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JFC, how many MLS teams do we need?
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:06 PM Author: Sadistic elastic band space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958196) |
Date: December 19th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: Razzle Rehab Brethren You aren't exited to see the REVOLUTION take on the SOUNDERS in a thrilling 0-0 match in front of 8500 screaming millennials? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958205) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line The sounders always sell out bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958212) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: french theatre They tarp off 2/3 of the stadium (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958499) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: Razzle Rehab Brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34966776) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Pearl garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958217) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:34 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home You should know that the Sounders sellout all the time and are a major part of the Seattle area sports culture. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958452) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:35 PM Author: Razzle Rehab Brethren It's all faggy bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958458) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:35 PM Author: At-the-ready people who are hurt resort lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958468) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: Racy heaven trust fund lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958503) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:49 PM Author: Cordovan mental disorder lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958596) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:50 PM Author: Cruel-hearted Electric Corner Sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958604) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:54 PM Author: Mustard famous landscape painting lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959270) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 3:12 PM Author: Coiffed Pocket Flask Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959466) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 3:57 PM Author: Infuriating beady-eyed point immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959857) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:39 AM Author: Silver tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964257) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:49 AM Author: Dashing Anal Incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964276) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 4:51 AM Author: Wine Theater Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964341) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 10:57 AM Author: Olive half-breed dopamine devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34965860) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Sepia Becky If in Seattle is 48500 screaming millennials
If in Boston it's 850 |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Racy heaven trust fund 0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958210) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line Frank Lloyd Wrong had an interesting poast saying that MLS was a ponzi scheme propped up by expansion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958216) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: bipolar church building mood everyone says that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958218) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: vengeful impertinent dilemma wrinkle Link or summary? Sounds interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958642) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: smoky outnumbered stag film Who goes to these games? Mexicans? Wannabe Euro-fags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958376) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:26 PM Author: Sadistic elastic band space The latter. I believe Mexicans prefer to watch Mexican league games on Spanish TV. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958385) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home True, although they do go to and watch MLS games too. MLS has the most hispanic fanbase among the major sports. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958439) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:36 PM Author: At-the-ready people who are hurt resort % wise or in absolute numbers?
i'd think baseball and boxing have much higher numbers of mexican fans, no? |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: Learning Disabled Gaped Quadroon Hairy Legs lol at him actually having numbers to back up the horseshit he spews constantly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958498) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:51 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home Hey Watchmen pumo!
"Major League Soccer has the highest share of Hispanics by far (34 percent; second is the NBA at 12 percent) and the lowest income of any major sports audience. Nearly 40 percent of its fans make less than $40k."
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/which-sports-have-the-whitest-richest-oldest-fans/283626/ |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: bipolar church building mood liga mx does better in tv viewing than mls though some mexicans also watch mls. in general they're kind of snobby about liga mx being better than mls which is why it will be funny when mls teams start consistently beating mexican teams in concacaf champions league. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958501) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:39 PM Author: bipolar church building mood combination of those two plus first and second generation immigrants from euro nations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958491) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:42 PM Author: Racy heaven trust fund games? don't you mean MATCHES? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958507) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: Sadistic elastic band space He's lost the plot, mate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958519) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:45 PM Author: Racy heaven trust fund *hangs self w/ scarf* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958551) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:42 PM Author: french theatre Dorky midwest transplants from small towns who never played a sport in their lives and chandler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958511) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: bipolar church building mood me too though TFC is the "it" team here and real sports fans are into them not just dorks. we also have lots of swarthy immigrants from actual soccer places who are crazy about the team (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958527) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: mint exciting parlor It's just dorks lil breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958666) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: bipolar church building mood lots of dorks but not JUST dorks. also depends where you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958679) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: mint exciting parlor Only dorks go to sportball games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958850) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:13 PM Author: bipolar church building mood (alt right lauren southern geek) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958873) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:16 PM Author: mint exciting parlor ("Man" with TFC scarf draped over his saggy IPA tits) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958894) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:17 PM Author: bipolar church building mood ("man" watching jordan peterson videos at 1 a.m. on friday) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958911) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:23 PM Author: mint exciting parlor Jared Taylor actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958971) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:30 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line I go to mls games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958420) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:48 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone background story striped hyena season ticket holder here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958589) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: Sadistic elastic band space MLS fans: aren't you worried that having so many teams dilutes the talent pool too much?
Yeah, MLB/NBA/NFL all have 30+ teams but America has a lot of good players in those sports. We suck at soccer so why not keep the league smaller until we actually start producing good players in large numbers? Anything more than like 16 teams just seems crazy. |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:56 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line What US talent has been developed by the smaller MLS? The talent is probably getting better with expansion because we have more foreigners in MLS now. US talent development has been a huge failure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958676) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:57 PM Author: bipolar church building mood cr MLS has done more for central american players than american players. the three canadian teams have produced next to no national team players either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958689) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line I think US players playing with higher quality foreigners will increase their level of play. MLS teams have a lot more to spend on players now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958719) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: french theatre Ljl the league is worse than ever before, horeible standard of play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958756) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line Wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958778) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:07 PM Author: french theatre (Chad Barrett signing contract extension) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958796) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: bipolar church building mood the league is a lot better than it used to be. ten years ago it was lulzy. there is some real young talent in the league now and teams that are good tactically and technically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958838) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line Barrett is the type of dude who would have always made it in MLS. Even a European team gave him a shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958840) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:15 PM Author: french theatre I know him IRL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958881) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:18 PM Author: Peach angry personal credit line Is he a chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958926) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:20 PM Author: french theatre Yeah he was nailing a lot of hotties at UCLA back in the myspace era (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958947) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:09 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home "Ljl the league is worse than ever before,"
No way. Did you watch it in its first 10 years? It's the best it's ever been, though it's improvement has stagnated in the past few years as it has developed into a niche league. Obviously the quality of play isn't near the top leagues in Europe. |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: french theatre League peaked in 02-05ish
Back then MLS teams could compete internationally. Now they get gaped by liga mx trash |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:12 PM Author: bipolar church building mood the mexican teams didn't take those matches seriously and they were one-offs. the new format is much better and the liga mx teams will for the most part be playing their a teams. the late 90s mls CCL wins don't really count (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958855) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 3:56 PM Author: contagious insane rigpig cuckold Yea, what is this guy talking about. I'm not even sure MLS was playing soccer for the first 10 years, they had bizarre rules. The teams were terrible, it was like watching a high school team play. They had the athletic kid, the kid with the weird haircut, the foreigner and they couldn't string 5 passes together or stay in position.
MLS is miles better now, its actually watchable. Actually think a few MLS teams could do decent in the English Championship |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 4:09 PM Author: bipolar church building mood MLS doing well against Mexican teams should win the hispanic eyeballs they need to start snowballing growth in the league. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959930) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 4:13 PM Author: contagious insane rigpig cuckold Well I think if the MLS lifted the caps they would easy be able to push past all but a couple of Mexican teams. But the way the league is structured, they really won't move until ALL the teams are in a financial position to do so. Even now though MLS is a pretty good destination for most central american and caribbean players. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959971) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: bipolar church building mood i agree and that'll increasingly be the case. but up until now mls hasn't provided a high enough standard of competition (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958762) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: Sadistic elastic band space Do Americans really want to watch a league of all foreigners? They can just watch EPL games in that case. I thought a big part of the appeal of MLS was to watch home-grown players that also play on the national team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958704) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:01 PM Author: bipolar church building mood there's a limit on international spots. teams actually trade the spots too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958737) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: french theatre Tim Howard Brian Mcbride Landon Donovan Beasley |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 4:11 PM Author: sable address cumskin McBride played in college and Donovan went to Germany. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34959946) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home Talent dilution isn't as much of an issue for soccer which is truly an international sport. MLS can import plenty of talent. My issue with MLS is the league's strong push for parity through draconian salary caps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958707) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: At-the-ready people who are hurt resort are they just the same salary caps as every other US league? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958759) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 2:06 PM Author: bipolar church building mood there's a total team budget and a max and min on individual salaries. then there are designated player slots where teams can spend whatever they want on three players. then there is money they can use to buy down expensive players to below the max salary so they don't count as designated players. then there are homegrown contracts that don't count against the cap... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34958786) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:38 AM Author: flickering burgundy business firm mexican No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964255) |
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Date: December 19th, 2017 4:00 PM Author: contagious insane rigpig cuckold They need more teams. The only reason to watch MLS over other international leagues is because you can actually go to games. Until a few years ago they didn't have a single team in the southeast. Why would anyone there care?
They should expand to 40-48 teams and then split into 1 and 2 tier based on relegation. Owners can only relocate teams who finish in relegation in the 2nd tier. |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:51 AM Author: provocative kitty cat trailer park lol @ our billionaires ever agreeing to relegation in any sport. unlike Europe or South America sports teams are nothing but investments and these guys dont give a shit about winning or improving the quality as long as they can sell tickets and make money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964282) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:52 AM Author: flickering burgundy business firm mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34964283) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 4:51 AM Author: contagious insane rigpig cuckold I think they would agree to it if you let them own a team in each division, and then only relegated the bottom team each year. Each division has its own salary caps but once a team is promoted they (permanently) have the higher divisions salary cap. Would ensure that even if a big market gets relegated they will have an advantage to get back up.
If they swallowed the USL thats about 60 team. Split into 3 divisions based on market size and every year the worst team gets relegated and the top team gets promoted. every team plays twice and then you have MLS cup where all 3 divisions compete knockout. Owners can own 1 team in each division, and can continue to own if they get promoted (but can't own a 4th team).
MLS is a monopoly and I don't think the owners would care about relegation as long as they still have that monopoly. A 60 team 3 division MLS would ensure it's the only soccer league in US/Canada going forward and would have a team in every relevant market. The division 2/3 clubs are not that valuable, giving current owners a chance to buy and lock in now would be a no brainer for many I think. |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:44 PM Author: bipolar church building mood imagine Nashville playing Barcelona or Bayern Munich in the World Club Cup. lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34966712) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: Greedy Drab Genital Piercing Nursing Home It's not THAT improbable in the future. We're a big, rich and diverse market. Without the enforced parity, we would, at this point, probably have a super-club or two that would be a mid-table or better epl team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34966769) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: bipolar church building mood no, i know. there's just something funny about nashville in particular because it calls to mind cowboys boots and hats.
tfc and even seattle have an outside shot of winning concacaf champions league this year. |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 2:46 PM Author: contagious insane rigpig cuckold Galaxy would be top 6 EPL quality already if not for the caps. But with the caps in place they will never be able to match Barcelona or Bayern. But while I think MLS is dead wrong on a lot of things, like having playoffs, I don't think Americans would tolerate a league where 2-3 teams win ever single year for 10+ years.
Really all we need to do is be better than mexican, brazilian and argentine leagues. We are by far the wealthiest market in the Americas. Even with mediocre interest in the sport MLS could and should be the top league in N/S America. MLS will be a serious league when midlevel brazilian guys come here instead of playing for Real Sociedad. |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:45 PM Author: Passionate bistre rigor pervert zero (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34966726) |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:52 PM Author: bearded swashbuckling temple psychic so where is Columbus moving again?
the idea that both Columbus and Cincinnati need soccer teams is ludicrous. especially when, after the Bengals debacle, Cincinnati is never going to build a stadium. |
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Date: December 20th, 2017 12:53 PM Author: bipolar church building mood Austin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3834371&forum_id=2#34966793) |