many firms were overstaffed. They shouldn't have to carry a bloated amount of employees just like we wouldn't expect a blue-collar employer to keep workers on just to shelter them from the outside world. Why shouldn't firms try to be as profitable as they can?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346200)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 9:52 AM
Author: Wonderful effete dopamine address

are you being for real?

law is practically the only industry where you get one crack at the apple. if you fuck it up AND/OR if it is taken from you, you are almost assuredly shit out of luck w/r/t biglaw. law firms know this which is why they historically maintained near 100% offer rates.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346249)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 10:11 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Hideous Hissy Fit Legend

boohoo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346283)



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Date: June 30th, 2010 9:23 AM
Author: Very tactful senate

What is "biglaw?" Do you mean a V10? If so you're pretty much right. Otherwise this is wrong. People can lateral into market-paying gigs from non market-paying gigs and do so all of the time. Probably half of the associates I knew at my V50 summer firm did this.

Fucking relax with this noise, it's wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15382065)



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Date: June 30th, 2010 10:35 AM
Author: Cracking Bright Abode

even lateraling to V10, I've seen plenty come from low V100's or even unranked firms. Granted, WLRK and CSM probably won't take you. Granted also, most of the laterals (but certainly not all) had decent "stats" like T14, honors, clerkship, etc. Point being, your first firm doesnt determine your career

Plus, the "higher up" you go in the V-rankings, the higher chance you'll be a burnout and burnout sooner. CSM, half the associates leave after the first 1.5-2y rotation. Especially ITE where more are forced out, I'm pretty sure most end up taking far less prestigious/lucrative positions to follow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15382323)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: amethyst degenerate stead

recent studies showed that firing bosses (or other a-holes) interpret ambiguity about an a-hole decision in a more positive light than is reasonable to justify their selfish decisions.

ie i fire him but he be fine even though conventional wisdom only a year ago was that no offer ruins your life and we ourselves explicitly stated this during offer discussions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15942613)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: amethyst degenerate stead

recent studies showed that firing bosses (or other a-holes) interpret ambiguity about an a-hole decision in a more positive light than is reasonable to justify their selfish decisions.

ie i fire him but he be fine even though conventional wisdom only a year ago was that no offer ruins your life and we ourselves explicitly stated this during offer discussions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15942642)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 9:10 PM
Author: amethyst degenerate stead

man, this is so bunk. even hard core capitalist economists right now are reconsidering ideas like the one you just expressed after seeing the harm caused ite.

we already have laws in place to protect against this kind of thing in some situations (ie tortious interference with contract "why should it be wrong to get someone to break their K if they can make more money?")

fyi do you have an econ background? it's obnoxious when non-econ background people discuss these things. their understanding is so limited they spout off some basic talking points they've heard without having much understanding about what they heck they're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15942639)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 10:44 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

Same boat man. Same boat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346338)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 6:33 AM
Author: trip water buffalo

obviously the only ones who will contribute to this thread are the ones who did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346054)



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Date: June 26th, 2010 10:47 AM
Author: emerald turdskin

Obviously, because neither masochistic crybabies nor the flames who emulate them exist to any noticeable degree among xo poasters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15346347)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 9:14 PM
Author: amethyst degenerate stead

the market will take care of rat droppings in sausage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15942668)



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Date: June 30th, 2010 8:39 AM
Author: lime self-centered yarmulke

Yes, Army JAG. Still need to find some temp work to hold me over until I ship, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15381983)



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Date: September 1st, 2010 8:55 PM
Author: Mahogany Well-lubricated Toilet Seat People Who Are Hurt

Interviewing V20 and V75 (actual numbers significantly higher in each range).

Working a six-figure job in the meantime outside law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15942507)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 12:07 AM
Author: Thriller Silver Theatre New Version

seriously? stats plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15944539)



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Date: September 2nd, 2010 1:25 AM
Author: Passionate Crimson Hell

Top 1% w/ LR at State U. School of Flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1348845&forum_id=2#15945271)