Going to call it a day on live-in GF of 4+ years, making me avoidant
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Date: April 15th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: Odious theater stage
Tonight for instance. Staying home despite some goings on that I would normally enjoy. Told her I was feeling run down from work stuff and need some time to just hang out. She of course tried to hunker down with me but I encouraged her to go solo to the point of damn near pushing her out the door.
Haven't been engaging friends as much and ducking family who know and like her. The whole fiasco of cutting off a LTR when we're past mid 20s and everybody is assuming a nuptial track is too much to deal with. I'm going to be a fucking villain for months. She'll go berserk, cry, make me feel awful. Worrying about this is intruding on my life already, which should be fine save for this situation. People won't accept the real reason for call it quits and there will be constant suspicion about what really happened.
Should I just suck it up and enter a someone that I merely care for? The fallout from doing what I want is truly making me contemplate alternatives. Driving my car into light pole, as an example, and then blaming the eventual breakup on a TBI-related personality shift. Not flame. I thought about this multiple times last weekend when she was really getting on my nerves.
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Date: April 15th, 2017 7:49 PM Author: Odious theater stage
Not seriously attracted to her anymore, haven't been for a long time. Getting sick of her to the point where stupid shit pisses me off. She constantly laughs hard at her own jokes and she has come to constantly gossip about people we know. She's incredibly entitled, treats people poorly, and is very complacent about the relationship. She wasn't like that when I met her.
I'm not interested in kids right now but I like the idea of the option. She wouldn't be a good mother or balanced partner in a family household. She's kept it together remarkably well for late 20s but I am certain she'd start getting lazy in a marriage and gain weight. The behaviors of being too comfortable to give a shit are already creeping in. We're very compatible but too much on the friendly level for my taste.
This is a frequent and awful XO complaint and I'll justifiably get lit up for it but here goes. She's smart, but she't NOT ON MY INTELLECTUAL LEVEL. Probably read less than 20 novels in her entire adult life and most of those were shit like Jodi Picoult and Harry Potter. She's a social media and smart phone addict. I am not exaggerating when I say that. She compulsively checks her phone and looks at social media feeds like a teenager and she has no decorum or self-awareness with it. She has no serious interests of hobbies outside of shrew badges like travel and 'foodie' pursuits. All these things are innocuous on their own but when the fundamental attraction is gone, the compendium of grievances starts to weigh heavily.
The bottom line is I see no future in it and want out.
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Date: April 15th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: Odious theater stage
I wouldn't let it continue as an ongoing situation. Not sure if I'd cut her loose just for fucking around. If we're talking about this specific situation, as in I found out right now, it would come as a relief.
Cheating is sometimes about happiness for the people involved. Life is a little more complicated for many people than you make it out to be. I have to take your comments in the context that you're also one of those people who doesn't 'get' depression and largely thinks it's flame simply because you don't experience things like that.
I'm getting out of the relationship. I wasn't truly dissatisfied until around the holidays this year. What else should I do?
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Date: April 15th, 2017 10:50 PM Author: Odious theater stage
Not necessarily. And here is the thing that some people will never grasp: there is a very wide spectrum of tolerance for this stuff. Some people care significantly less than others. Their family history, personality, personal ethics and morality, sexuality and sexual preferences, and relationship history all factor in heavily. To some it's truly not that bad.
And here's something I know with absolute certainty even though it doesn't apply to me. The people who care more about infidelity care A LOT FUCKING MORE than the people in the middle of the curve. Just look to this thread. The majority of the people who saw it scanned it, decided I am a whiny bitch, and moved along. But 2-3 of you cleaved onto the infidelity bit immediately and focused on it like lasers.
People who get really mad about infidelity seem to feel it on a physical level, and irrationally. Like just the suggestion of it in any context riles you up. 29 the poster is like this as well. I'm always curious if it's because you guys all have traumatic experiences with people cheating on you, come from broken homes, or you just have some kind of hyper paranoid sexual jealousy instincts. You guys also go fully autistic on this issue and can never seem to wrap your heads around how anyone could possibly feel differently about the it.
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Date: April 15th, 2017 7:53 PM Author: Olive home
you should dump her for her sake, not for yours.
you probably wont do better and will settle in your late 30's for someone taking your money. But that is the misery we face when we aren't mature enough to look past the fact that our millennial wives read harry potter and enjoy instagram like every other woman.
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Date: April 15th, 2017 8:08 PM Author: contagious narrow-minded box office hairy legs
I recommend this book:
https://www.amazon.com/No-More-Mr-Nice-Guy/dp/0762415339/
(Ignore the corny description -- it's actually really good.) I'm guessing it will seriously hit home.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082328) |
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Date: April 19th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: Burgundy vigorous set tattoo
if that is what you want, fine. but don't say people didn't warn you that you are likely making an epic life-changing mistake.
I don't know the dynamics between you and your significant other and won't pretend to. Thus I can't comment on your specific situation. But your reasoning reeks of immaturity and short-sightedness, so I suspect you are making the wrong decision.
But whatever, it's your choice, I don't know you, and even though you professed to come here seeking advice, you seem to be set in your decision anyways.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33115747) |
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Date: April 19th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: Odious theater stage
I'm more venting and seeking commiseration than seeking advice although I wouldn't say I'm closed to advice. I just didn't see much in here that was reasonably responsive to my situation. Most of the advice seemed to come from a position of 'you're a piece of shit for cheating' or 'you'll never find someone else so you're insane to leave her.'
I guess I have to ask, what is the smarter alternative here? Try to force myself to be more attracted to her and want a future with her more? Just resign myself to the notion that I'll never be happy with anyone so may as well just hunker down with her? Embrace XO's certainty that I'll die alone if I don't marry off a 4 year relationship that spanned my late 20s and early 30s? Those all sound equally likely to make me miserable with the added bonus of dragging her into hell with me.
And before the XO armchair psychology corps jump on that, I am not operating under some hilarious delusion that I'm ultimately doing her a favor by ending things. That idea is stupid and has nothing to do with how I approach this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33115820) |
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Date: April 15th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: High-end spruce menage
Who cares? Everyone has a string of failed relationships until they meet their wife. You aren't special or different.
To limit blowback I'd suggest you reach out to a friend and move all your stuff to his place. Dump your gf and then block all forms of communication with her. This worked fine for me.
All of your real friends will side with you and you will never hear from your gf again.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082415) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 8:23 PM Author: Odious theater stage
I think I should point out that I am going to be able to find someone else. I am white, tall, fit, have my hair and good looking, high earner, educated, great family and wide circle of friends. My biggest detriments are posting on this shithold, marijuana addiction to the extent that most people can't really understand, and I don't place emphasis on a lot of the stuff that really high quality women want in life like family and other photo op posturing. I am also emotionally cold and have all the neurosis, unearned self-importance, and rotten cruelty of a career biglawyer.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082428) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 8:38 PM Author: High-end spruce menage
Another general rule I've found in relationships is that when the passion goes, it can never come back. The relationship is on tilt.
I've never had a relationship "turn around". Moving on is the best call.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082501) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 8:43 PM Author: Odious theater stage
Truly seems like some of the negative reaction in here comes from everyone's innate fear of being cheated on or dumped.
I'm not cheating on her and I'm doing what I consider to be the best thing for both of us by ending it. Explain to me how this is such a moral catastrophe.
I'm open-minded and I know I frequently act like a lunatic asshole while feeling completely justified in my actions at the time. Somebody make a clear and cogent case for why I'm wrong.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082535) |
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Date: April 15th, 2017 8:49 PM Author: Flushed lettuce
you mention above that you are emotionally cold
I have no advice but read this entire thread and that coldness really comes through in how you detail her, the relationship, your wishes for yourself going forward, etc.
I'd call the reactivity here in part to that coldness
hopefully someone in your future will incite a greater deal of warmth
gl
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Date: April 15th, 2017 9:12 PM Author: Flushed lettuce
the medium certainly doesn't help
and you're not necessarily presenting a novel case for bailing on a LTR
what's prevented you from giving her more direct feedback about your lack of commitment to the relationship in recent times? it seems you've been detaching more and more and she ought to have noticed but if that detachment could be understood as your normal order of coldness, I'd wonder if the reactions here are a reaction to what it would be like to lose love in an instant while the other person spent a significant amount of time preparing to leave.
I don't condone staying with someone who doesn't feel right - that's a long life
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Date: April 15th, 2017 9:25 PM Author: Milky violent pervert dilemma
the moral catastrophe is that you so casually cheat and youre clearly selfish. you dont even respect your partners enough to tell them that you dont believe in monogamy. whether or not youve cheated recently isnt the point.
you make it clear that you think that feelings moments of happiness are worth treating others badly
youre also sound nitpicky and extremely critical in a very cold way
and you seem to care more about the social fallout aspecs of the breakup than you do her feelings
you SHOULD break up w your gf because she deserves to be with someone who actually cares about her and wont lie about something that important.
you seem selfish and uncaring as FUCk
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Date: April 15th, 2017 10:23 PM Author: Odious theater stage
"the moral catastrophe is that you so casually cheat"
I cheated early on in the relationship. I haven't in years. Haven't even considered it. You're overreacting to a few cheap encounters when she was a person that I was merely 'dating' at the time. We had just sort of embarked on the first few months of any exclusivity, without even discussing the boundaries of the arrangement, the last time it happened.
"youre clearly selfish"
I wouldn't deny being selfish in some respects, but tell me why this is clear and outsized in my case.
"you dont even respect your partners enough to tell them that you dont believe in monogamy."
You're assuming this and I typically do believe in monogamy. So do many other people who screw up and cheat. Do you really want to turn this into some brainless definitional discussion of who the monogamy true believers really are? I respect other people and I don't make some point of being a habitual cheater. I have fucked up and done it anyway on a number of occasions. Don't confuse self-indulgence and weakness for some sort of unorthodox personal philosophy.
"whether or not youve cheated recently isnt the point."
You're holding past infidelity against me even though it's largely irrelevant to my current situation because that kind of behavior obviously upsets you. The fact that I screwed around on her a few times early in the relationship is a controlling factor for how you regard me and my decision. It's a little childish of you to dispense serious commentary when you're directed by this latent agenda but I appreciate that you're making an effort.
"you make it clear that you think that feelings moments of happiness are worth treating others badly"
This is nonsensical and unresponsive. Explain, if you can.
"youre also sound nitpicky and extremely critical in a very cold way"
Not at all when it comes to people but I can see why you're jumping to this poorly informed conclusion based on this thread.
"and you seem to care more about the social fallout aspecs of the breakup than you do her feelings"
I care a lot about that. I have been through this enough times in the past that I dread certain aspects of it. Part of the reason I made the thread was to hear similar stories and experiences.
"you SHOULD break up w your gf because she deserves to be with someone who actually cares about her and wont lie about something that important."
LOL, can't believe I got that far into the post before realizing you are wasted.
"you seem selfish and uncaring as FUCk"
Calm down. We're on XO, you know nothing about me, and as someone else correctly stated, I go to extraordinary lengths IRL to be NICE to other people. That's part of the reason I'm really taxed by something like a breakup.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33083217) |
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Date: April 15th, 2017 10:44 PM Author: swollen bronze feces den
Whoa
I was sympathetic to your position until I read this
You're a narcissist, friendo. I say that without a touch of spite or anger. Get help - it's possible. I did.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33083352) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 8:56 PM Author: silver startled faggot firefighter step-uncle's house
Nothing matters except her pussy's expiration date and whether she wants kids. If you told her you don't want kids, none of it actually matters. If you were 20, no one would give a shit - not you, nor xo. The only reason a woman of ~30 is "entitled" to be treated with such "dignity" is because of her pussy's looming expiration.
If some smokeshow who reads Chaucer walked into your life, you'd leave without a second thought, right? Life is a comedy of errors. You will never make the right choice. Just do and let do. That said, your rationale for leaving SUCKS. No woman is as intelligent as what you're looking for. Join a book club ffs.
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Date: April 15th, 2017 9:14 PM Author: sable abode
Most men do.
Either just fuck around totally casually or give up and get married.
This serial monogamy crap is worst of both worlds.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082681) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 9:40 PM Author: ocher psychic toaster
it's crystal clear you need to break up with her, and it's best for all parties that you do it ASAP.
this is a dead end for you and for her. things will not get better. only worse. only more resentment building on both sides.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33082862)
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Date: April 15th, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Slap-happy Athletic Conference Range
don't know your situation but sounds like all your "pros" for staying are like "people" will talk or you'll feel ostracized.
i don't know where you live but can't imagine that's really a problem. and seems like a bad way to make big personal life decisions.
just own your shit. you are actually fairly young. And you'll be better off finding a chick you dig with positive relationship momentum.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33083262) |
Date: April 15th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: Odious theater stage
LOL, this is the hardest I have gotten ripped on XO in a while. Probably deserved in this case.
I remember fatd00d essentially stated that he was stringing along this ARE country single mother who was a hairdresser or some shit because he liked fucking her and it was building his confidence back up. XO lapped it up and cheered him on. This place was dumping Gatorade on the guy for using her as a dually-purposed cum dumpster and artificial self-esteem springboard.
I'm feeling sorry for myself because I'm going to go through all grief, petty and large, of ending a long relationship and XO turns into 20K beefy cholos jacking off into my mouth for eternity.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33083509) |
Date: April 16th, 2017 12:01 AM Author: Pontificating brindle university
1. Yes, break up. Unfair to do anything else. No, you shouldn't just marry her when we all know you'll just treat her badly and probably get divorced.
2. I think you're totally fucked in life. You think extremely highly of yourself for all sorts of bullshit reasons ("omg, I've read NOVELS! I'm too good for this girl!"). You're looking for things that will never be true over the long term. You think being "too friendly" in a relationship is a bad thing. You're addicted to drugs. You're only getting older, and eventually you'll end up alone, working all the time in some bullshit high hours job hitting on divorced women in their 30s. But, you'll try to convince yourself that this is actually better for you, so maybe that is fine. But basically, you're a male shrew.
3. I've realized I have it pretty good in life.
4. You kind of remind me of Stabby.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33083858) |
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Date: April 16th, 2017 4:27 AM Author: Poppy center volcanic crater
Live and let live? Lol wut?
I think you have me confused with the "libertarian" stoners that you probably end up hanging around as a result of your drug addiction.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33084965)
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Date: April 16th, 2017 4:23 AM Author: crystalline locale
Meh, if you care about her, you at least owe it to her to tell her the problems you have with the relationship first. That will likely lead to the breakup conversation, but don't beat around the bush about it.
Worrying about what other people think when you feel like you need to break up with someone in order to be happy is ridiculous. Do what you have to do, and if the ppl around you care about you, they will understand and support your decision.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33084957) |
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Date: April 16th, 2017 5:07 AM Author: Curious school cafeteria philosopher-king
It's always the credited response.
The always end up with cunts and then complain about how all men are terrible.
I fucking hate all women.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33085012) |
Date: April 16th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: Heady Sapphire Public Bath Goyim
Surprised no one has asked if she got fat. Here are some considerations as far as casual sex goes:
Objectively, how attractive is she? How many women do you see in your day to day that are more attractive and that you would like to fuck? How many of those women do you have a realistic chance at? Do you have a large friend circle or network that can feed you young, attractive women? If not, have you ever done online dating? Do you mind fucking and dating app sluts, attention whores, and flaky girls that are 1-2 levels below you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33085912) |
Date: April 16th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Internet-worthy multi-colored indian lodge internal respiration
lol @ the fucking people in this thread who settled and are trying to justify their life choices. "you arent supposed to be happy with who you end up with, just tolerate them because your life is over!"
sounds liek a terrible relationship and you should not marry this chick. getting marreid and divorced (or just miserable for the next 20+ years is awful)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33086199) |
Date: April 20th, 2017 8:06 PM Author: white 180 house
lol at fplb who loves acting like he is above everything being super defensive in this thread.
It's easy to tell how this will end. In another 5-10 years, you'll still working yourself to death and no closer to finding a woman who has read Ulysses/gravity's rainbow or whatever other shit you fancy as signs of intellect.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33122107) |
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Date: May 6th, 2017 3:34 PM Author: Odious theater stage
I was relentlessly open in this thread and took many POZloads of hard criticism. Simply because I don't agree with every critique doesn't mean I got crazy or defensive. I deliberately shared a lot of negative shit about myself, something you have never done and are functionally not capable of doing because you care deeply about what XO thinks of you.
LOL at your misguided schadenfreude. You're better off using one of your pumos for this sort of thing. You know, the pumo account you used to talk about what a great person you are and how XO is just totally jelly of your wonderful life?
How do I act above it all? I'm most known for engaging in one of XO's shittiest aspects: trolling and antagonizing other posters. Granted, that's not as shitty as consistently using a pumo for years to promote yourself and attack other posters when you're afraid to do it under your own identity, but it's not entirely respectable.
I in no way work myself to death. I have only lasted this long because I make sure that this is never the case. I don't mind my work, only the people I work with. And even then the worst complaint is usually that they're very careerist and self-important. Sound familiar?
A second HEARTY LOL to your childish conception of what I'm looking for based on that criticism. The fact that you immediately choose two awful, notoriously difficult, LOOK AT THE BIG THICK IMPORTANT NOVEL ON MY SHELF books as examples of what you imagine I think is worthwhile says everything about you and nothing about me. 100% chance you're the kind of person who thinks it's cool and salt of the earth to boast about never reading or only reading genre trash, then in the same stroke you're never not concerned about which elite high school your kids are going to attend. To people like you, learning and cultural enrichment are useless if they're not ultimately a means of making more money or ingratiating yourself to your social betters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#33245231) |
Date: September 10th, 2019 2:33 PM Author: Thriller turquoise half-breed turdskin
LJL, I can't believe I didn't read this thread a year ago... Fat Plodding Law Beaver and me sound like the same person.
Any update here?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3585508&forum_id=2#38813955) |
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