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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:30 AM Author: Insane Quadroon Jap i agree with kanye's interpretation of the statutory language. i imagine this won't be the last time i do so. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737431) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:09 AM Author: fragrant gas station Stearns v. Zimmerman seems controlling. As long as you're in the office, with the papers, you're on time. he was clearly "in the office" by 5:00:00. you don't even have to reach the fourteen-second issue
the rule makes sense, otherwise some punkass clerk could just refuse to physically accept the papers and you'd be out of luck. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737588) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: fragrant gas station Beyond that, Curran argued that the nomination papers should count even if his campaign was late. He said West's team was hindered by state election officials, who locked their agency's door, and an "overly aggressive" media and Democratic operative.
I have zero doubt that there were people purposefully obstructing him from getting in (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737463) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: Hyperactive contagious alpha queen of the night They probably locked the door at exactly 5:00 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737486) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:42 AM Author: fragrant gas station I mean the media standing in front of him shoving cameras in his face, and/or the Democrat operative probably physically hindering him (press all elevator buttons etc) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737495) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: stirring idiotic field tattoo Makes sense. Not later than Monday means before Tuesday. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737464) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: Insane Quadroon Jap are you agreeing with kanye or the state here? i hope the former. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737469) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:43 AM Author: stirring idiotic field tattoo Kanye.
Before 5 is 4:59
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: Insane Quadroon Jap agreed. state is retarded. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737509) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:57 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor Maybe it's before 5:00:01. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737547) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:32 AM Author: razzmatazz legal warrant It was fucking retarded language to use in this case (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742827) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor What's the smallest unit applicable to 5 p.m.? Why minutes? Why not seconds? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737508) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:51 AM Author: stirring idiotic field tattoo I never pondered it but all time is a duration. 5pm is a minute long duration. Akin to 2020 is a year long or Monday is a day long.
5:00:00 is a milisecond long duration. If you filed at 5:00:00:09 that counts as 5:00:00.
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:57 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor Why isn't 5 p.m. (as opposed to 5:00) the full one hour period, [5, 6) in mathy notation? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737543) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:12 AM Author: stirring idiotic field tattoo hmm. hard to say there is a good reason for that other than conventional understanding and such an interpretation would lead to confusion and unintended consequences. the rule should be a reference to 5pm or noon means 5:00 or 12:00.
i guess under that theory 5pm could also mean 5:00.00000000 on the nose.
(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737601) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:31 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor Were I Kanye's lawyer on a hypothetical appeal, I'd probably comb through the statutes to show that the smallest resolution in non-technical use is the minute. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737709) |
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Date: August 17th, 2020 7:31 PM Author: autistic exhilarant kitty useless brakes Let's put it this way: if your class starts at 11 and you show up at 11:00:14, are you late? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40770557) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: dun center sound barrier I believe Kanye is correct. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737468) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:38 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor "The statutory provision does not distinguish between minutes and seconds"
Nor between minutes and hours. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737471) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: fragrant gas station sure it does, saying "5:00" provides significant figures to the minute. if it said "5:00:00" the state would win.
your argument is more like if it said "before the fifth hour post meridian" (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737485) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:46 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor "saying '5:00' provides"
Well, it apparently doesn't say that. So why are we even having this discussion? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737511) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: Insane Quadroon Jap after 5:00 means you are late at 5:01. poaster above used the example of no later than monday. the state's argument here would be that at the second it becomes monday - at midnight - the filing is due, and if it is submitted at any point after that on monday, it's late. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737529) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:01 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor "after 5:00"
Their own brief doesn't claim the law is stated that way. They say "5 p.m."
Monday is recognized as a whole day. "5 p.m." typically isn't recognized as a whole hour. Did it imply a whole minute? I could be convinced, but it's not obvious to me that it is. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737563) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:33 AM Author: razzmatazz legal warrant "not later than" (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742832) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: beady-eyed parlor That doesn't tell me whether the unit associated with 5 p.m. is an hour, a minute, a second or anything else. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744691) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: fragrant gas station OP is FAKE NEWS btw Kanye made the filing deadline. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737488) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:46 AM Author: Smoky macaca probably why that fat bitch was running to get in the door on that clip they keep showing on loop
probably why you shouldn't have fat white women be runners to the courthouse (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737512) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor The brief only spends a page on that argument and there are several better arguments. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737530) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 10:57 AM Author: Insane Quadroon Jap https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7032863-Kanye-West-Response.html
it is linked in the article, WHICH YOU DID NOT BOTHER TO READ (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737544) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 1:20 PM Author: Titillating Prole (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40738361) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 2:38 PM Author: Carmine Comical Bawdyhouse (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40738837) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 3:34 AM Author: Passionate orchestra pit Time law (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742929) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 1:15 PM Author: beady-eyed parlor Among the most scholarly interdisciplinary fields. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744704) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:02 AM Author: diverse pit faggotry I am SICK of this racist political suppression! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737568) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:05 AM Author: fragrant gas station why does "Joseph Santeler," some beta compliance lawyer for a bank, have standing to challenge this candidacy? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737573) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:14 AM Author: propecia mathematica (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737615) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:18 AM Author: Cocky Zombie-like Liquid Oxygen International Law Enforcement Agency 2+2=5 now so I don't know what to believe anymore... (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737637) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 11:22 AM Author: Violent mother (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40737667) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 12:34 PM Author: Walnut free-loading love of her life business firm Why are libs trying to keep a Black man off the ballot using white constructs like punctuality? Seems racist. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40738034) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 12:41 PM Author: lascivious partner water buffalo Yeezy can cite the Smithsonian infographic in his brief (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40738070) |
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Date: August 11th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: fragrant gas station not flame they actually argue this in the brief (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40738317) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:14 AM Author: Useless magenta cuckoldry box office Jfc
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Date: August 12th, 2020 6:32 AM Author: fragrant gas station par 5 of the brief:
People of color have long been marginalized in this country. In seeking to remove Kanye West from the ballot and silence the voices of those who signed to place him, the Complainants are continuing this marginalization simply because Mr. West’s views and perspectives on issues do not conform with theirs and those of the Party they represent. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40743126) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:30 AM Author: Puce charismatic patrolman (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742822) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: insecure judgmental dysfunction double fault (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744055) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:33 PM Author: ruddy boyish heaven fortuitous meteor This is like xo 2005 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744378) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:53 AM Author: cruel-hearted talented national national security agency LJL. Kanye is a low IQ black bro who can't even get on the ballot. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742870) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 3:34 AM Author: Passionate orchestra pit Sounds like he beat it by 46 seconds (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40742927) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:15 PM Author: Passionate orchestra pit (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744254) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 12:32 PM Author: propecia mathematica (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40744369) |
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Date: August 12th, 2020 2:15 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Swashbuckling Main People (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40745076) |
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Date: August 17th, 2020 7:23 PM Author: floppy bossy therapy library (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40770536) |
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Date: August 17th, 2020 4:55 PM Author: Zippy arousing house simpsons did it (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#40769860) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:26 AM Author: fragrant gas station The thieving frauds on the Wisconsin Supreme Court denied the appeal on the grounds that reprinting the ballots would "cause confusion and undue damage”
completely ignore the letter of the law and constitution. truly thugs in black robes
(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064048) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:29 AM Author: propecia mathematica (don't blame me, i voted for KANYE) wow. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064058) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:30 AM Author: Violent mother (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064068) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:45 AM Author: fragrant gas station (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064172) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:30 AM Author: Violent mother (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064067) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:32 AM Author: Orchid vigorous point toilet seat “ Conservative Justice Brian Hagedorn joined the court’s three liberals in the majority.”
Looks like we found Roberts’ eventual replacement. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064075) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: Violent mother (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064085) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: dun center sound barrier ... this wasnt on Kanye's case. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064078) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: Violent mother Lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064086) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:34 AM Author: Orchid vigorous point toilet seat We’ll have justice any day now! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064091) |
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Date: October 7th, 2020 9:45 AM Author: fragrant gas station yes but Kanye's case was filed after this one. If the one filed earlier was too late to reprint without "confusion and undue damage," a fortiari.... (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4601435&forum_id=2#41064175) |