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At Reed College, vitriolic campus free speech clashes are left v left [Economist

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21728688-reed-c...
Gay Weirdo
  09/21/17
Lmao
Boichester United
  09/21/17
"I'm at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especi...
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/21/17
lol, some of your best work yet evan
Mark Ironside
  09/21/17
...
Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy
  09/21/17
...
CharlesXII
  09/21/17
yep, historicity and objective facts are a tool of the white...
d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u
  09/21/17
Woke WOC I was chatting with about books casually dismissed ...
gibberish
  09/21/17
LOL what do we want? pure uncut total chaos communism! whe...
d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u
  09/21/17
What does she read?
Harvey Weinstein
  09/21/17
yep
Harvey Weinstein getting old-fashioned studio head
  09/21/17
...
the challenge of a heterosexual relationship
  09/21/17
...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,..,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.
  09/21/17
LOL
Fairly Honest Retard, as I understand it
  09/21/17
first order analysis--- these are students who ordered th...
t. beckersted
  09/21/17
It's rigorous, like Swat or Chicago!
CapTTTainFalcon
  09/21/17
a student at Swarthmore would deserve a similar fate.
t. beckersted
  09/21/17
"student"
Harvey Weinstein
  09/21/17
devastating
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  09/21/17
$67,000 a year
Harvey Weinstein
  09/21/17
OH GOD OH
t. beckersted
  09/21/17
Significantly more than any of these kids will make for year...
Harvey Weinstein
  09/21/17
The world has gone mad
IronMonkey
  09/21/17
Can't Reed College, I guess.
CharlesXII
  09/21/17
We used to buy smokes at the Reed college coffee shop at 15....
gibberish
  09/21/17
We used to blaze up with Johnny Hopkins and Sloane Kettering...
<(*V*)>
  09/21/17
Assistant professor Lucia Martinez Valdivia, who describes h...
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  09/21/17
The "Boys Don't Cry" anecdote is incredible. You ...
Thanks Mario! But our partner is in another castle
  09/21/17
...
Harvey Weinstein getting old-fashioned studio head
  09/21/17
...
Gay Weirdo
  09/21/17
the director is bad because she profited from trans violence...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  09/21/17
*senator kid rock fast-roping into this thread crooning &quo...
d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u
  09/21/17
is it time to consider the overall benefit to humanity by ac...
...,.;.,;;..,.,;;,,.,;.,.,,.,;,,;.,.,
  09/21/17
nah, more chill to let libs go 67k/year in debt HAHA!
below knee amputee [BKA]
  09/21/17
Not really because they are borrowing from us dude
Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy
  09/21/17
i've already looked at the data, and i wasn't surprised; we ...
the challenge of a heterosexual relationship
  09/21/17
and to think I almost went to this piece of shit college 15 ...
Magical Asian Assurance Company
  09/21/17
"Earlier in the year, demonstrators presented the admin...
Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster
  09/21/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAU5ebDseO0
KarlXII
  09/21/17


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Date: September 21st, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Gay Weirdo

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21728688-reed-college-oregon-shows-left-v-left-clashes-can-be-equally-vitriolic-arguments

Arguments over free speech on campus are not left v right

As Reed College in Oregon shows, left v left clashes can be equally vitriolic

FRESHMEN crowded the lecture hall at 9am for Humanities 110, the first class of their college careers. Elizabeth Drumm, the head of the programme, made some introductory remarks, her voice quavering. As some faculty members moved to take their places at a panel discussion, three demonstrators emerged from the wings of the auditorium. “We’re protesting Hum 110 because it’s Eurocentric,” one began. “I’m sorry, this is a classroom space and this is not appropriate,” Ms Drumm said, immediately cancelling the lecture. Thus began another academic year at Reed College, a liberal arts college in Portland, Oregon.

Last academic year, a dozen or so students continuously occupied the three-day-a-week lecture series by sitting in front of the auditorium with cardboard signs, sometimes taping their mouths in protest at the absence of non-white voices in the syllabus. One even took to lecturing the freshman class on the podium from an alternate curriculum before the start of each session. But this year, the college’s president sent out an e-mail outlining the school’s dissent policy 16 minutes before the lecture began, warning that the administration would act against potential violations. Reed College students were ranked as the most liberal and the second most studious in Princeton Review’s survey of its top 382 liberal arts colleges. That compound of leftist politics and serious scholarship proved unstable last year as activists managed to cow the college’s administration, students and faculty alike.

The protesters argue that the Humanities programme is racist because it ignores many of the world’s great civilisations and because its authors are overwhelmingly male and white. They point out that black students represent less than 3% of the school’s 1,400 students and argue that the administration has not done enough to support them. A good portion of the student body appear to support their goals and tactics.

Assistant professor Lucia Martinez Valdivia, who describes herself as mixed-race and queer, asked protesters not to demonstrate during her lecture on Sappho last November. Ms Valdivia said she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and doubted her ability to deliver the lecture in the face of their opposition. At first, demonstrators announced they would change tactics and sit quietly in the audience, wearing black. After her speech, a number of them berated her, bringing her to tears.

Demonstrators said Ms Valdivia was guilty of a variety of offences: she was a “race traitor” who upheld white supremacist principles by failing to oppose the Humanities syllabus. She was “anti-black” because she appropriated black slang by wearing a T-shirt that said, “Poetry is Lit”. She was an “ableist” because she believes trigger warnings sometimes diminish sexual trauma. She was also called a “gaslighter” for making disadvantaged students doubt their own feelings of oppression. “I am intimidated by these students,” she later wrote in a blog post. “I am scared to teach courses on race, gender or sexuality or even texts that bring these issues up in any way…I’m at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don’t believe in historicity or objective facts (they denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy).”

A few weeks later, the college invited Kimberly Peirce, the gender-fluid director of “Boys Don’t Cry”, which was widely praised as the first sympathetic portrayal of trans people in cinema. Protesters ripped down posters promoting the event and put up their own posters that said: “Fuck this cis white bitch” (“cis” being shorthand for cisgendered, or people who identify with their birth sex) and “Fuck your transphobia.” When Ms Peirce tried to speak, they shouted her down because they felt she had profited from violence against trans people and because she had cast Hillary Swank, a non-trans actor, as the lead. The dean of faculty, Nigel Nicholson, later wrote that students came to the session “asking questions designed to indict the speaker…It felt like a courtroom, not a college.”

Earlier in the year, demonstrators presented the administration with a sensible demand, to make more effort to attract and retain black students, and a lot of eccentric ones, including a beefed-up role for students in judging grievances against faculty, and collegewide racial sensitivity training. They also demanded a paid annual staff holiday honouring the day of their initial demonstration.

Thermidorian reaction

Many students have said privately that the campus has become a place where they are afraid to express dissenting opinions. Students who disagree with the protesters’ views, on social media, have been denounced as racists by activist leaders. A newly accepted international student was mocked when she asked her future classmates if there were any libertarian groups on campus. White students have complained that they have been told by other students that they are unjustified in speaking about race and identity in class. When one student voiced a dissenting opinion on social media, his classmate threatened to get him fired from his job at the college bookstore. “It’s an environment with limited representation of opinion, and it can be hostile to students who hold other views,” says Yuta Kato, a sophomore.

Yet at Reed College this term there are also signs of a counter-revolution. A professor of Muslim studies refused to lecture in front of protesters and taught his class of 150 students outside, under a tree. Some freshmen have shouted down protesters. One (black) student told them: “This is a classroom. This is not the place. Right now we are trying to learn. We are freshmen students.” The rest of his speech was drowned out by applause.

This article appeared in the United States section of the print edition under the headline "Blue on blue"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261118)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Boichester United

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261613)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

"I'm at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don’t believe in historicity or objective facts (they denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy).”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261642)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

lol, some of your best work yet evan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261662)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:22 PM
Author: Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263076)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261758)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:47 PM
Author: d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u (and icu)

yep, historicity and objective facts are a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262318)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:51 PM
Author: gibberish

Woke WOC I was chatting with about books casually dismissed Moby Dick as some shit by an old white guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262356)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u (and icu)

LOL

what do we want? pure uncut total chaos communism!

when do we want it? ~600 yrs ago, before white cishet western hegemony solidified!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262384)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:56 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein (Putting the "panic" back in Hispanic)

What does she read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262395)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein getting old-fashioned studio head

yep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262368)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: the challenge of a heterosexual relationship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263140)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,..,,.;:,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261670)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: Fairly Honest Retard, as I understand it

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261675)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: t. beckersted

first order analysis---

these are students who ordered their high school academic preparation in order to qualify for Reed. A school with a 31% acceptance rate with lower SATs in the 1300s. So, a competitive school that likely has a lot of "self selection" which likely artificially inflates it's acceptance rate. You don't "end up at Reed", you aspire to go there. in short, it's not a fate i would necessarily spare them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261686)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

It's rigorous, like Swat or Chicago!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261760)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: t. beckersted

a student at Swarthmore would deserve a similar fate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261776)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:13 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein (Putting the "panic" back in Hispanic)

"student"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261955)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:21 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262027)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein (Putting the "panic" back in Hispanic)

$67,000 a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261747)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: t. beckersted

OH GOD OH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261771)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein (Putting the "panic" back in Hispanic)

Significantly more than any of these kids will make for years after graduation (they don't have engineering right?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261787)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: IronMonkey

The world has gone mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263132)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

Can't Reed College, I guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261765)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:09 PM
Author: gibberish

We used to buy smokes at the Reed college coffee shop at 15.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34261902)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: <(*V*)>

We used to blaze up with Johnny Hopkins and Sloane Kettering everyday after school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263231)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:20 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

Assistant professor Lucia Martinez Valdivia, who describes herself as mixed-race and queer, asked protesters not to demonstrate during her lecture on Sappho last November. Ms Valdivia said she suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and doubted her ability to deliver the lecture in the face of their opposition. At first, demonstrators announced they would change tactics and sit quietly in the audience, wearing black. After her speech, a number of them berated her, bringing her to tears.

Demonstrators said Ms Valdivia was guilty of a variety of offences: she was a “race traitor” who upheld white supremacist principles by failing to oppose the Humanities syllabus. She was “anti-black” because she appropriated black slang by wearing a T-shirt that said, “Poetry is Lit”. She was an “ableist” because she believes trigger warnings sometimes diminish sexual trauma. She was also called a “gaslighter” for making disadvantaged students doubt their own feelings of oppression. “I am intimidated by these students,” she later wrote in a blog post. “I am scared to teach courses on race, gender or sexuality or even texts that bring these issues up in any way…I’m at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don’t believe in historicity or objective facts (they denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy).”

A few weeks later, the college invited Kimberly Peirce, the gender-fluid director of “Boys Don’t Cry”, which was widely praised as the first sympathetic portrayal of trans people in cinema. Protesters ripped down posters promoting the event and put up their own posters that said: “Fuck this cis white bitch” (“cis” being shorthand for cisgendered, or people who identify with their birth sex) and “Fuck your transphobia.” When Ms Peirce tried to speak, they shouted her down because they felt she had profited from violence against trans people and because she had cast Hillary Swank, a non-trans actor, as the lead. The dean of faculty, Nigel Nicholson, later wrote that students came to the session “asking questions designed to indict the speaker…It felt like a courtroom, not a college.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262018)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:35 PM
Author: Thanks Mario! But our partner is in another castle ( )

The "Boys Don't Cry" anecdote is incredible. You can LITERALLY be a person who made a movie celebrating trans people in 1999 and still be engaged in wrongthink.

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A few weeks later, the college invited Kimberly Peirce, the gender-fluid director of “Boys Don’t Cry”, which was widely praised as the first sympathetic portrayal of trans people in cinema. Protesters ripped down posters promoting the event and put up their own posters that said: “Fuck this cis white bitch” (“cis” being shorthand for cisgendered, or people who identify with their birth sex) and “Fuck your transphobia.” When Ms Peirce tried to speak, they shouted her down because they felt she had profited from violence against trans people and because she had cast Hillary Swank, a non-trans actor, as the lead. The dean of faculty, Nigel Nicholson, later wrote that students came to the session “asking questions designed to indict the speaker…It felt like a courtroom, not a college.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262176)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:45 PM
Author: Harvey Weinstein getting old-fashioned studio head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262296)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: Gay Weirdo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262412)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (verified poaster )

the director is bad because she profited from trans violence, but she's also bad because she didn't cast a tranny, thus allowing zhim to profit from trans violence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262877)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: d( . )n't run nigga i see y( . )u (and icu)

*senator kid rock fast-roping into this thread crooning "u get what u put in, AND PPL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE"*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262341)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: ...,.;.,;;..,.,;;,,.,;.,.,,.,;,,;.,.,


is it time to consider the overall benefit to humanity by actually burning these places down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262805)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:13 PM
Author: below knee amputee [BKA]

nah, more chill to let libs go 67k/year in debt HAHA!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263007)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:24 PM
Author: Shitvoters elect Shitliberals, Randy

Not really because they are borrowing from us dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263093)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:35 PM
Author: the challenge of a heterosexual relationship

i've already looked at the data, and i wasn't surprised; we need to torch the colleges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263168)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 5:57 PM
Author: Magical Asian Assurance Company

and to think I almost went to this piece of shit college 15 years ago...LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262924)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:09 PM
Author: Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster (Tax survivor)

"Earlier in the year, demonstrators presented the administration with a sensible demand, to make more effort to attract and retain black students,"

lol, black people aren't insane enough to attend Reed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34262990)



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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:12 PM
Author: KarlXII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAU5ebDseO0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738965&forum_id=2#34263005)