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Lawyer sues Skadden for overtime pay (WSJ)

http://www.wsj.com/articles/lawyer-sues-skadden-for-overtime...
Gabe Athouse
  05/31/15
There's already been tons of cases like this. They've all fa...
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  05/31/15
TRYING TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED GOD
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  06/01/15
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  05/31/15
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Poasting with tears in my eyes
  05/31/15
"Under federal labor laws, licensed lawyers can’t earn ...
Ghostface Billah
  05/31/15
Is this the whole like executive/managerial exception thing?
The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos
  05/31/15
professional exemption
corporate slave posting from a bathroom
  05/31/15
TY
The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos
  05/31/15
It's even worse than the other exemptions, which at least re...
andre pond cummings
  05/31/15
not an FLSA masterman... ...which is forgivable because F...
bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)
  05/31/15
Go on
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  05/31/15
Brother I am confused. Are you taking issue with my characte...
andre pond cummings
  05/31/15
i am, but no shame in that. the professional exemption cove...
bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)
  06/01/15
I disagree with your interpretation of the law, brother. Se...
andre pond cummings
  06/01/15
bumping this because i am no longer sure you're wrong. crcr...
bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)
  06/08/15
I think that's worded poorly/incorrectly. I believe it shou...
Metal Up Your Ass
  06/01/15
Didnt click but this must be an appeal or something bc he lo...
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  05/31/15
How many contract jobs do you think Mr. Lola has had since h...
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andre pond cummings
  06/01/15
Lol at doc review rates falling to $25 an hour. It used to b...
ARE Reptile
  06/01/15
and if this guy succeeds and gets doc review classified as n...
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The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos
  06/01/15
yeah, but they could probably do that already. when i gradua...
andre pond cummings
  06/01/15
At $25 an hour there is no point doing doc review. The work ...
ARE Reptile
  06/01/15
i have a friend who does HVAC installation. has a degree in ...
andre pond cummings
  06/01/15
legend has it that a very successful plaintiff's law firm hi...
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  06/01/15
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  06/08/15
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scholarship
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I think I got overtime when I did doc review in CA many year...
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  06/01/15
voluntary on the agency's (or law firm's) part. either that...
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  06/01/15
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Date: May 31st, 2015 10:27 PM
Author: Gabe Athouse

http://www.wsj.com/articles/lawyer-sues-skadden-for-overtime-1433110220

A lawsuit against legal heavyweight Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP is testing whether some purportedly professional work might in fact be eligible for overtime.

The case pits Skadden against a contract attorney hired by a legal staffing agency to review documents for $25 an hour on a Skadden case.

Under federal labor laws, licensed lawyers can’t earn overtime pay for work in excess of 40 hours a week if what they are doing is considered legal work. But the plaintiff, David Lola, says he deserves overtime pay because the tasks he did were so basic they shouldn’t qualify as practicing law.

The case could have a far-reaching impact, legal observers say. Contract attorneys are hired on a short-term basis across the legal profession to review reams of documents during the initial phases of litigation and investigations, and many feel they are underpaid.

Mr. Lola’s lawyer, D. Maimon Kirschenbaum, has another attorney overtime case pending as well, and contract attorneys are using Mr. Lola’s case as a rallying cry to raise awareness of what some see as unfair working conditions for document reviewers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009310)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:11 PM
Author: corporate slave posting from a bathroom

There's already been tons of cases like this. They've all failed. So not sure what would be diff about this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009719)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:40 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

TRYING TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED GOD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016291)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:12 PM
Author: ,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,..,.,.:...:.,:.::,.


http://www.jhllp.com/d-maimon-kirschenbaum.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009731)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:13 PM
Author: The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos (trainandpuppetshow@gmail.com. )

D. Maimon Kirschenbaum has been recognized as a “wunderkind of the plaintiff's bar” and the “patron saint of stiffed waiters.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009752)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:43 PM


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u: arranging signature pages, watching $250,000 bill for Dook accumulate at 7.8%, praying troutman sanders NY inexplicably decides to match davis polk scale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016316)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:46 PM
Author: Poasting with tears in my eyes

Jewy McJewJew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28010063)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:13 PM
Author: Ghostface Billah

"Under federal labor laws, licensed lawyers can’t earn overtime pay for work in excess of 40 hours a week if what they are doing is considered legal work."

lol why is this a fucking law? come on lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009745)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:13 PM
Author: The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos (trainandpuppetshow@gmail.com. )

Is this the whole like executive/managerial exception thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009757)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:15 PM
Author: corporate slave posting from a bathroom

professional exemption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009774)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:15 PM
Author: The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos (trainandpuppetshow@gmail.com. )

TY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009780)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:22 PM
Author: andre pond cummings

It's even worse than the other exemptions, which at least require that the employee be paid a salary of $455/wk. if you are a doctor or lawyer and engaged in your craft you can be paid a dollar an hour or nothing at all and its legal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009855)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:42 PM
Author: bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)

not an FLSA masterman...

...which is forgivable because FUCK wage and hour law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28010039)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:44 PM
Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.


Go on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28010054)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:47 PM
Author: andre pond cummings

Brother I am confused. Are you taking issue with my characterization of the TTT FLSA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28010077)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:39 AM
Author: bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)

i am, but no shame in that. the professional exemption covers overtime, not minimum wage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011512)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 9:08 AM
Author: andre pond cummings

I disagree with your interpretation of the law, brother. Section 13(1) of the FLSA provides an exemption from BOTH min wage and OT, as long as (in almost all cases) the "salary basis" test is met.

However, the regulations (29 CFR §541.304) specifically exempt doctors and lawyers engaged in the actual practice of medicine or law from the salary basis requirement of the FLSA.

I am not an FLSA masterman, as you pointed out, but I interpret this to mean that doctors and lawyers are essentially not protected at all by the FLSA. They are exempt from both OT and min wage regardless of how little they are paid (and thus whether they are paid at all). Maybe the courts have interpreted this differently, I dunno. I do barely any wage-hour work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011604)



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Date: June 8th, 2015 11:36 AM
Author: bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)

bumping this because i am no longer sure you're wrong. crcrcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28068031)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:42 PM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

I think that's worded poorly/incorrectly. I believe it should state that they're not ENTITLED to receive overtime. Certainly they COULD earn it if an employer would pay it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016308)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:16 PM
Author: ,,.,:,;..,;:.,;,.:;,..,;:..,; (xoxojbc@gmail.com)


Didnt click but this must be an appeal or something bc he lost this a while back I remember. Hope he wins. Fuck this fraudpie economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28009787)



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Date: May 31st, 2015 11:50 PM
Author: .,.,,,,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:.;.:.,:.::,.


How many contract jobs do you think Mr. Lola has had since he launched this quixotic lawsuit against a former employer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28010099)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 7:49 AM
Author: Gabe Athouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011421)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 1:58 PM
Author: andre pond cummings



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28013284)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:01 AM
Author: ARE Reptile

Lol at doc review rates falling to $25 an hour. It used to be $35.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011444)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:12 AM
Author: .,.,,,,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:.;.:.,:.::,.


and if this guy succeeds and gets doc review classified as non-law, the rate will drop even further because they will be able to hire just random people off the street to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011458)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:44 AM
Author: The Manafort Predicament that Angered Trumpmos (trainandpuppetshow@gmail.com. )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011535)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:35 PM
Author: andre pond cummings

yeah, but they could probably do that already. when i graduated, there were a lot of JDs (pending admission or people who just straight up failed the bar and gave up) doing doc review until DC made admission a requirement. they could honestly get someone of average or even low intelligence in high school to do this bullshit. which is why it's a joke that these poor people are exempt from overtime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016248)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:39 PM
Author: ARE Reptile

At $25 an hour there is no point doing doc review. The work is brutal. They sit there for 12 hours a day and cant get up to do more than piss for 2 minutes and come right back. That shit is fatal to your actual health. You are better off putting up drywall for $15 an hour cash and getting the exercise. After tax and factoring in the down time the drywall installer makes the same fucking money and he will live longer. And if you want to sit all day and never get up you can drive a bus and make the same money only with benefits. Bus drivers make like $25 an hour and get insurance and have more reliable work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016275)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:42 PM
Author: andre pond cummings

i have a friend who does HVAC installation. has a degree in social work but after literally 3 months as a social worker quit and became a bartender and ended up in HVAC.

after a couple years of making utter shit pay, he was making around 60k. but he's started selling equipment at his jobs and gets a commission. figures he should be making 100+ from here on in. dudes he works with make 200+ (but they are chill, fratty used car salesman types).

LOL at law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016304)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:51 PM


legend has it that a very successful plaintiff's law firm hires jr high and high school kids from the school where one of the partners coaches baseball to do all of their doc review (or at least all the doc review that they contract out).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016375)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:05 AM
Author: Bart O'Kavanaugh

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28011450)



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Date: June 8th, 2015 10:37 AM
Author: andre pond cummings



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28067732)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:36 PM
Author: Apollo Screed (autist-in-residence)

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016253)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:39 PM
Author: scholarship

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016279)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 8:57 PM
Author: ..;..;;..;;..;..;;.;;;.;.;.;.;..;.;..


I think I got overtime when I did doc review in CA many years ago. Not the case anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016433)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 9:02 PM
Author: andre pond cummings

voluntary on the agency's (or law firm's) part. either that, or there was a case where a court found doc review not to be the practice of law, but i'm not aware of any such case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016478)



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Date: June 1st, 2015 9:43 PM


"The work was more complicated than that, said Brian Gershengorn of Ogletree, Deakins ... who argued for Skadden[.]"

bold move keeping your trial firm that pays contract attorney wages to full time associates for that 2d cir appeal. if SCOTUS grants cert maybe they'll get jackson lewis and littler involved too. it'll be like david boies and ted olson teaming up to fight for gay marriage. but more like the fattest, slowest, ugliest upper deck passengers teaming up to hurl the weakened and malnourished steerage passengers overboard as they vie for space in the last rickety lifeboat before the N.Y.L.S. Titanic Scholar-SHIP sinks to the bottom of the shitlaw ocean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28016831)



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Date: June 4th, 2015 6:24 PM
Author: andre pond cummings



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28040283)



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Date: June 4th, 2015 6:25 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

*Lewis Brisbois gurgles in the deep*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2894870&forum_id=2#28040301)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: Gabe Athouse



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