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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:58 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell I figure we live in a world obsessed with tiers and classes, so I'm going to see how this works with mods. If it's a disaster, I'll undo it, it's just an experiment in checks and balances.
Taking into consideration recommendations made earlier today, I will be granting a few people mod access on a trial basis. Some mods will have the ability to delete posts and threads, and other "unmods" will have the ability to restore posts and threads if they feel they were unnecessarily deleted. I will be logging all these actions and they will be displayed in the following fashion:
Identities of mods will be visible to unmods, albeit with aliases, and identities of unmods will be visible to the public, albeit with aliases. There will be a page that displays all mod actions, in a better format than the garbage board. If there is abuse, I think it won't be hard for people to identify the problem. Probably overly complicated, but it's a funny scheme. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:02 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen Gold level user Bronze level user
recognizable identity
weird alphanumeric schtick
pumo |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:53 AM Author: Sick chapel moar like
first tier mod
second tier mod
third tier toilet poaster |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:57 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood DBG how am i gonna make a thread about a high school aged girl and not see u poast in it. that one was all for u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600664) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:34 AM Author: Sick chapel link???? i missed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600793) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:45 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844583&mc=107&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600852) |
Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:00 AM Author: Deranged Location Giraffe Not sure if serious... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600371) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:00 AM Author: Beady-eyed sapphire electric furnace is there a way to prevent mods from giving access to their account to other poasters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600374) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:03 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell That problem completely compromised the mod system before. I don't know if there is a perfect solution to it, other than some kind of IP restriction tactic, and documenting mod actions clearly and openly. If you have any ideas let me know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600399) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:04 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen can you build in expiration dates? maybe have gold status last three months before it has to be renewed by you... might decrease the severity of a rogue mod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600409) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:05 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell Explain this idea in more detail for me please. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600414) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:10 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen Sure: it's a bit like a deadman switch on a train. If it's feasible to put a time limit on mod powers, you could force people email you after 90 days or so to retain their mod privileges. Without your permission the account would revert back to an ordinary one.
The idea would be that if they've given the account to someone else, without an email from them confirming that they want to keep it going, their accounts would eventually expire, limiting the amount of mischief a rogue mod could do.
Cons: a little more administrative work on your end |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:14 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell It's not a bad idea at all. I get the gist of it. Could be automated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600463) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:06 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Only giving mod to long-time accounts of known posters is a good solution. Of the names mentioned, Earl, flyfisher, and gogol ganguly are great examples of accounts that have never changed hands and pretty much could not conceivably do so, as far as I know. Same with this account (but not my other ones). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600422) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:06 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell Yes, you are right about that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600432) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:08 AM Author: Deranged Location Giraffe There will always be a chance of accounts changing hands. Keeping the total number of mods low + transparency is the best solution.
1-2 day mods, 1-2 night mods, and not a single more. 1-1 prob best. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:10 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Yes, but you want to minimize the chance by using posters like this.
I agree with the critiques of you as a mod. They arguably also apply to me; I think posters who have proven to be stable (rather than who have been demonstrably shticky or unstable) are best. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:12 AM Author: Deranged Location Giraffe I have been stably WGWAG from the beginning, awwww yeah!
Being able to see who exactly the fucking mods are will keep them in check. Shitmods, pepper thy anuses. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:09 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood what about what earl said about being "too nice" though? earl is great because he's kind of a dick. he's not gonna cut favors for anyone -- his principles matter too much. what if a congenial female poaster who you really got along with came to you and asked to delete a particularly embarrassing pwning? would u do her that solid? |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:23 AM Author: Deranged Location Giraffe i am not interested in being a mod so my answer to this question is irrelevant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600753) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:26 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood oh my b. but it was a general thought anyway. a lot of upstanding, well-regarded poasters would relent in that situation. you need people who are stubbornly principled and don't mix xo with IRL. earl is an exception here because he is a lovable dick who doesn't let his IRL relationships colour his xo actions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600765) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:34 AM Author: irradiated market In that situation the answer is to demand dirty pics that will be shared with the board. Then, everyone wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601888) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:02 AM Author: primrose excitant circlehead menage Awesome. Checks and balances is good and will alleviate the possibility of bias from a single mod acting in their own interest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600394) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:04 AM Author: appetizing glassy gas station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600410) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:49 AM Author: Wonderful jade karate I am glad you're still here - I read a poast the other day that said you retired, and it made me sad, because you're one of the more chill poasters here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600630) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:09 PM Author: Yapping generalized bond rehab To be fair,
He does have to overcome a lot of inertia in order to get moving. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:19 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen Another strategy would be to ask potential Mods to give you identifying details--that will give them a bit more accountability and have a chilling effect on account trading and mischief (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600497) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:21 AM Author: Deranged Location Giraffe this will not deter those with nothing to lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600507) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:22 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600510) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:28 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal cr. Hard to see this deterring Benzo, PN, etc. Or some outed female megaposter on a bad day, for that matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600554) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:29 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen Maybe keep it to 30+ posters with real jobs! Credit check! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600559) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:19 AM Author: Black overrated puppy Employed old poster checking in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600735) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:24 AM Author: Navy Floppy Liquid Oxygen The other direction to go is to find the most obnoxious and cantankerous posters and give them mod privileges and just see what happens... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600523) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:57 AM Author: trip legend you mean the date doobs first acquired his powers from bel until 4/1/15? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600665) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:51 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood but can't mods just straight up "disable" threads and make them unrecoverable? that's what doobs and some other mods did all the time. my apologies if this was covered already, haven't been keeping up |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:53 AM Author: Opaque awkward voyeur Second page please! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600644) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:56 AM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood also i kind of only skimmed the threads, but did not see ACP listed as one of the "trustworthy poasters". definitely don't give him mod power because i want him to keep living IRL and making moves in the great big city, but just felt the need to suck his dick for a lil. couldn't trust a guy more |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:16 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour How do you deal with tracking the "deletions" as opposed to the garbage board?
So lets say Benzo decides to out someone or kenny posts some fucking bullshit movie spoiler.
Part of the point of moderation is to remove that content completely. If people can see what was removed, that defeats the purpose of modding with respect to outing, and spoilers to a lesser extent. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:21 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal This seems right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600743) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:21 AM Author: Black overrated puppy Jesus fucking Christ. Now we're patrolling spoilers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600745) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:38 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour Think about it. Posting spoilers keeps people away from the board and harms the board. Same as outing and unreasonable span. It serves no purpose other than to make people avoid the board.
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:58 AM Author: Black overrated puppy You know what else makes the board worse?
This: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844678&forum_id=2 |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 5:07 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell I don't think I did that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601259) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:28 PM Author: drunken dilemma N-threading? 180
spoilers? Oh no we can't have that it drives people away! |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:37 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I kind of agree that "drives people away" isn't exactly what's motivating the policy here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603480) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:24 AM Author: multi-colored abode dont go to the garbage board if you dont want to see spoilers. seems easy. outting stuff needs to be wiped entirely, i agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600759) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:36 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour I would think that people would be interested in keeping track of what the mods do if possible. However nobody wants to have things spoiled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600811) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:39 AM Author: multi-colored abode posters have to make their own risk-reward calculus before entering the garbage board (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600820) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:39 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I think your point stands, though. If you go to the garbage board and see "TWIST deleted thread: ';,;,;..;, is John Smith, 2L at GULC'", well, everyone will still be able to identify ;,;,;..;, as John Smith, 2L at GULC.
Edit: I now see that nobody was disputing this, lol |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:43 AM Author: Sick chapel all of you tv-watchers need to stfu about tv show spoilers. idgaf. we dont need to design this boart around tv shows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600842) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:45 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal The idea is that the board be a place where at least a certain sort of person wants to spend some time. That sort of person might watch TV and people who watch TV don't want to be spoiled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600851) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:50 AM Author: multi-colored abode that's fine, delete the threads. no need to wipe them from accountability though. that should be reserved for special cases. if someone wants to be involved in the dirtier side of the board, they just have to accept that some shit like spoilers will get in there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600876) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:52 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal How do we keep them in "accountability" without showing what their content was? I mean in a logistical sense. What'll that look like? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600888) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:54 AM Author: multi-colored abode nah i mean we need to keep the content of spoiler threads in the garbage board. so if you want to check what's been deleted, you can see it in the garbage board. if you're so serious about tv that you are worried about spoilers, maybe stay on the regular board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600897) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:00 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Oh, sure, I agree with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600919) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:57 AM Author: Sick chapel another certain type of person who wants to spend time here might not want to see NIGGERTHREADS on the homepage. BU BU BUT WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE???
i just dont get why tv spoilers get a special carveout to otherwise non-outing free speech. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:59 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal People who get very jittery or upset about racial slurs are not our audience. We've already lost them.
People who want to consume popular media in an authentic way are definitely our audience. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:12 AM Author: Sick chapel tbf, i thought people who want to consume stormfront and/or russian military blogs are our oudience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600978) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:14 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal No. That explains your shitposting, though. Those people simply piggyback off of the free speech environment here, much as they would at 4chan or anywhere else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600987) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:15 AM Author: multi-colored abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600993) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:17 AM Author: Sick chapel um, you dont seem to get xo. the weirdos on this boart who dont do normal shit like discuss popular tv shows do give this boart an interesting character. nobody takes valen seriously, but it's lulzy to have some random dude poasting 5000 word rants about russian military that nobody ever fucking reads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601003) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:19 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal What the fuck are you even saying? How does someone spoil a popular TV show without discussing it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601009) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:23 AM Author: Sick chapel i'm saying that people who want to consume popular media in an authentic way are not necessarily our audience.
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:24 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Yes, and your supposed evidence was "I like this kooky guy valen, not people who talk about TV shows". But you're arguing against spoilers getting modded. My question is: how does one spoil a TV show without discussing it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601044) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:28 AM Author: Sick chapel i have no idea who even talks about tv shows. perhaps i like them; perhaps i don't. i dont even know who is in the tv show clique.
i dont understand your question. objection to form. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:59 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour the thing is even people who are weird and like to read valen spam about the russian military - they still like to watch game of thrones.
even if there is no boring TV discussion, you have mean spiteful idiots trying to ruin shit for others for no other reason than to try and destroy the board. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:03 AM Author: Sick chapel so, tv watchers see the tv spoilers as the 3nd biggest threat to the boart after outing and excessive spamming? i guess i just dont gaf, and i didnt even know this was an issue until a few weeks ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601197) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:06 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal It's not about what's a "threat to the boart". It's about what will make the board unenjoyable for the people who actually read it and what will make them leave, your ideas about who "gets" XO and who doesn't notwithstanding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601204) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:12 AM Author: Sick chapel why do we have to worry about scaring away people who dont want their tv shows spoiled, but not worry about scaring away people who are offended by niggerthreading? i just dont see why tv spoilers get a special carveout beyond any other shit that could be bothersome to a normal human being. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601214) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:32 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour because n-threading can be funny, it can be shocking, or it can convey speech for some people. The context and the content matters, but the only people who will be driven away from the board are the sensitive people who are easily offended - and xo is not really for them.
spoilers serve no purpose whatsoever other than to take something with is enjoyable to a large number of people, and ruin it for them. It's not trolling, its not expressing an opinion or trying to be funny or creative. its griefing, and that is bullshit. And mods in part try to protect the community - which is why outing is not allowed. anonymity and the ability to be offensive and offended is cherished here. deleting spoilers and banning griefers who are being intentional shitheads protects the community. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:36 AM Author: silver zombie-like pistol pit There were pretty good girl and minority posters that have been driven away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601241) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:40 AM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour xo is not a safe space where you cant get your feelings hurt. but it should be safe from people trying to affect your IRL.
n-threading can hurt feelings, but I think of posting movie spoilers as more akin to emailing a some girl barzini wants to date and telling her he posted about her online. It's not outing and getting him fired, but its grieving bullshit for the sake of being a dick.
I also think posting porn in threads advertising fluffy puppies is usually okay to delete to since this is intended to get you pwn3d at work. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:02 PM Author: Sick chapel i would agree that "tubgirling" (or poasting gay porn links as puppies) is bad. perhaps worse than tv spoilers. i dont personally care about nsfw. but other people do. but then where do we draw the line. does anything nsfw need to be labeled as such? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602436) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:03 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Rudolph thought so. I don't. I think if you make a thread that says "Pic of hot chick with huge tits" people should know there's a risk. On the other hand, if there's an option for mods to label a thread or post NSFW without deleting it, that could solve some of these problems, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602442) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:42 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I don't know about the minority posters, but women arguably are, or at least perceive themselves to be, at a higher risk from outers/spammers. Take the Lena Chen pumo, for instance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601246) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:55 AM Author: silver zombie-like pistol pit That pumo also posted IRL information for the Duke porn girl's parents on the board. Unhinged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601254) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 5:00 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I actually don't mind the Lena Chen and Belle Knox stuff as much as some of the other things he did. At least those two were notable in the media to a certain degree. He did similar things to just random undergrad chicks. I had to make a lot of decisions about it recently because I perma-deleted a lot of his threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601256) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:40 PM Author: drunken dilemma agreed my turdskin amigo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603497) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:18 PM Author: appetizing glassy gas station This sounds right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602912) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:28 AM Author: Bronze heaven Modding fucking spoilers on XO? Fuck that gay shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601850) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:28 AM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal This has been policy for a long time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601853) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:12 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi Just thread titles, which cannot be avoided by people visiting the site. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602848) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:20 AM Author: Submissive lascivious house old irish cottage Rachmiel please settle this debate with me and chilmata, he thinks 5 IPAs in 45 minutes is impossible while at a crowded bar with Shia lebouf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600739) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:10 AM Author: Nighttime water buffalo sex offender JFC I didn't say it was impossible. I said improbable. And those weren't your first beers of the night. I suppose you were pounding your Sierra Nevada Torpedos before that at a 9 minute pace as well? Nigga plz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600969) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 5:17 AM Author: dark rambunctious hell It's possible his doubts are about Shia's capacity, not your own. Shia strikes me as someone who drinks whisky in public for the macho points, but it takes a true man to drink that many IPAs. And who could doubt your manliness? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601268) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:22 AM Author: Twisted Jewess i predict this will end in disaster but much lulz will be had so i am for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600750) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:23 AM Author: Twisted Jewess really we just need rowan around to mod away all of the ducktales threads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600756) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:25 AM Author: Twisted Jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601836) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:13 AM Author: Glittery high-end internal respiration Odd experiment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27600982) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 4:02 AM Author: Fear-inspiring Lake Kitty Hospital sounds like metamoderation on slashdot circa 2001 but with like 8 people involved
can you film a webcast of this MAD REAL WORLD? |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 10:29 AM Author: Hairless stage Rach, did you call RSF's dad or not? the world wants to know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27601857) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:27 PM Author: dark rambunctious hell Years ago, I mean years ago. He was a nice man and relayed my question to RSF. I had limited information and I was trying to stop some kind of malicious actor on the site. I don't remember how I developed my theory that it was him, but it had something to do with something he posted once long ago, and I made a leap of faith connecting him with a pumo. It turned out that I was wrong about it and I felt like an idiot for wasting his dad's time. Anyway, that was another example of me connecting dots in the wrong way with limited data. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602533) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:04 PM Author: Chestnut jet-lagged marketing idea thank you. this post should be tattooed on benzo's face (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606234) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2015 2:09 AM Author: Histrionic round eye macaca Jesus that's fucked up.
Can you imagine your PARENTS getting a call from rach? |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:26 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi Just found this thread. I will happily volunteer to be an umod.
Several poasters can vouch for me, and if Estrada still lurks, he can verify I have been around since well before his time.
For my qualifications, see this: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844728&forum_id=2#27601513
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844728&forum_id=2#27601520
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844728&forum_id=2#27601542
And to prove that I am not unreasonably anti-modding, I believe I was the original proponent of expanding the law of the land to include deleting threads with spoiler titles. The particular thread was titled with a Watchmen spoiler (lol), and Earl participated in it. I think at the time, Earl was against modding spoilers. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:30 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I remember the old Watchmen threads getting modded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602546) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:08 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi That seems like forever ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602820) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:41 PM Author: Alcoholic Wagecucks Theatre Rach, what's your opinion of twist's modding activities in this thread:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844728&mc=79&forum_id=2
Twist seems to think it's nbd:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844820&mc=18&forum_id=2#27602364 |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:49 PM Author: dark rambunctious hell Not happy about it at all. I'm really surprised he did that.
Also, think about how messed up it is to censor someone's replies to your own in a message chain. It's a one-sided argument.
This is why I think a system of checks and balances could work nicely, too.
I'm bothered by this. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 12:56 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal If you unhide the messages you'll see they're all the same thing over and over again, which is information about a voicemail Taylor Swift sent you. I respect your opinion on this but I'd urge you to reconsider. Communications with you should not be fodder for people to use against each other in board drama. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602712) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:03 PM Author: dark rambunctious hell I looked at one wiped message and saw a tirade about someone that didn't include anything that was directly violating any rules. But yes, you are correct in what you said. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602757) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:06 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Well, I explained my reasons behind the decision in that thread. I'm not wedded to it but I'm fairly sure it's the right one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602785) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:41 PM Author: razzle gunner For application of the doctrine of the fruit of the poisonous tree to an In-Real-Life fruit's rantings, see Benzo v. Twist (2015) at http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844728&forum_id=2#27601465 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603104) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:42 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal hahaha. Yeah, something like that, ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603109) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:21 PM Author: heady home You're a psycho who has deep thoughts about his "enemies" on xo and other psycho shit. You shouldn't be a mod. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603782) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:22 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal You're Steroid Balls, so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603790) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:14 PM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour Personally I dont think describing a voice needs modding, but whatever.
I do think some discretion is needed when it comes to dealing with shitheads who are trolling and what content is being moderated.
For instance, lets say I write a parody song about RSF's dad being a shitlaw king making money off of burnt human flesh. While this is not outing, this is exposing (or at least repeating) some off board IRL information that maybe he did not want known. It could also help an ape detective out him. However the context of the post had nothing to do with outing and the content itself had some value.
Contrast this with Benzo, who is not creative at all, but who instead copies and pastes the same shit for the sole purpose of testing limits to be an annoying asshole. There is no content there. I think Benzo should be given less leeway when he is doing this - however the general rules should still apply. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:19 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Re your first example, Mountain Dood started a thread about stuff like that, kind of half-outing information: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844735&forum_id=2
This is the sort of thing that absolutely requires discretion and when the information came from a voicemail sent to the site's administrator, I think it should not be fair game. I guess I can see how Benzo's post might not have gone quite far enough, but people should be able to feel safe contacting Rach about being outed on the board. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:21 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi I agree that people should feel safe to contact Rach, but in this particular instance, Rach is the one who acted inappropriately. It's not the right or duty of the mods to make right all of Rach's fuckups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602957) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:23 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal When you say it that way it makes it sound as though I was protecting Rach. But I wasn't; I was protecting TSwift. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27602966) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:26 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi Protecting others from Rach's fuckups.
If the product of Rach's fuckup is outable information, mods can and should take action. If, however, it's simply someone's hurt feelings or pride, that sucks, but it is not the place for mods to try and make it right. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:34 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal I don't really agree with this. I think Rach will make mistakes and we should have flexible policies for minimizing harm in those cases. We already treat Rach differently than other posters in that he's given the discretion to out certain people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603049) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:41 PM Author: bearded center You are a priest trying to discern God's word, better to take a strict line when reviewing the limited scripture we have lest we all turn into unitarian faggots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603105) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2015 2:11 AM Author: Histrionic round eye macaca Yeah why did Rach share that dude's voicemail with Benzo?
WTF |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:19 PM Author: startling talented bawdyhouse fanboi The issue with the amount of leeway given to particular poasters will mostly take care of itself. Likeable poasters will always be allowed more discretion by good faith mods compared to the shitheads, and if a likeable poaster says something that turns out in retrospect to violate the Law of the Land, it can be cleaned up then.
Of course, this assumes Rach won't make horrible choices in who he appoints as mods, which given his track record over the last couple years, cannot be assumed. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:29 PM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour I think twist is a bit too invested but I guess we'll see.
Another thing I am curious about is whether punitive temporary bans are okay. Lets say PN shows up and spams someones name 50 times. Is it okay to delete the rest of his non spam stuff for a day or two while you wait for rach to ban him?
It's always weird to see PN complain that his one non outing post gets deleted after spending 4 hours spamming the board with outing shit. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:35 PM Author: Vigorous garrison son of senegal Yeah, I don't think I'm a great choice for a mod. The better mods are posters a bit more in your mold, like Gogol, flyfisher, etc. I don't think too many of them will be interested, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603063) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:07 PM Author: Chestnut jet-lagged marketing idea and their lack of interest (in both attention and gain senses) is why they need to be drafted, FORCED into being greedy little MODpigs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606264) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:29 PM Author: Sick chapel this is a good point. rach has made horrible choices in who becomes mods, and i'm afraid the new assignment of mods will be equally horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603013) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:37 PM Author: Glittery high-end internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603069) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:42 PM Author: bearded center today's mods >>> yesterday's mods
thats all we can be hope for |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:20 PM Author: heady home twist should NOT be a mod. Not saying he's a bad poster but he gets in and courts tons of beef with xo posters and has talked about how certain posters upset his OCD and make him go insane like shrewmo and benzo. Those guys are annoying, sure, but we shouldn't have mods who want to go on insane crusades against their perceived enemies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603774) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 1:47 PM Author: Twinkling tantric filthpig sneaky criminal you'll need at least 3 more tiers to pull this off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603140) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:35 PM Author: Sienna slippery theater I don't entirely agree with what twist did but he does have good intentions. This is not a black or white scenario. Have him come to an agreement with xo modlords on what is and is and isnt cceptable
Give it a little time guys. Don't rip on him right away. He's a far better choice than many of the fucktards we've had in the past |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:36 PM Author: dark rambunctious hell This. Twist is a good d00d. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603476) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 2:40 PM Author: Sienna slippery theater It's a transition period, these things will happen. Just communicate with one another and work things out rather than going apeshit. We don't neec another situation like what happened with me when even other mods refused to talk or even actively worked against me and I went off doing my own thing. Basic communication. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603500) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:23 PM Author: heady home (Guy who declared himself king of the board and started non outing content based censorship within two hours of getting mod powers) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603797) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 8:50 PM Author: henna bat shit crazy parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606085) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:12 PM Author: Yapping generalized bond rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606330) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2015 3:03 AM Author: Histrionic round eye macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27608957) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 3:38 PM Author: Aphrodisiac angry mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27603892) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 8:49 PM Author: Twisted Jewess So has this been implemented? Can we have shit tier mods that mod garbage board threads? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606077) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 8:50 PM Author: dark rambunctious hell Yesterday, tonight and this weekend I'll be working on these things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606083) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 8:53 PM Author: Twisted Jewess thanks, let me know if I should send around a dial in. Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606115) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:02 PM Author: Swashbuckling school quadroon I think I should be a mod. I've been here since the beginning. Mod me up, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606213) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:10 PM Author: Swashbuckling school quadroon I'm serious about this, rach. Put me in, coach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606303) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2015 9:16 PM Author: Swashbuckling school quadroon Seems like an OG can't get no love around here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2844632&forum_id=2#27606373) |