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Date: September 4th, 2010 8:31 AM Author: swashbuckling bat-shit-crazy coffee pot Does anyone know anything about the usefulness of an MS in computer science? Do people get good jobs coming out of these things? Pay? Are they possible to do part-time?
I'm thinking of getting a MS, either as a way to get out of law totally or as a way to shift into patent stuff. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: slap-happy selfie "or as a way to shift into patent stuff"...
not so much |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:19 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage what's your undergrad major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16075999) |
Date: September 18th, 2010 3:08 PM Author: plum state The law degree may scare employers until you prove you enjoy programming. Release open source applications on the side to prove you can code and enjoy doing it. Otherwise you may have trouble proving you're not a risk.
If you are bailing mid law school ignore this, then people will just write you off as not interested in practicing law (easy when you consider the personality of most engineers).
It pays pretty well, particularly if you live in a cheap area. I was 4/4 for programming interviews recently and 3/4 for offers. The pay is more than shitlaw but less than top law. It's almost exactly in the valley of the bimodal lawyer salary distribution.
I have a BS in comp sci but MS in related field if that helps ya out.
There are tons of comp sci grads who can't code at all. If you can and don't have crushing debt you'll be fine. You need nerd credentials too and releasing applications is a huge way to prove you enjoy programming. It's useful to know how to talk to engineers and businessmen. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:10 PM Author: deranged principal's office clown if you live near silicon valley there's a lot of jobs in the 80K-100K starting range w/ a MS CS at places like Google, Cisco, Facebook, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16075945) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: plum state these are hard jobs to get without top credentials. if you are not top class as a student you have to pay your dues (afterward though taking these jobs is not a problem).
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: slap-happy selfie They don't recruit at places like podunk state.
They get top undergrads...not shit MS students. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:28 PM Author: plum state there are actually 2 ways into places like google. be a top scholar or have the credentials and experience with people who can vouch for you.
i know someone who works there from a state school without stellar grades. he paid his dues in smaller jobs for a couple years...he knows his shit and they saw that in the interview and his record. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage they are not nearly as exclusive as i-banks or whatever, because even Google has to hire people to debug and maintain old codes, and no "brilliant" CS people wants to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076061) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: slap-happy selfie I did engineering in undergrad, Mister.
I know where these places recruit. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:30 PM Author: stubborn azn where a virgin in college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076065) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: slap-happy selfie i just even know what parlance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076069) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:32 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party epic failure of a post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076074) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:34 PM Author: stubborn azn u mad virgin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076086) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party Sorry you can't write anything coherent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076096) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: slap-happy selfie no shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076100) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: stubborn azn I'm sorry you can't get any pussy
you mad azn? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:38 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party I'm surprised...you selected words that make sense in context and put them in the right order. This is an impressive improvement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076109) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:39 PM Author: slap-happy selfie At least he speaks ARE country language (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076113) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:33 PM Author: plum state i have 3 science degrees, one of which is comp sci and one of which is advanced. my friend works at google. i am a programmer and so are most of my friends.
but you did engineering once, right? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: slap-happy selfie "but you did engineering once, right?"
My UG friends work at MS, facebook, Intel, Boeing, Google, etc.
Am I more qualified to make an assessment than you are now? |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:36 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party lol, he's obviously more qualified (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076098) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:40 PM Author: stubborn azn u mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076121) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: plum state i work at a company that could fit in that list. i have other friends who work there too.
there are two ways in these companies. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: stubborn azn could implies that it doesn't u mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076133) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: slap-happy selfie I have done work for several of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076134) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: stubborn azn your either a turdskin or an azn that lacked the necessary social graces or personality to go into medicine or finance......you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076144) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: slap-happy selfie I have an MBA from HBS.
Try again.
Probably whiter than you are. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: stubborn azn I have Nordic ancestors...you mad Irish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076175) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: slap-happy selfie You'll age well...I'm sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076182) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: stubborn azn ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076192) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:50 PM Author: slap-happy selfie that was sarcasm.
you'll look like a handbag by 30.
HTH |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: stubborn azn Irish are the niggers of the white race how does this make you feel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076212) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party You're obviously a chink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076217) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:53 PM Author: slap-happy selfie Why would you think I'm Irish? Try again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076224) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:54 PM Author: stubborn azn cause it's obvious your from one of the lesser white races your either slavic or Irish and slavs are too stupid to be on this board (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076231) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: slap-happy selfie I'm from the race that tried to wipe out all the lesser ones.
I know about Hitler, sir.
You're not good enough for him. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:00 PM Author: stubborn azn I have both Sioux and Nordic blood in me both alpha races you mad Irish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076284) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party Wrong, you're a chink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076293) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:04 PM Author: slap-happy selfie He obviously doesn't know much about his Sioux ancestry.
He's fucking Asian. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:03 PM Author: slap-happy selfie Sioux....LO F'ING L.
Just move on. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Trip sanctuary LOL @ the thought of needing any social grace or personality to go into medicine. med schools have some of the biggest aspies outside of computer science departments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076172) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: stubborn azn Med Schools have interviews to weed out the smart aspies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076185) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party That's not what those interviews are for. Walk around a med school for a while...it's full of smart aspies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076193) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: slap-happy selfie So do MBA programs...they don't look for compassion.
Don't expect that from me, either. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: plum state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076152) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: slap-happy selfie What? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076155) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: plum state i have seen people get in these companies from a state school. both directly and with low gpa made up for with successful work experience. if you haven't then maybe you don't hang out with state school people.
like they would refuse to hire someone from state school with published papers/top of their class.
google recruits at web developer conferences. anyone who shows up and knows what they're doing can end up working there. i know people who took this route. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: slap-happy selfie WTF? Some of the best science/engineering schools ARE state schools.
Directional state U isn't exactly Berkeley.
I think you misunderstood my bitchy comment. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: plum state eh...my uncle went high up GE engineering from podunk state. real high up. my state school isn't the best but it's no slouch and probably closer to what you mentioned.
i think we agree more than we think.
regardless, an excellent coder with no degree will get hired at these places. john carmack dropped out of college and he'd get hired as a senior at Microsoft in a second.
programming is a weird field where you can just write the program to prove you know how. carmack and a few others take this route. i think i do mostly agree with you if you'll note this small exception. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:56 PM Author: stubborn azn John Carmack also created Doom...you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076252) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:56 PM Author: plum state that was my point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076261) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:57 PM Author: slap-happy selfie The best way to kill a programmer's career is to teach him to think critically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076266) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:00 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076285) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party That's a weird response to posts that are obviously serious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076289) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:31 PM Author: slap-happy selfie No shit...these people need to fucking relax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076584) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:29 PM Author: plum state many math majors code. i guarantee they would blow away your critical thinking skills. i can't even take you seriously. half of programming is logical structure. if you hadn't posted this i may have believed you were a reasonable person.
i was trying to be nice but i can cut that bullshit. face it, your portfolio is everything in coding. you're a fucking moron if you don't accept that. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage "programming is a weird field where you can just write the program to prove you know how. carmack and a few others take this route. i think i do mostly agree with you if you'll note this small exception."
Exactly. If your portfolio/past work is SHIT, no prestigious degree can save you, and vice versa. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:21 PM Author: slimy misanthropic nursing home jewess lol you don't just get a job at Google (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076015) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: stubborn azn You mad azn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076106) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:43 PM Author: slimy misanthropic nursing home jewess at the horrible naivete of some poasters? no i just lol cause I don't know shit either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076141) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Tantric comical internal respiration therapy Earnings top out in the very low 6 figures. No good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076136) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: stubborn azn you mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076149) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:47 PM Author: Tantric comical internal respiration therapy Mad at dudes who will never sniff $250k in their life? No
I wish tem well, however. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: slimy misanthropic nursing home jewess all CS guys want is the latest gadget, enough to climb mountains/hike, and a boat to sleep on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076164) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage wrong, you can break 200k easily doing traditional CS work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076188) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:50 PM Author: Tantric comical internal respiration therapy Yea, in extra high cost of living areas by like 42.
No good. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage What are you comparing it to? 200k+ non-management salary compares well to most industries.
And the industries that beat it, like finance, also hires CS people... and the difference is that finance people are overpaid, while CS people are underpaid for how much value they create. |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:51 PM Author: Trip sanctuary a good # of the smart and hard working ones build their own startups and can end up pwning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076205) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 3:58 PM Author: Tantric comical internal respiration therapy I'm not referring to the winners, only the losers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076278) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: Awkward Boyish Stead Old Irish Cottage most of you are so fucking stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076313) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: slap-happy selfie We all are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076319) |
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Date: September 18th, 2010 4:05 PM Author: emerald glittery lay reading party If you don't like it here, go away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1414126&forum_id=2#16076320) |