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Millennial reporters are a disaster

The rise of millennial "journalists", especially f...
Bossy native lettuce
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Bat Shit Crazy Set
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free-loading dog poop filthpig
  07/16/18
this is actually great news. the "elite" medi...
Misunderstood crimson toaster
  07/16/18
All news is like this now, not just elite news. Even ostens...
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
have any other civilizations allowed hysterical female child...
bistre cerebral church building electric furnace
  07/16/18
It is unprecedented
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
well. what do you think precipitated the decline of rom...
Misunderstood crimson toaster
  07/16/18
Soon after this "evolution" to woke, feminist marr...
Misunderstood crimson toaster
  07/16/18
didnt constantine crack down on marriage stuff bigly...but t...
bistre cerebral church building electric furnace
  07/16/18
again, this is good news. young white men are just bein...
Misunderstood crimson toaster
  07/16/18
yea I know fewer and fewer white dudes willing to toe this l...
bistre cerebral church building electric furnace
  07/16/18
imagine the ones who are teens now.
Misunderstood crimson toaster
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learning disabled dysfunction
  07/16/18
Your OP about the circumstances of who ends up in journalism...
Exhilarant institution milk
  07/16/18
this has to be a post-Internet development strangely, # o...
Passionate carmine kitchen therapy
  07/16/18
Circulation is plummeting but readership remains relatively ...
Exhilarant institution milk
  07/16/18
Maybe longer. But it seems like things have gotten worse. In...
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
and for a long time after there were still substantial amoun...
Maize alcoholic church
  07/16/18
Exactly
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
Journalism became a professional class job after Watergate. ...
Exhilarant institution milk
  07/16/18
a lot of them have "life experience" in the sense ...
Maize alcoholic church
  07/16/18
I am skeptical that this is the case. Maybe an elite few. Bu...
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
i know many of these. a lot of the type who bounces around a...
Maize alcoholic church
  07/16/18
jfc at these 22 year old bratty girls screaming at public fi...
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  07/16/18
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Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
Musk's trolling of the media has really been inflaming them....
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
lmao i loved that tweet
Maize alcoholic church
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Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
JFC, XO is now siding with fucking elon musk, who has all bu...
contagious travel guidebook
  07/16/18
this is how libs think folks
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Bossy native lettuce
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  07/16/18
It's hard to make money in the news business with the intern...
Bipolar House Dingle Berry
  07/16/18
(Noah Smith)
bistre cerebral church building electric furnace
  07/16/18
Look at the insight we are gaining with this new crop of jou...
Bossy native lettuce
  07/16/18
The fuck?
bright boiling water
  07/16/18
She is shaping the opinions of her 100K followers on Twitter...
Bossy native lettuce
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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

The rise of millennial "journalists", especially female journalists, has been a disaster. The death of journalism as a real business has led to a situation where almost all new journalists must be willing and able to work for free until they can get a job paying next to nothing. Oh and you need to have connections and probably attend an elite school to get this job. So who does this job now? The narcissistic sheltered children of wealthy people on the East and West Coast.

Most of the media knows nothing. They have literally no real skills, life experience, or any familiarity with the lives, ideas and opinions of people outside of their bubble. This has always been somewhat the case in the U.S., but the situation today is much worse.

As Ben Rhodes (Obama's speechwriter) discussed in the NYT, this situation makes journalists easily manipulated. But what he isn't going to complain about is their extreme bias and lack of a sense of decorum. Look at the way these young female journalist act on twitter, email, or in life in general. The standards of decency have gone down and will only continue to degrade over time.

https://twitter.com/jmcduling/status/1018713080342048769

https://twitter.com/maxwelltani/status/953729116649517056

https://nypost.com/2018/06/09/new-york-times-reporter-broke-the-biggest-rule-in-journalism/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438662)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Set



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: free-loading dog poop filthpig



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Misunderstood crimson toaster

this is actually great news.

the "elite" media has discredited itself right into the trash bin of irrelevance.

where they always belonged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438723)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

All news is like this now, not just elite news. Even ostensibly non-political websites, like Gizmodo or The Verge, have inane Millennial political commentary and "think pieces" now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438763)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

have any other civilizations allowed hysterical female children take the reigns of molding public opinion and policy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438785)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

It is unprecedented

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438809)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Misunderstood crimson toaster

well.

what do you think precipitated the decline of rome?

"Think no-fault divorce is a modern invention? Not so! Susan Treggiari, a Stanford classics professor and author of the book “Roman Marriage” explains that ancient Romans were the ultimate realists when it came to marriage. Over a mere few centuries, they developed divorce laws that in some respects are more liberal than many state divorce laws today.

In the early days of the empire [xo ed: they mean republic here], husbands had the right to divorce their wives for any number of offenses, from adultery to making copies of the household keys to drinking wine (no go, afternoon chardonnay sippers). Roman husbands could also dump their wives for not producing an heir. Notably, it was not necessarily deemed the wife’s fault if she didn’t bear a son. And if a husband wanted to leave his wife, he had to give back her dowry, so that she would be eligible to marry again. That’s right, she took away exactly what she brought to the marriage.

As time went on, the customs of marriage and divorce in ancient Rome evolved. Eventually, wives were given the power to initiate divorce, and by the first century B.C.E. the Roman version of the no-fault divorce emerged. Either spouse could choose to leave a marriage at any time, and for any reason, including the desire to simply no longer be married!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438915)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood crimson toaster

Soon after this "evolution" to woke, feminist marriage laws was complete Rome was in full blown crisis mode as the patriarchy/family disintegrated leading to eg,

"The Lex Papia Poppaea was a Roman law introduced in 9 AD to encourage and strengthen marriage. It included provisions against adultery and celibacy and complemented and supplemented Augustus' Lex Julia de Maritandis Ordinibus of 18 BC and the Lex Iulia de Adulteriis Coercendis of 17 BC. The law was introduced by the suffect consuls of that year, Marcus Papius Mutilus and Quintus Poppaeus Secundus, although they themselves were unmarried."

Sick and sad!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438945)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

didnt constantine crack down on marriage stuff bigly...but that was much latter and the die had already been cast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438957)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Misunderstood crimson toaster

again, this is good news.

young white men are just being forced to opt out of the faggot mainstream media/culture bc its so over-the-top kiked.

accelerationism is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438787)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

yea I know fewer and fewer white dudes willing to toe this line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438792)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Misunderstood crimson toaster

imagine the ones who are teens now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438811)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: learning disabled dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438734)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Exhilarant institution milk

Your OP about the circumstances of who ends up in journalism has been true for at least 20 years, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438735)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Passionate carmine kitchen therapy

this has to be a post-Internet development

strangely, # of newspaper subscriptions technically peaked in 1993-1994. but the real internet dropoff started after 2004

http://www.journalism.org/fact-sheet/newspapers/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438766)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Exhilarant institution milk

Circulation is plummeting but readership remains relatively high when you incorporate the online numbers. The problem is that newspapers were way to slow to recognize they needed to charge online readers for subscriptions because the big online readership numbers didn't result in large enough ad revenue. They just kept chasing larger online audiences instead of trying to recapture the lost subscription revenue online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438950)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

Maybe longer. But it seems like things have gotten worse. In the old days, you would have kids who went to the University of Missouri's J-school or went to UT or wherever. Those days are gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438774)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Maize alcoholic church

and for a long time after there were still substantial amounts of boomers around who had only high school and came from blue collar families. sort of the same way that the left used to be with labor and union leaders. now it's just a bunch of over-educated, under-experienced sanctimonious coastal rich kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438799)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438819)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Exhilarant institution milk

Journalism became a professional class job after Watergate.

Entry-level salaries were better in the 80s relative to what they are today, but they've been very low for a long time. You have to go back to the 60s to find the blue collar reporters coming in.

What's changed in the last 10-15 years and probably has made the situation worse is the career prospects have diminished significantly as newspapers are shrinking and closing. You've seen a ton of people exit the industry in the last 20 years without being replaced.

That's exacerbated what OP is noting, but it's really not fundamentally different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438911)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Maize alcoholic church

a lot of them have "life experience" in the sense that they're well-traveled third culture kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438761)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

I am skeptical that this is the case. Maybe an elite few. But even if that is the case, it is possibly worse in my opinion. These people are literally rootless cosmopolitans who can't identify with the concerns and lives of common Americans. And then get confused by the rise of Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438802)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Maize alcoholic church

i know many of these. a lot of the type who bounces around all over the place from publication to publication for internships and small contracts are like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438829)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

jfc at these 22 year old bratty girls screaming at public figures like they were last chad to break their heart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438776)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

Musk's trolling of the media has really been inflaming them. They are definitely out to get him now. More public figures need to fight back.

http://time.com/5289630/elon-musk-media-twitter-rant-tesla/

“They’re just some rich kids in Berkeley who took their political science prof too seriously,” Musk tweeted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438907)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Maize alcoholic church

lmao i loved that tweet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438914)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: contagious travel guidebook

JFC, XO is now siding with fucking elon musk, who has all but announced his plans to turn us all into food and/or glue for his immortality project?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438974)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

this is how libs think folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36438979)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: stimulating metal nursing home



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Bipolar House Dingle Berry

It's hard to make money in the news business with the internet and social media. Google and Facebook take a big chunk of your ad revenue and then you have a billion people and other publications sharing/stealing your news instantly. It's especially difficult to make money as a sober, level-headed, above-it-all publication. So traditional media is going the way of partisan media outlets and squeezing out nickels and dimes.

Bloomberg is an exception. They can play the intelligent moderate because their revenue stream largely comes from other sources.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36439106)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: bistre cerebral church building electric furnace

(Noah Smith)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36439167)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

Look at the insight we are gaining with this new crop of journalists. If there is one thing Communist regimes were uniformly opposed to it was large prison systems. That and draconian state violence.

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/ash-sarkar-communist-called-piers-morgan-idiot

Also, being a communist means being a fierce critic of the prison industrial complex and the military industrial complex. The expanded use of drone warfare and the expansive use of deportation under Obama. You can be a vocal critic of all those things, while also looking at how Trump [has done them] because, quite simply, he was able to build on a lot of Obama's legacy, particularly in terms of executive overreach. He's been able to pursue extreme, draconian forms of state violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36439491)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: bright boiling water

The fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36439536)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Bossy native lettuce

She is shaping the opinions of her 100K followers on Twitter. The lack of historical knowledge that can make anyone state something like this is mind blowing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027517&forum_id=2#36439555)