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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:35 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena kristy.baker 8:25 PM EDT Volokh -- the University has a Code of Conduct. THAT is what ruled here, not the US Constitution. It's perfectly legal and who'd want their child to attend a University without such a code? |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:03 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
This thread needs to be bumped every single time that a shitlib suggests that liberals are smarter than conservatives. Every single time. Without fail. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:05 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Lib here, and I say TITCTTNTBBESTTASSTLASTCESTWF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466905) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel I can actually see their main point about the code of conduct coming from a 100 IQ layman's perspective, but the main problem is the commenters assuming their are way smarter than a top law school prof. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466911) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease The lack of humility is extraordinary. I think it's #1 sign of being 100 IQ prole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466929) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467010) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks Cr. Smarts recognize how much they don't know. 100 IQ proles will pontificate on anything and everything like a got dam expert. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467012) |
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Date: September 5th, 2016 10:35 PM Author: Transparent Home Pervert unfortunately not. i know plenty of smart people who, with no background at all in THE LAW, argue with me about it every day. they think it's just like politics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31343776) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:08 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Yeah, I was thinking this too. The average person doesn't really think of the 'government' as including a state university. I understand that, but it's the smugness and the hubris--the inability to take a moment to investigate whether an expert on a subject might have a point before jumping in with their uninformed opinion--that's infuriating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466934) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel I think it is sign of both political sides writing constant opinion pieces about why their side is obviously right (I see more libs doing this, but reptiles do it too). I don't think laypeople are used to dispassionate analytical writing. I think they think they win if they have the most tweets and yell the loudest. We may be fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466967) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:27 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete I was a victim of that today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467137) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:29 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Find a board for dumber people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467153) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:38 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467221) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:39 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete That would be a challenge.
'Adams and Field believe that mobbing is typically found in work environments that have poorly organised production or working methods and incapable or inattentive management and that mobbing victims are usually "exceptional individuals who demonstrated intelligence, competence, creativity, integrity, accomplishment and dedication".' |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:42 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
," lisped the Dunning-Kruger posterchild. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:43 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467264) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:44 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete Give it up, TBF. I have never seen you post anything remotely interesting or intelligent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467273) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:45 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
The irony in this subthread is delicious. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:46 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete Indeed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467290) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:46 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467288) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:41 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea Dude, you were the victim of your own hubris and inability to accept the slightest criticism or potential that you made a mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467248) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:45 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete I was not subject to "slight criticism" -- I was attacked by a bunch of animals who (wrongly) assumed I objected to yelling nigger on a bus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467283) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:54 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part what? cons virtually never toss out a "we're obviously right" argument. that's 98% a lib thing. libs are preternaturally incapable of seeing the other side of an issue. it's either they're right or it's the holocaust. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467338) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:56 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete Really? No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467364) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:58 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel I am a reptile, so it is harder for me to criticize reptiles. But I think there are cases where reptiles criticize Obama's pussy foreign policy and blindly assert that it will result in disaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467379) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 2:32 AM Author: green volcanic crater sanctuary lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468489) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:26 AM Author: swashbuckling henna church building lolololololol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27475272) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:34 PM Author: jade toilet seat ...remind me which party is very fond of shouting "if you don't like it get out" or "my country love it or leave it" and other platitudinous bullshit like that i'm not saying rapetiles are a 98% majority in this, but LOL at the fucking RETARDED belief that shitlibs commit 98% of these offenses |
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Date: December 30th, 2015 12:44 AM Author: titillating federal market haunted graveyard [irony masterman] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#29482117) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part FCUK U FAGGOT ILL FUCK U UP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33813856) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 11:25 AM Author: vibrant at-the-ready turdskin word, everyone's always in advocacy mode and no one can have an honest conversation.
and hardly anyone realizes this! they think they're doing "NUANCED (fuck me) CRITICAL THINKING", but no, their reptilian/shitlib brains are actually conditioned to frantically spew some unintentionally sophistic bullshit whenever presented with a counterpoint. everyone's always way too sure and no one takes a second to question their own premises and/or logic.
the only differences between the fox/reptile crowd and the gawker/shitlib crowd are their conclusions, the appalling "thought" processes are the same |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:12 PM Author: jade toilet seat TWIST: every one of us exhibits the exact same smugness and hubris about shitloads of stuff on xo and irl 24/7 you know who's humble? socrates, that's about it |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
You can see their point about how a contractual provision overrides the constitution?
Because it really takes that extra bump up to a 110 IQ to realize that if state actors could just contract their way out of constitutional limitations, they would always do it and the Bill of Rights would be rendered totally meaningless?
There's no other way to slice this pie brother: failing to immediately grasp that incredibly obvious point = shitthought. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel 100 or 110 IQ is really pretty dumb. I think they could grasp the correct understanding if it was explained to them slowly, but I don't think they are going to arrive there on their own. I think this thread proves that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466980) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
Fuck me. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye I think it's more that the average person doesn't think of a state university as 'the government' the same way that they've been taught to think of 'the government' in the 1st Amendment context. I think that's the conceptual hurdle for them.
If they do understand that, and somehow think that the contract has magical powers, then I agree with your scathing assessment. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:14 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
That's fair, and I don't think that's nearly as stupid, frankly. There's a level of nuance there that wouldn't necessarily be immediately obvious to someone who isn't used to thinking about private v. public distinctions.
But based on the posts copied in this thread, there seem to be a lot of liberals commenting on this article who concede that a public university is a state actor and concede that the First Amendment is therefore potentially implicated, but nevertheless argue that it's overriden here because the university has adopted a "Code of Conduct".
That's fucking horrifying. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye I agree completely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467003) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467008) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel And obviously a lot of people think "hate speech" has no 1st Amendment protection. If some evil lib lies to them and teaches them this, how are the proles to know better? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467017) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
That's pretty bad too, but I can also forgive that on some level because there are exceptions and carve outs for species of speech that isn't protected (direct threats) or is subject to less stringent protection (commercial speech), and there are semi-reasonable normative public policy arguments for why hate speech should be one such exception. I don't agree, obviously, but you don't have to be batshit insane or totally retarded to think otherwise.
You do have to be batshit insane or totally retarded to think that government institutions can just draft up a few sentences on a piece of paper and contract their way, directly with each individual citizen one at a time, around the constitutionally-imposed limitations that our society has collectively imposed on them. That literally defeats the entire purpose of enacting a Bill of Rights in the first place and goes against the very concept of Constitutional law and the amendment process, which we all learned about back in 7th grade or whatever. What the fuck. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:18 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks Libs want a first amendment exception to any speech they find NOT OK. That's what is horrifying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467030) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:18 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467035) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:19 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain blank stare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467042) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks "We have a right to be free from your hateful speech!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467055) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 1:42 AM Author: Laughsome mentally impaired quadroon juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468363) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca and completely unsurprising. nobody intelligent enough to understand xo should be surprised by this
THLIPPERY THLOPE FALLATHY 4EVA |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:18 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467034) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: plum comical rehab psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467104) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:52 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part horrying? calm down turdskin. we've established on this bort for ages that libs are beyond mentally ill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467330) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: vigorous office affirmative action there's no question you can be expelled from a university for speech that violates the code of conduct but would be protected by the first amendment outside of the university context. if you walk up to a professor and call him a bitch ass nigger, you can be expelled. probably 1a protected otherwise (although maybe fighting words) in other words, universities can have more stringent time place and manner restrictions than say, cities. also the contracting around constitutional limitations is the unconstitutional conditions doctrine. i personally agree with you, but to say its settled law and that "failing to immediately grasp that incredibly obvious point = shitthought" is wrong |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:34 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
I hear you, but you're also talking about time and place restrictions. I think most laymen implicitly understand that you have a legal right to repeat the word "nigger" all you want on your porch in the middle of the day and the cops can't come arrest you just for doing that, but they can arrest you for disturbing the peace if you're screaming it out your windows at midnight, or if you're repeating it 2 inches away from someone else's face as you maddog them. And sure, public universities have more leeway in imposing time and place restrictions on speech than traditional public gathering places like a city sidewalk or a public park.
But what we're talking about in this case is *content* regulation, which is another beast entirely. It's one thing to say that I can't distribute my pamphlet during class because that's disruptive to the educational process and the school doesn't like that, and it's something else entirely to say that I can't distribute my pamphlet because it is critical of President Obama and this is a pro-Obama school. I would have thought that would be an incredibly obvious point to just about everyone with a room temperate IQ, but apparently there are a lot of folks out there who seem to think that as long as I sign a contract with the University agreeing not to criticize Obama as long as I am a student, they have every legal right to expel me if they find out that I said I didn't like his "dumbass" foreign policy while I was drinking in my dorm. That's a sobering thought. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:35 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467203) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:42 PM Author: vigorous office affirmative action agree completely, just wanted to clarify that, for some set of cases, the university code of conduct can impose speech restrictions more stringent than would be permissible if the government imposed them in its capacity as government. so while the commenter is probably wrong here, she doesn't strike me as all that retarded for a layperson however, if that was a bus to class instead of a party bus, and you sang about niggers, i could see the university imposing discipline under the code of conduct and not running afoul of the 1A
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:45 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete (10th grader)
OH WHAT AN INTELLECT! |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:48 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
Well at least one of us passed 7th grade AP US History. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:51 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete God, you make me ill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467325) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:55 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
That's the HIV |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:57 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete That was not clever, interesting, or funny. Try again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467371) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 2:22 AM Author: Motley Rigpig Mediation No man. I chuckled because you are getting gaped by TBF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468463) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:27 PM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency It was funny. Mean, but funny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472236) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:50 PM Author: bonkers karate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467321) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:25 PM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency Posting in a classic TBF thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472227) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:39 PM Author: jade toilet seat "if you walk up to a professor and call him a bitch ass nigger, you can be expelled" lol wtf no you can't JFCCCCCCCCCC i don't want to live in a world where that is true |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:11 PM Author: vigorous office affirmative action do you think you can be disciplined? do you think that discipline would run afoul of the first amendment? if no to 1, dont know what to tell you if yes to 1 and no to 2, explain why the severity of the punishment imposed has significance under the first amendment's free speech clause |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 3:48 PM Author: vigorous office affirmative action wish you'd respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483816) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: Impertinent heady station philosopher-king the lulziest post on there was one calling volokh out for being a journalist who didn't get OU's side on the matter, including some comment about how OU had lawyers who undoubtedly reviewed it and could fill him in on the legal basis.
lololollololol
EDIT: Taylor Swift quoted it below. 180. |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 1:44 PM Author: swashbuckling henna church building NEWSFLASH:Most people are not aspie law students and lawyers and had no idea who the fuck "Volokh" is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27476596) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:42 PM Author: jade toilet seat literally right there on the sidebar: "About The Volokh Conspiracy "Mostly law professors," This is case in point - commenter flaps his fucking mouth before stopping for one second to ignore his rage-filled hubris to see if maybe JUST MAYBE the guy he's talking to isn't a "journalist" when you know THERE IS NO REASON AT FUCKING ALL TO THINK YOU'RE SAFE IN ASSUMING A BLOGGER IS A JOURNALIST |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:42 PM Author: Sick insecure death wish There are plenty of dumb people on the left but they don't control the left's dialogue or set policy. Compare to 47 republican senators sending snarky possibly illegal letter to Iran. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467262) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:46 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca *goes to cali* *has consensual sex but forgets to ask if it's okay to give her the D* *is clapped in irons for violation of "yes means yes" law* *left celebrates winning a battle in the WAR ON WOMYN(TM)* |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:48 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete Except that one of these things happened and one of them is a figment of the overheated reptile imagination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467307) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:51 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca (benzo 2.0) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467326) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:52 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete (autoadmit moron 7,845) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467331) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:56 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca flame aside, tbf's right ur catty one-liner game is weak as fuck for an xo gaydood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467360) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:59 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete I really don't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467386) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:47 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
If you don't think the lunatics have taken over the asylum on the left over the last few years, you've been in a coma.
(NOTE: This is not intended to be a defense of idiotic Republican bullshit, of which there is also concededly plenty these days.) |
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Date: December 28th, 2017 2:58 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#35023710) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:49 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel http://www.thelastgreatstand.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/23ABC65900000578-2857549-image-14_1417539829796.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467315) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:54 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena https://i.imgur.com/ttanVYK.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467341) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:56 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Stop poasting that pic.
I refuse to believe people protested the racist system because a kid said nigger then got expelled. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:02 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Students at the University of Oklahoma protest racist comments made by a fraternity on Monday, March 9, 2015 in Norman, Okla. University President David Boren lambasted members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity on Monday who participated in a racist chant caught on video, calling them disgraceful and their behavior reprehensible, and ordered that their house be vacated by midnight Tuesday. | The Oklahoman, Steve Sisney / AP Photo
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/technology/article13067057.html |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:02 PM Author: bonkers karate oh jesus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467415) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:59 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye http://www.vnews.com/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=A8rakXubg3nKTe943GTHrM$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYuzDqL71jJ5WgmP$oIGSg8gWCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_CryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467387) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:24 AM Author: swashbuckling henna church building Should one example of a white person saying something stupid be bumped every time xoxo posters say whites are smarter than blacks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27475267) |
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Date: April 4th, 2015 9:09 PM Author: hyperactive soul-stirring kitty gay wizard to be fair,
your bitcoin threads need bumped every single time you suggest that you're smarter than anyone. |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:46 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#34914829) |
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Date: August 4th, 2016 12:17 PM Author: Cracking crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31105431) |
Date: March 10th, 2015 9:36 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466654) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:36 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena youngmindoldbody 8:41 PM EDT If the student commits to the code of conduct as a precondition of being admitted, the code takes precedence....it is called a contract. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:36 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (Lochner court majority) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466658) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: plum comical rehab psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466725) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:57 PM Author: disgusting shitlib range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466822) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:28 AM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency Love a Lochner joke in the morning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469010) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:50 AM Author: Brass temple son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469317) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:44 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch CR, contracts are supreme. ever heard of the supremacy clause? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467274) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:46 PM Author: jade toilet seat *is IRS commissioner* *creates regulation saying that by filing your taxes you waive your second amendment right* *no more legal guns except by superpoors* |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:36 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena kristy.baker 8:26 PM EDT As Americans, we do have free speech WHICH also means we are not free from condemnation for such speech. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: smoky aphrodisiac address people who are hurt ("Condemns" your anti-government speech to six years in prison) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466720) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:08 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch lol. kristy baker it literally does not mean that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467478) |
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Date: March 21st, 2015 9:08 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27529843) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:37 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena jet0001 8:09 PM EDT Each student assumes an obligation to obey all rules and regulations made by the University... to discharge such duties as a student with diligence, fidelity, and honor. Furthermore, each student is expected to exemplify, on and off-campus, the characteristics that comprise the following core values of the University of Central Oklahoma: Character, Community, and Civility. University of Oklahoma – Code of Conduct
1st Amendment rights are a moot point. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:45 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye *University makes rule forbidding use of contraception and abortion* *jet0001 is totally okay with this* |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:23 PM Author: bonkers karate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467089) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:09 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467486) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: rose liquid oxygen telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466778) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:37 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Kaneohe Hawaii 8:07 PM EDT Institutions of higher learning have codes of conduct that prohibit specific behaviors. These students clearly violated that code, and they were expelled. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:37 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca where's theo, clear examples of reptiles not understanding teh 1st amendment ALL UP itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466668) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:00 PM Author: Citrine lascivious institution keepsake machete I saw this shit show, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466857) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466949) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:38 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena AsperGirl 8:05 PM EDT [Edited] I'm sorry, but I can't agree with volokh on this one. A university isn't simply the jack-booted state, but an educational institution with honor codes. No one with behavior of such low character who acts in such a way to disgrace themselves and the school has the right to claim a First Amendment infringement case. They were singing about killing other students over race. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Amusing post/moniker synergy with this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466717) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:11 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch people with low character may NOT claim to have first amendment protections (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467516) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:38 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena jedg1 7:49 PM EDT I'd say that there's an implied threat in the line in the chant You can hang him from a tree that goes beyond simple free speech.
and that is part of the college conduct issue. isn't it. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 8:44 AM Author: spectacular black depressive stag film Isn't this a fair point? Threats of violence aren't protected. I guess you can argue it was a joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468850) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:39 AM Author: Tan Histrionic Plaza Sex Offender "Argue its a joke"?
Really? Does any single person honestly believe they were out cruising for a darkie to lynch? |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:40 AM Author: Thirsty location factory reset button Hi! (typical shitlib who is really that insane) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469266) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:39 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena jcrfinancial 7:45 PM EDT THE SCHOOL HAS ACODE OF CONDUCT, SENT THEM HOME |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease very odd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466754) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:12 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch hm didnt think about it from that angle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467530) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:43 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Dick Hamilton 7:05 PM EDT Your kidding... right? Since when are people not accountable for the things that they say... try threatening the president if you want some experience with that. (Of course, the author wants the attention that an outrageous position will bring him...). Suggesting that the U of O cannot enforce basic civility among its students is the same reasoning that has destroyed our k-12 educational system. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:44 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Tobit 6:43 PM EDT The UofOk Student Code of Conduct writes (emphasis mine):
Students and faculty each have responsibility for maintaining an appropriate learning environment. Students who fail to adhere to the established code of conduct may be subject to disciplinary action. Faculty have the professional responsibility to set reasonable standards and behavioral expectations for their classroom and the obligation to take the appropriate course of action when student behavior substantially interferes with the ability of a faculty member to teach or the ability of other students to learn.
The faculty member can handle most inappropriate behaviors at the time of the disruption; however, some situations may require consultation, University disciplinary action, and/or immediate emergency response. This guide has been designed by the Student Conduct Office to assist you to assess problem behavior and to determine the appropriate course of action.
http://www.ou.edu/content/eoo.html
From that page you get links to policies and procedures. All students agree to these policies and must abide by them.
This is not free speech, it is hate speech and is entirely incompatible with higher educational learning. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:44 PM Author: multi-colored menage What's the context here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466704) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye These are comments to the Volokh post on the whole Oklahoma brou ha ha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466724) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:59 PM Author: emerald frozen kitty cat corner link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466847) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:00 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466851) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:45 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena BobandCathy Villa 6:43 PM EDT What Constitutional freedom of speech is---- freedom of speech IS the restriction on the government from making laws that restrict what people can say. That is it, nothing more, nothing less. Freedom of speech is NOT--the freedom to just run around and say what ever you want with no community or social consequences. It is not the freedom from being held accountable if your speech leads/causes the violation of other laws. It is not the freedom to violate community standards/codes of conduct of a community/entity/group you are voluntarily associated with and voluntarily agree to by having that association. This has nothing to with Freedom of Speech and NOTHING in the Constitution protects your speech from any consequences other than those issued by the federal government. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:30 PM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency It's like their pea-brains internalized the arguments against Sarah Palin and are spitting them out devoid of understanding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472265) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:47 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease paosting in support.
people are idiots. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:47 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Cat Fud 5:52 PM EDT This isn't a case of the Government penalizing its citizens for their speech (or exercising prior censorship of it). It's a case of a university taking action against students. Nobody has an inherent right to student body membership in a particular university, just as nobody has an inherent right to employment at a particular corporation. Both are privileges, and both are contingent on adherence to the rules established by each. This is no Constitutional issue. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye *Is kicked out of public university for being a minority* *Is okay because 'no inherent right to student body membership.'* |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:31 PM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency Just do tell Eugene Volokh there is no constitutional issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472268) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:05 PM Author: jade toilet seat seriously if i were him i would never read the comments ever again (I remember he used to read and respond to tons of them back before it was a wapo section) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483227) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:47 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Ashley Scott 5:48 PM EDT President Boren was totally within his limits to expel them. Do you know what a Code of Conduct is?
I'm a student at OU, and I had to sign one. We sign them because we are (supposed to be) responsible adults attending a public university, and have to represent both our college and community as such. Those guys had to sign one. And what they did blatantly violated the contract. Boren isn't overreaching at all - had he expelled all of the members on that bus, he would have been. But that's not what he did.
Do a little research before posting garbage like this, please. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:48 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena TwelveInchPianist 5:57 PM EDT Do a little research before posting garbage like this, please.
Do a little research, provide some court cases supporting his proposition that universities can't discipline students based on their speech? Um, he did that. You think a prof of first amendment law hasn't done a little research on the first amendment? Maybe you do some research? |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:48 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Ashley Scott 6:02 PM EDT I did, that's why I posted a response. He's an expert on court cases and the 1st amendment, sure... but apparently not an expert on what a contract is. You can cite references all day long - a violated contract is a violated contract. I stand by my statement that Boren had every right to expel those guys for breaking a contract they chose to sign when becoming students at the university. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:49 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466747) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: smoky aphrodisiac address people who are hurt We are seriously done here. I'm not kidding or flaming or exaggerating. We're done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466760) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease Yeah. I guess every time I wonder why lawyers exist, when the law is so fucking obvious and easy, I'll try to remember this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466767) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466820) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:01 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena that's why i'm posting all of these comments. they show just how profoundly out-of-touch we are with the fucking bill of rights, something EVERYONE should be familiar with. it just shows how horribly uneducated we, as americans, actually are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466867) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:02 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye CR, we need some sort of mandatory national civics curriculum.
The problem of course is that there's no way to pull that off without it getting simultaneously shitlibbed up and conturded up. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks Why is this shit not taught in high school? Probably because 80% of teachers would get it wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467073) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena they don't want you to learn it, because it undermines their ability to indoctrinate. just look at common core: they're dumbing down the population so they can more effectively exercise control over everyone by making positions on social issues decide elections (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467098) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 12:54 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27482761) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: swashbuckling henna church building We're "done here" because laymen don't understand contracts?
OK, aspie. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye *University president screaming "We had a contract!" as frat boys make racist chants* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466772) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:48 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena kfreed 5:21 PM EDT I notice that racist conservative/libertarians such as Volokh are quick to claim the right of free speech when it comes to racists promoting violence (the promotion of lynching certainly qualifies). Yes, Volokh, a university has a duty to maintain order and to provide a safe environment for all students. Aren't you libertarians the very same individuals claiming that money is speech and therefore buying elections is perfectly legit? Well, I've got news for you. Decent people will be damned before we allow your racist ilk to suggest that free speech extends to terrorizing kids on college campuses.
We also note, that your free speech pearl clutching doesn't extend to those expressing rather mild criticism of whites: Eugene Volokh Slams Salon for Printing Racist Screed Against White Belly Dancers http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2014/03/...
Can it, Volokh. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Is "kfreed" a member of the NYT editorial board? Because they write like it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466783) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Volokh is done here now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466791) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:54 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca LOLLLLLLLL oh god could he not have worked in commercial speech too just to come at it from one more incorrect angle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466795) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea The fucking hubris of these people, to be so ADAMANT in their ridiculous reasoning, is just infuriating.
I assume Volokh will write an update addressing the code of conduct BS. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:04 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena If Volokh read those comments, he's probably hanging from a rafter beam in his office right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466892) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 2:28 AM Author: Laughsome mentally impaired quadroon juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468479) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:10 AM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency Lol, strong words for XO and coming from you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469168) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena squier13 4:33 PM EDT First Amendment arguments are irrelevant, the guys agreed to a code of conduct, which every university has, and they broke the agreement. You break the rules, you get kicked out. Simple. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Khal Spencer 4:40 PM EDT Here is OU's Conduct code. The students are entitled to contest this expulsion and were given, at last time I checked, till Friday to file a response. Plus, conduct codes at public universities cannot violate Constitutional protections. Protections at private colleges are not as robust. http://www.ou.edu/content/dam/studentlife/documents/AllCampusStudentCode.pdf |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:05 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain hmm "Student Rights Students of the University of Oklahoma are guaranteed certain rights by the Constitutions of the United States and the State of Oklahoma and the University of Oklahoma Student Association. Those documents are controlling and any questions of student rights must be decided on the language contained in those documents." but there is a CODE OF CONDUCT!!! |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Blue Ravioli 4:21 PM EDT First, I believe that most universities have rules of comportment that all students must agree to when they enroll. Schools also have agreements with fraternities and sororities (that are often ignored, but they do exist.)
Second, this is not a racist slip-of-the-tongue, or an elementary racist rant, this is practiced and repeated hate speech. Pledging to not only keep African Americans out of the fraternity, but to lynch them? This kind of mentality goes hand in hand with the denial about campus rape. A Duke fraternity is now suspended during investigation because of an alleged gang rape. Sue if you wish, but don't be surprised if the dirty laundry of the nationwide fraternity is placed in full view all over the nation - the Oklahoma incident will pale in comparison. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:55 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Ok, this one is flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466802) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena rc95959 4:07 PM EDT The mans job is to have a safe environment at school, you didnt need 10 paragraphs to come to conclusion that these racist idiots were creating the potential for violence towards them from others. This article is complete garbage. Im tired of people parroting this ridiculous notion that the 1st amendment protects you from consequences of your speech, when it flat out doesnt. We obviously have limitations and hate speech is not always protected so that line was also completely false.
You cant just always hide behind the 1st amendment. Being in a college is not some inherent right so it can be taken away. There is incredible consistency with regards to this in the USA. My employer can fire me for things I say and a college can expel you for things you say. I just cant imagine how the authors claim that the President cant expel these morons would ever stand up in Court. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:00 PM Author: Lime Well-lubricated Parlor No racist but this poster sounds black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466859) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:58 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena nah, he said my employer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467377) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Joe Miller 4:15 PM EDT Your employer can fire you for things you say while at work because legally your employer has complete control over what you can and can not say. Just as a University has complete control what can and can not be said in the course of an education. This speech clearly does not fall under this category. Never did the author state that there would be no consequences for the students speech, just that it was out of the governments ability to add to those consequences.
Please read and understand, this will help you in the future. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel lol at that last line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466818) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:03 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye "Govern yourself accordingly." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466883) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena keithrjackson 3:59 PM EDT [Edited] This article seems not very thought out. From how I always looked at the First Amendment it protects individuals from being put in jail or prosecuted for speech. It says nothing about right to employment or right to go to a specific school. If I got caught on tape saying such things, I would totally expect there to be repercussions at my job, especially if things said were while performing my job, just as these kids were part of the frat that is part of the school they are being thrown out of. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:54 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Cat Fud 3:52 PM EDT There was no prior censorship, and enrollment in a university is a privilege, not a constitutional right. These jerks couldn't be arrested for singing that while they marched down the sidewalk. But they can sure as hell be bounced from OU. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:55 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena OldRafe 3:17 PM EDT The first amendment applies to government: Congress shall make no law.... I don't understand the automatic extension of this to a university, public or otherwise. Not everyone can be a student at the universtiy. You need academic credtis to enter, you have to pass courses, you have to obey university rules, such as not giving test answers to other people And if you don't do those things the university has the right to expel you. In expelling those frat boys the university is not limiting their speech or putting them in jail for speaking. It is just saying that that kind of conduct does not belong in the university. Seems to ome that's the institution's right, just as it is my right to ask a visitor to leave my home if he makes comments that offend me. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:02 PM Author: plum comical rehab psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466877) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:14 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain how in the flying fuck of fucks did all of these morons find volokh's page? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467000) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena it's part of the washington post now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467058) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:23 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467090) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca u brought this on urself, eugene (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467099) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:27 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain and that answers that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467124) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:47 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467295) |
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Date: November 11th, 2022 4:36 AM Author: curious school puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#45476049) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:49 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467317) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 12:50 PM Author: swashbuckling henna church building Every person can't become a lawyer because they haven't been to law school to learn the nuances of the law?
OK buddy. lJL @ thinking you're something special because you wasted three years and $200K on a law degree. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 5:27 PM Author: jade toilet seat both "public universities are part of the govt" and the meaning of the 1st amd are both things taught many times befor eyou're 18 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27484371) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena DeMarcus Ibdul Jackson 3:10 PM EDT I'm sure that the lawyers for the University would differ significantly in their view of the applicable law in this case. Did the author of this essay bother to contact them for their position on the matter? Or is this just a one sided speculative take on the University's handling of this case without full information on the case? |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:00 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye *Exhibit 12,323 in 2018 FCC ruling applying Fairness Doctrine to Internet communications* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466856) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:57 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Patternity tester 3:00 PM EDT It's nice how so many people come out with great concern for the free speech rights of bigoted, overprivileged college kids. The yawns in response to the DOJ report documenting targeted citation bias toward poor and African-American residents in Ferguson, Missouri were deafening.
It is not enough to pick and choose which people you want to defend. There is a moral imperative to prioritize among the many injustices those who are treated the most unfairly and are harmed the greatest. By that standard, I'll sadly never get around in my lifetime to defending the free speech rights of the racist frat boys. Not that free speech rights should not extend to everyone ... but greater injustices need to be dealt with first. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:58 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel OU students, oh what privilege! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466837) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:01 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye "Greater injustices need to be dealt with first," he intoned, as ISIS threw another gayd00d from a tenth-story window. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466870) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain It's nice how so many people come out with great concern for the free speech rights of bigoted, overprivileged college kids because they don't deserve free speech! |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:58 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena TS1231 2:43 PM EDT You could certainly argue that they're yelling Fire in a crowded theater. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:59 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel One could certainly argue that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466843) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain I know I would (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467020) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:40 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch On what a certain scholar! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467246) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:51 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467322) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 9:59 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena trytruth 2:39 PM EDT People. Freedom to speak on/sing your hatred, write on your willful ignorance is still in tact. But that does NOT negate the CONSEQUENCES that may result when the intent of your choices harm or hurt others. To believe otherwise takes a great deal of arrogance and belief in privilege. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: Diverse Insanely Creepy Casino Organic Girlfriend I love the ones that try to extol freedom of speech while still endorsing state action against people on the basis of their speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466917) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:18 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain you have the FREEDOM to say whatever the fuck you want but of course you aren't free from getting PUNISHED for exercising that freedom when you are saying something like this |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:29 PM Author: anal locus this one can't be real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467693) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:44 PM Author: Fear-inspiring supple therapy gunner I've heard this over and over again in different forms. Like what the 1A does is prevent the gov't from putting some kind of chastity belt over your larynx. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471976) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:48 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471993) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:15 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472182) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:20 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea The funny thing is it's true (for the most part) if you're not talking about a state actor. Usually you hear the converse, where people think the First Amendment is violated with private actors punish them for speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472206) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:04 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye ABA sees this thread, starts wondering how it can enroll all of these commenters in law schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466895) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
TWIST: Most of them are already unemployed TTT law school graduates, which is why they are simultaneously arrogant enough to willingly put their idiocy on public display and bored enough to actually do it. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: plum comical rehab psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467120) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:39 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467230) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:04 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye ITT: Taylor Swift doing God's work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466901) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466914) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: Pontificating wine dilemma main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466918) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466931) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466953) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:41 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467249) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:17 PM Author: Carmine potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689522) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:05 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Roger Wilco 2:39 PM EDT I find it mind numbing that there is all this talk about racist white fraternities who don't let black people in, while they completely ignore that most black fraternities refuse to let whites in. These fraternities exist on every campus across this country and we've been just fine so far. Obviously these complainers haven't figured out that to be free you must have choices in life, and sometimes people may choose to be among their own kind whether you like it or not. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (Boomer uncle forwarding you petition for a "White History Month" and spuriously-sourced World Net Daily links) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466954) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain guy whose actual name is not roger wilco |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Matt Story 2:39 PM EDT This piece is built on the premise that public universities have no authority to punish students for anything that is not expressly forbidden by the U.S. Constitution. And that premise is ridiculous -- laughable, even. This writer's understanding of Constitutional law is on par with that of the 12-year-olds I used to work with who thought that free speech meant I couldn't punish them for calling their classmates names. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Chris_Virginia 3:08 PM EDT I think the author's understanding of Constitutional law is A LOT greater than you think. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:06 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Matt Story 5:38 PM EDT This piece illustrates literally the exact same level of understanding of Constitutional law as the aforementioned 12-year-olds. Maybe he's a really smart guy and this piece is just a rare lapse in his judgement, but he's really, really, really wrong this time. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467065) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena TwelveInchPianist 3:15 PM EDT Yeah, and the fact that they let this writer teach the first amendment in law school is probably why so many lawyers and judges don't understand the constitution as well as you. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:07 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Matt Story 5:43 PM EDT I dare you to find me even one judge who says that the Constitution prevents public universities from enforcing rules against hate speech. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: Lime Well-lubricated Parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466942) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca hahahahaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466965) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:46 PM Author: Fear-inspiring supple therapy gunner I don't think he wants a case cite. I think he wants an actual CoA judge to be delivered to him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471982) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:17 PM Author: Carmine potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689525) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:14 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel This writer's understanding of Constitutional law is on par with that of the 12-year-olds I used to work with who thought that "free speech" meant I couldn't punish them for calling their classmates names. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466995) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:08 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (Her avatar features the words NOT ON OUR CAMPUS)
Becky Ford 2:25 PM EDT He can expel them if they have violated the Student Code of Conduct. I'm sure their actions have met the minimum standard for expulsion. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:09 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena heirloomtomato 2:16 PM EDT You think he's not allowed to do it? He just did. The little bigots can contest their expulsion with the University's Equal Opportunity Officer. Given that they just cost the college $$ since football players are now shunning UO, I eagerly invited them to contest it. It's time for the rude awakening to these cretins: black football players are more valuable to the university than little white racist boys and that is that. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena WilliamL2 2:24 PM EDT Uh, public officials frequently do things that, in retrospect, were unlawful to do. That's what the writer is pretty obviously saying, not that he is literally unable to do it. And I don't think there's a cost the athletic department recruits and money exception to the first amendment. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena heirloomtomato 2:35 PM EDT [Edited] That's fine and dandy. They can *try* to get back into a school that hates them with a passion and the school can sue them for slandering the school's image. I imagine they won't be able to afford college after that. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:11 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Kirkland's true libertarian 2:38 PM EDT Slandering the school's image? Slander requires a false statement about the school (among other things). |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena heirloomtomato 5:30 PM EDT my bad. defamation. the bigot's actions have cost them football players. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca *doubles the fuck down on 20, looks the dealer dead in the eye and snarls "hit me"* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467027) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:19 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467041) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467074) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467113) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:39 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel This one is still the best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467229) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:01 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch omg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467407) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 1:46 AM Author: Fragrant space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468377) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 5:13 PM Author: Exhilarant messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471541) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 12:51 PM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27482743) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:10 PM Author: jade toilet seat to be fair, who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who argues with him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483257) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:30 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca anyone who engages with shrewmo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483413) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:18 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel 18000000000000000000000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467032) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:23 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain "black football players are more valuable to the university than little white racist boys" ah, the irony |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:24 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca oh god lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467103) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:35 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467198) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:11 PM Author: Lime Well-lubricated Parlor Someone please commence pwning souls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27466971) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:12 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Jim Samuel 2:08 PM EDT Where in the Constitution does it say that we have a right to free speech without consequence?
I've always understood that the First Amendment says that the government may not prevent up from expressing opinion. I have never seen anything in the Constitution that says we may not be held accountable for our speech, or pay a price for what we say. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:14 PM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease Shit like this:
" I have never seen anything in the Constitution..."
when he knows damn well he's never read the Constitution jfc |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: Diverse Insanely Creepy Casino Organic Girlfriend lollll (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467005) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:13 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena David M. Higgins 2:04 PM EDT Forget about 'Racist Speech' these Frat Boys should be JAILED for Incitement to MURDER by publicly advocating LYNCHING N**gers |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:19 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca could only have been better if he hadn't censored himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467040) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel I think this one is flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467050) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye If his name were "Nate" and not "David" there'd be no question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467082) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:23 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467093) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 11:34 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467720) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Carmine potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689543) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:15 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena theplaintruth1 2:01 PM EDT the GOP and the Tea Party have been doing everything they can to promote racism in the United States since President Obama was elected. You simply have to google Tea Party racism, or GOP racism and click images to see their terror troops in action. Shame on the GOP and tea party for promoting racism in this great nation. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain obviously the gop and tea party should be expelled from ou too |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:27 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467127) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:16 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena T-Prop 1:50 PM EDT Nice article there, Eugene. Guess What?
They're expelled.
L.O.L. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Holy shit, it's Idris Esquire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467026) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467063) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena JASinAZ 1:26 PM EDT Since govt is not punishing the speech as sedition there is no constitutional issue involve, though this isn't going to stop those who take unsupported broad views of it that even ignore the words Congress shall make no law.... |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (Beginning of highest-graded Con Law final exam answer at Thomas Cooley this year) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467052) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:21 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Why did you edit your 180 post? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467076) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:26 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye Shit, thought I was typing in a different window when i did that, hold on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467116) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:30 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain that is a good post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467163) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:31 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467174) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:46 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch LOL why does anyone even bother writing satire in the world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467293) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:27 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca ive never gotten such a confused mix of enjoyment, horror, and apathy out of a thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467129) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:30 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467165) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:28 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Rossputin 12:44 PM EDT [Edited] Wrong Again. Another constitutional scholar bites the dust. http://www.koco.com/news/ou-investigates-video-reportedly-showing-fraternity-singing-racist-chant/31686542 |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:31 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel I certain Benzoeque quality to this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467175) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:34 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye The smug, conclusory statement coupled with a news link is very Benzo, I agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467193) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:36 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca *smug, incorrect conclusory statement coupled with a newslink that's tangentially relevant to the overall topic but not the point being made (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467207) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:40 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467241) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye "It happened, so clearly it's legal!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467180) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca holy fuck you cannot be serious, i think this is my favorite one yet
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:49 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch wow these first amendment scholars are falling like dominoes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467314) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:28 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel All time top 100 thread. It is great to see everybody come together to laugh at retards.
Somebody should send this link to Eugene, so he doesn't kill himself in despair for the human race. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:33 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain the op has done a good job of selecting posts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467187) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:35 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca tbf winks slyly, "oh, i have a feeling he's seen the thread" as the scene fades to black (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467197) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:36 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467209) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:38 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel *camera pans to beefy Indianboi bareback sex* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467222) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 8:24 AM Author: learning disabled translucent sneaky criminal mad cow disease this poast has given me hoap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468822) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:21 PM Author: Carmine potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689551) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:56 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467358) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:29 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena jpferg1 12:24 PM EDT When did codes of conduct become irrelevant? Publish their names and photos. Make a mandatory course for inter-racial dialogue, include the history of the KKK and Jim Crow lynchings in Freshman History classes. And don't charter any organization that refuses anyone based on race. None of this would be injurious to their constitutional rights. It would, in fact, be a part of an educational mission. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:09 AM Author: Thirsty location factory reset button Its not "indoctrination" or "brainwashing" when we do it! (shitlib) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469161) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Kevin Lawrence 12:19 PM EDT [Edited] Post the frat members' names online and let society deal with these True Gentlemen--and the families that raised them--accordingly. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:37 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye *Is appalled at racist chant that references lynching* *Suggests lynching of innocent third parties in response* |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:41 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467247) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:41 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca "never a-GAIN never a-GAIN never a-GAIN" |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:43 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467267) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:47 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467297) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:32 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Germantowner 12:11 PM EDT I think they can and should be expelled. What the government can't do is silence them. But the 1st Amendment does not mean there are no consequences for all speech. |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 7:12 PM Author: big dun rigor knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27836062) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:33 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena H_was_Clark 12:39 PM EDT Always amusing to see the lengths some commenters will go to on this blog to defend racist (and saying this is racist is pulling it mildly - it hearkens back to one of the uglier chapters in American history) bilge.
On another note, at least this event answers the question about where so many in the GOP were on the day of the Selma commemorations. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:35 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel *presses enter*
*removes "typist" buttplug* |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:37 PM Author: indigo ticket booth round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467217) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:43 PM Author: Shimmering cumskin brunch lol wait how is saying this is racist "putting it mildly"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467265) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:48 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca well he couldve said it was not only racist but also *literally genocide* and lawd knows he'd be well within his rights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467310) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:56 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467362) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:36 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena TheTruthteller 9:18 PM EDT We need a new amendment to the Constitution which prohibits hate speech then. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:39 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca *shitlibs telling commenters "good, good, let the tolerance flow through you!" and cackling as lightning bolts shoot from their fingertips* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467226) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 3:07 AM Author: galvanic canary weed whacker spot REMINDER:
99% of contemporary liberals agree with this |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:38 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena youngmindoldbody 8:32 PM EDT [Edited] Should the university have kept quiet and this free speech escalate into something more serious or criminal, the university and its officers would find themselves as defendants in a civil or criminal lawsuit. OU did the right thing to protect itself...the same thing any private institution or business would do in similar circumstances. |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:43 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (guy who definitely understand frats) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27467266) |
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Date: March 10th, 2015 10:45 PM Author: Mustard slimy sandwich pit "same thing as any private institution or business would do in this situation.."
/facepalm |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 3:08 AM Author: galvanic canary weed whacker spot Taylor Swift and tbf went off ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468576) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:22 AM Author: Vivacious Rebellious Newt wow a bit late to the party here but JFC wholly shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27468989) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:27 AM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency Gas all boomers, round up all millennials in a pen and tell them to stay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469003) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 11:25 AM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469449) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:38 AM Author: Zippy halford good word xo - just as I was logging on this morning I was thinking, why do I spend my time on xo, and then I came across this thread
*wipes tear* |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 9:57 AM Author: Tan Histrionic Plaza Sex Offender A 180 to Volokh, WaPo, Taylor Swift, and XO for coming together to let retards respond to a Constitutional Scholar then get roasted on a completely different forum.
The internet is weird.
I'm half surprised each "bad post" isn't linked to a facebook account here so I can see who is posting all this retarded crap. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:06 AM Author: Excitant goyim theater As a liberal who is not retarded, I will say that the OU president knew 100% that what he was doing wasn't constitutional but he did it anyway, either because he thought that he wouldn't get sued, or because he was willing to lose to get good publicity for the school.
That being said, this thread is pretty funny. Always amusing to see what the geniuses of internet commentary have to say about constitutional law. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 1:04 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks Shouldn't the academy, a Govt one at that, value the ideal of free speech and constitutional rights more than mob rule public relations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469875) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 11:25 AM Author: flatulent glassy national security agency XO: Still smarter than the average MSM comments section. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469451) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:00 PM Author: lemon judgmental jewess ape The University has legitimate mission to fashion and execute an educational mission; which, includes the decision to choose and enforce an inclusive cultural environment as between the members of its graduate and undergraduate student bodies; its faculty and staffs. In the balancing test as between the possible conflicting objectives of the desire of certain members of those student bodies to promote an exclusive cultural environment, by their speech or their actions; the University may properly sanction them; up to, and including their removal from the University community.
The basis for this simply that the University is an organized sub-set of the larger society which has a legitimate programmatic interest in the fashioning and executing its vision of its purpose, its reason for being. It is a mission specific/mission focused enterprise. And it gets to decide how it shall organize itself and execute its mission(s). And ultimately it is to be granted great deference in the choices that it makes; and, its assertions of legitimate linkages or nexuses between its self-defined mission(s) and the cultural architecture it chooses to implement and operate.
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:01 PM Author: Vivacious Rebellious Newt lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469583) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:31 PM Author: razzle hot native Oh what a strict scrutiny balancing test scholar! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469704) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 3:53 PM Author: Diverse Insanely Creepy Casino Organic Girlfriend This writing is eerily doobsian... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27470887) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:56 PM Author: hairraiser grizzly dragon Sagae 3/10/2015 5:10 PM EDT I'd actually like to see male students expelled for hurling catcalls at women. That goes on a lot and is truly threatening and scary. Most cat calls are threats of rape ("I'd like to . . . ") |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:58 PM Author: Fishy Stirring Piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469836) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 12:58 PM Author: Vivacious Rebellious Newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469837) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 1:05 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca SUMMON: johnsmeyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469876) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 1:05 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks Lol nice flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27469883) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 5:19 PM Author: Concupiscible chartreuse goal in life As you read that idiocy, remember that those are the sorts of shitty arguments that jurors accept on a regular basis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471576) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 5:20 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Civil juries are fraudpies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471579) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 5:53 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain which is why being a successful trial attorney doesn't require a t14 pedigree at all |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:05 PM Author: Crystalline Kitchen Gaping Didn't our own Doobs, C.J., rule in a somewhat similar case, i.e., one that centered on freedom of speech in a public school and a code of conduct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27471842) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:52 PM Author: razzle hot native Elie Mystttal has to chime in insisting that the stupid racist song sung for fun on a bus full of white people was an actual threat which was both intended to be a threat and perceived by the targets to be a threat.
http://www.atlredline.com/and-now-for-the-inevitable-white-people-defense-of-sae-1690821859 |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 6:56 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel It is kind of sad that the law always forces libs to contort into unhuman positions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472046) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:08 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena Elie Mystal Today 4:50pm The people defending SAE are not defense attorneys. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:10 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Elie Mystal, never not setting affirmative action back 70 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472152) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:12 PM Author: Fear-inspiring supple therapy gunner I will let you expel the kids if we get to arrest everyone involved in rap songs that threaten violence against cops. ITS HAPPENED BEFORE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472167) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:18 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472195) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:29 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain holy fuck "Now, I get how a white listener wouldn't take the threat as a true threat....But that's not really an objective reading of the situation, at least if we dispense with the notion that the white perspective is the only objective one....In fact, I'm getting pretty sick of white people telling me how I'm supposed to perceive threats from white people....The threat of being beat up or worse by a mob of angry white people is REAL.....Yes, the lynching song was a "true threat." The fact that I have to argue about it makes it all the more terrifying.
prior to this, i thought elie mystal was a white feminist attorney. I've heard the name, but don't remember anything stupid associated with him. but this is a black guy? who graduated from Harvard? who has the fucking nerve to argue this bullshit? what a fucking moron. arguing that this song is a "true threat" is as offensive as the song itself, just in different ways. mystal should be ashamed.
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:41 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena anyone who actually believes that 19-year-old twink was capable of tying a noose, let alone using it to lynch a black dude, is mentally ill and needs treatment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472324) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:50 PM Author: Fear-inspiring supple therapy gunner IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27472380) |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 7:52 PM Author: Passionate Toaster Whorehouse Those frat boys were about as intimidating as Michael Bolton rolling up the window in Office Space.
Imagine if a black OU football player walked up onto the bus while the SAE's were singing that song --- the sound of crickets chirping and a distant crow cawing. |
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Date: March 11th, 2015 10:48 PM Author: Lilac set SJWs on my feed calling this "hate speech" that "isn't protected" by 1st Am. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27473701) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 6:06 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena tbf, some lawyers are doing the same thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27475067) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:27 AM Author: Lilac set Hate speech incites violence and is still usually protected, right? I mean, look at the way SCOTUS ruled on Snyder -- the Westboro case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27475278) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 7:02 AM Author: aggressive tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27475091) |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:36 AM Author: swashbuckling henna church building LJL @ a bunch of xo aspies feeling superior to "regular" people because you happen to be lawyers.
You idiots aren't smarter than anyone else, you just happen to understand the nuances of the law because you're lawyers.
This is a board on haji h several people SERIOUSLY debated the question of where fat goes where one loses weight and several people argued against the conservation of mass or had to have it explained to them. You don't display a high level of understanding of ANYTHING not related to the law. Can you imagine what people from a science or medicine would think if they read this thread? They would be calling *you* the 100 IQ idiots.
Laughing at a bunch of laypeople for not "getting" the one thing in your life you understand to a high degree because you've spent years studying it is just douchey and explains why there are so many "I'm 27 and have no friends - how can I change this?" threads |
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Date: March 12th, 2015 9:50 AM Author: Diverse Insanely Creepy Casino Organic Girlfriend Volokh's post spelled out the relevant legal nuances so just about any layperson could understand them and decide for themselves whether a public university can expel students for private racist speech without violating the First Amendment. Unlike the fat thread, there was a clear explanation from a well-regarded expert on the subject for anyone to read before opining.
The fact that so many people reject that analysis and are so desperate to find exceptions that justify punishing the students is what's frightening. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:10 PM Author: razzle hot native Right, people do not have a vested interest (or should not) in arguing about where fat goes.
I know a little science and I assume fat is metabolized and by products are pissed out or released from breathing. But if I am wrong and someone tells me differently then I am happy to learn the truth.
Lawyers SHOULD develop a way or thinking where you can see issues outside of your own perspective and prejudices. Without worrying about specific knowledge most non lawyer idiots and some lawyer idiots are incapable of using their brains this way. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:43 PM Author: Aromatic tank I am going to assume your premise is correct that it violates the Constitution and then say WHO GIVES A FUCK.
OK. He violated the Constitution. What is the penalty? Is he going to First Amendment jail?
No. The answer, of course, is that the students who believe their Constitutional rights were violated can sue. Except, guess what. They fucking won't.
The President did the prudent thing. Sometimes you need to violate the Constitution. The Civil Rights movement did it. The Anti-War movement did it. The suffragettes did it. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:46 PM Author: orchid beady-eyed senate That's a pretty shitty argument when the topic is whether or not something violated the constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483095) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:47 PM Author: Aromatic tank The people defending the Constitution approach are arguing that the PRESIDENT CAN'T DO THIS OR THAT BECAUSE of the CONSTITUTION. That my friend is the shitty argument. He obviously can and did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483104) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:50 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain not much for brains, eh? conflating being able to do something with being ABLE to do something? really not clever |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:52 PM Author: Aromatic tank Rosa Parks wasn't constitutionally permitted to sit in the front of the bus, yet she did reptile.
You have a fucking point in here?
What is your argument? That he violated the Constitution or that he can't/shouldn't violate the Constitution. Because if it is the latter, reality tells us you are fucking WRONG.
In fact, let's tease this out. 2 workers work in the DOJ. 1 of the worker calls the other worker the n word. Now, can the DOJ fire that worker? |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:56 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain the seahawks were not constitutionally permitted to win the super bowl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483174) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:58 PM Author: Aromatic tank The fuck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483186) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:26 PM Author: Stimulating dysfunction hall use too much flame and you'll burn it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483389) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:53 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
Women's Sufferage Movement: expanded civil liberties for Americans.
Civil Rights Movement: expanded civil liberties for Americans.
Anti-War Movement: expanded civil liberties for Americans.
Pushing for a broad "hate speech" carve-out to 1A protection: ...seriosly diminishes civil liberties for Americans.
Go fuck yourself in the face. Seriously. I mean that from the bottom of my heart, because idiots like you are a huge part of the problem. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:55 PM Author: Aromatic tank So, to be clear, you are FOR Constitution violations when you agree with them but AGIN them when you don't? Check. Got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483161) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:11 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
Since you asked me to be clear, your idiocy goes far deeper than I bothered to address in my prior post. But since you asked...
The Women's Sufferage Movement didn't "violate" the constitution for any number of reasons--including that (1) the women who pushed for an Amendment giving them the vote didn't take unconstitutional actions (in fact, marching and protesting for non-violent political purposes is expressly constitutionally *protected* activity, last time I checked), and (2) even if they had taken actions that would have violated the constitution had they been state actors (they didn't), *they still weren't state actors*. You seem dumb, so I'll stop here to remind you that the Constitution only imposes restrictions on state actors, not on private citizens. I know that's a difficult concept but try to remember that point.
The same analysis applies to the Civil Rights Movement. See if you can think really, really hard and figure out why. (Hint: even if the Civil Rights protestors were state actors--and again, they were not--violating state laws mandating segregation =! violating federal constitutional provisions. Look up "federalism" while you're at it.)
And likewise for the Anti-War Movement.
So again, to be clear, that's why you're a fucking idiot from a purely legal perspective: none of the movements that you attempted to draw analogies to actually involved "Constitution [sic] violations" in the first place, for the numerous independent reasons listed above.
But you're also a fucking idiot from a normative perspective, because even if we assumed purely for the sake of argument that those three movements did involve "Constitution [sic] violations," the operative principle that I have expressed for why they would still not be analogous to the push for a broad hate-speech carveout isn't just because "well I like those and I don't like this." The distinction is that the end results of those movements extended legal rights that already existed for at least part of the U.S. population prior to those movements--the freedom to vote in federal elections, the freedom to live under a government that does not discriminate against you on the basis of your ethnicity, and the freedom not to be conscripted into military service against your will--to new groups that have not previously enjoy those freedoms. In other words, the purpose of those movements was to extend pre-existing freedoms so that more people would enjoy more freedom from government restrictions.
By contrast, the push to ban broad "hate speech" demonstrably and inarguably *limits* the freedom of expression that all Americans have previously enjoyed, and gives the government *more* power to place restrictions on the citizenry under threat of punishment by the power of the state.
That's a principled distinction based on a clearly-defined legal principle, and responding to that argument by pretending that I just happen to like those three movements and I just happen not to like this one because that's how I "feel" (with the implication that I'm an inconsistent kneejerk hypocrite) is disingenuous at best and straight up idiotic at worst.
And now that I've explained all of the ways in which you're a fucking idiot, please resume fucking yourself in the face. |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:54 AM Author: Purple church cant believe that this didnt get even one bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#34914873) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:55 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena holy shit, I missed this the first time around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#34914880) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:16 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea What exactly are these constitutional violations you're talking about? Did the suffragettes impose cruel and unusual punishment in violation of the 8th Amendment and I just never heard about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483305) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:17 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
He has no fucking idea what he's talking about. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 5:44 PM Author: Chestnut Marvelous Headpube Den OH WHAT A CONSTITUTION VIOLATION (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27484488) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:45 PM Author: orchid beady-eyed senate It's been made very clear in this thread, that what people are laughing at is the certainty with which people disagree w/ Volokh. If we had some science thread where an expert in a field said "fat does this..." and all of a sudden there were 100 posts saying, "jesus listen to this stupid idiot we all know that fat disappears through <insert wrong statement>." It would be comparable.
Ignorance of a topic that requires some actual knowledge isn't a problem. It's insisting that you know better than someone that isn't ignorant on the topic, while being ignorant, that is what these shitlibs are doing and rightfully being mocked for. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:46 PM Author: Aromatic tank Except that many of you retards miss the fucking point. It doesn't matter if he violated the Constitution. It is irrelevant to the reality of the situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483097) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:53 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain this schtick is annoying because it's similar to the idiots being mocked. violating the constitution as a state actor puts one at risk in many ways. that you can't figure that out is your problem. the sae boys have recourse. don't pretend they don't. don't pretend that pragmatism is all that matters and it will carry the day. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:57 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
CR. "Who gives a fuck if some cops go around beating up citizens and stealing their money during bogus 'traffic stops,' the reality is that we need cops and at the end of the day people will continue to support them because we need them to protect us from criminals, so big whoop if some of them 'violate' the Constitution sometimes, no one is going to do shit about it."
OH, WHAT SCHOLARSHIP! |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:59 PM Author: Aromatic tank LOL at comparing police abuse to a president expelling kids who sing nigger songs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483195) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:21 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea LOLSOHARD and not seeing the validity of the comparison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483336) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:23 PM Author: Opaque Provocative Library Coffee Pot Real talk: Is there anything dumber than refuting an on-point reductio ad absurdum argument by declaring that it isn't comparing the same things, when that's the whole point of the rhetorical device? You use the same underlying principle but extrapolate it to a different scenario to show how absurd the underlying principle is.
To show that his example is bad you have to show that it uses a different underlying principle than yours. Maybe you can, maybe you can't, but as of now you sound like a fat DMV clerk. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:23 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
You mean LOL at comparing one clear constitutional violation that you personally happen to think is serious with another clear constitutional violation that you personally happen to think is not serious? Yeah what was I thinking, I didn't even stop to ask you which constitutional violations we should *actually* care about. Sorry brother I'll try to remember to do that in the future before posting in threads like this. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:28 PM Author: Aromatic tank Right bro. Speeding is a violation of the law and so is murder. So, random! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483399) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:30 PM Author: Rough-skinned Dull Hairy Legs Milk To be fair,
There's no way you're not flame, but I appreciate your flaming because it gives me a chance to vent a little bit about this shit. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:31 PM Author: orchid beady-eyed senate LOL at comparing kids singing a song to cops doing their job to keep us safe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483420) |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 7:15 PM Author: Concupiscible chartreuse goal in life This is coming late, but you're a fucking idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27836087) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:57 PM Author: Aromatic tank I agree they have recourse. However, they won't avail themselves of it because they are now pariahs and don't want to bring any further media attention to themselves.
The President knew this and acted appropriately. It is no different than deciding to speed on the way to work. You know its a violation of the law, but you accept what little consequences that may come your way. |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:59 PM Author: Olive Razzle-dazzle Stain well, we might be on to something you don't understand what recourse means nice edit. glad you figured out recourse and consequences aren't the same thing |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:20 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea How is that relevant to the commenters adamantly proclaiming that there is no constitutional violation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483331) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:19 PM Author: Mind-boggling Hell Marketing Idea titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483324) |
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Date: March 16th, 2015 1:39 AM Author: swashbuckling henna church building Uh it's not the same because much of law is open to interpretation. The question of where fat goes isn't, so the expert' sword should just be accepted as fact in that instance. There's disagreement even within the legal community about this SAE. Shit, so it's easy to understand why people don't automatically defer to Volokh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27498102) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 1:59 PM Author: Vivacious Rebellious Newt lol what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483197) |
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Date: March 13th, 2015 2:50 PM Author: aggressive tanning salon (kristy.baker) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27483530) |
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Date: April 4th, 2015 9:01 PM Author: mildly autistic magenta giraffe resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27621491) |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 7:02 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27835994) |
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Date: May 6th, 2015 7:03 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel Still my fav thread of the year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27835998) |
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Date: May 17th, 2015 7:26 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27910731) |
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Date: May 17th, 2015 7:31 PM Author: Electric Impressive Macaca this thread is xo at its best (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#27910757) |
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Date: February 14th, 2016 3:25 PM Author: Cracking crotch Bump for the memory of Scalia, and the shitlibs who are suddenly constitutional MFEs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#29828895) |
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Date: June 9th, 2016 1:31 PM Author: Cracking crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#30661032) |
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Date: June 9th, 2016 1:34 PM Author: Navy fat ankles incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#30661057) |
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Date: June 9th, 2016 1:36 PM Author: sepia trip twinkling uncleanness wagecucks ah, back before this board hadn't lost its mind. now the bros at volokh are considered "cucks" by the stormfront (i mean XO) crowd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#30661063) |
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Date: August 12th, 2016 11:30 AM Author: Racy Bronze Azn one of the few things the world has made right in the past year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31167725) |
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Date: August 12th, 2016 11:31 AM Author: Useless Slippery Abode Nah, but you are definitely in the running for the worst poster here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31167733) |
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Date: June 15th, 2016 4:59 PM Author: Cracking crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#30711980) |
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Date: August 12th, 2016 11:28 AM Author: Mischievous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31167710) |
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Date: September 5th, 2016 10:33 PM Author: Mischievous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31343763) |
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Date: September 5th, 2016 10:39 PM Author: boyish yellow jap what was in op (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31343808) |
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Date: September 5th, 2016 10:40 PM Author: curious school puppy why did op delete all the comments he pulled from the site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31343820) |
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Date: September 10th, 2016 2:08 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena because I run a poast blanking script every few weeks. people like benzo and dvp have stalked me and have literally come after my family. my blanking script wipes every post I've ever made.
tomorrow, I am going to revive all of these posts and make sure that this thread is ignored by my blanker. |
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Date: September 10th, 2016 8:19 AM Author: Mischievous heaven 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31373568) |
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Date: November 9th, 2016 3:56 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena restored & protected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31852136) |
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Date: September 11th, 2016 11:02 PM Author: Mischievous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31386935) |
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Date: September 24th, 2016 6:11 PM Author: curious school puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31482494) |
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Date: September 28th, 2016 6:42 PM Author: Appetizing voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31515466) |
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Date: November 10th, 2016 7:06 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31867524) |
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Date: November 10th, 2016 5:01 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#31873015) |
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Date: December 11th, 2016 7:03 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#32114002) |
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Date: January 31st, 2017 12:35 PM Author: Mischievous heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#32509192) |
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Date: March 15th, 2017 2:31 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#32833324) |
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Date: March 15th, 2017 8:24 AM Author: Pink thriller state degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#32833884) |
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Date: April 20th, 2017 2:35 PM Author: curious school puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33119764) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:04 PM Author: Appetizing voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33813723) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:19 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part too lazy to read through. why is this thread notable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33813816) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: 180 gas station hominid If you can't get it by reading the op, you're too dumb to get it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33813844) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Sooty stage party of the first part rofl. i never bothered to read the op. hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33813847) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2017 3:08 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33908443) |
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Date: August 7th, 2017 9:14 PM Author: Floppy public bath https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGq1X6wUAAAM3Kv?format=jpg&name=large (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33938650) |
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Date: August 7th, 2017 9:44 PM Author: Floppy public bath https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#33938823) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 12:45 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#34914824) |
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Date: December 21st, 2017 10:30 PM Author: Appetizing voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#34980471) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 6:25 AM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#35822359) |
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Date: October 26th, 2019 9:06 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39031611) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:04 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689434) |
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Date: March 3rd, 2020 4:16 PM Author: curious school puppy Freedom of Speech, but not Freedom from the Code of Conduct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#39689518) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:52 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#45140378) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:57 PM Author: big dun rigor knife Did Volokh's career ever recover from the commenters noting he overlooked the University Code of Conduct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#45140417) |
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Date: November 10th, 2022 10:16 PM Author: bateful ivory lay striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2827065&forum_id=2#45474851) |