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12 yrs as federal judge, still have to sound like you're interviewing for a job

But anyway, can you tell us a little bit about the type of p...
impertinent emerald school cafeteria
  02/08/23
Why do these ppl stop being judges
twisted prole resort
  02/08/23
Just give up easy chill lifetime-tenure job with guaranteed ...
swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond
  02/08/23
you make a second year associate salary as a judge and have ...
Canary exhilarant goyim halford
  02/08/23
No idea. If it’s a money thing just teach on the side....
Arousing trump supporter piazza
  02/08/23
mcconnell is a weird one. are reptile litigated in front of ...
multi-colored buff meetinghouse
  02/08/23
I think McConnell reasoned that getting passed over for SCOT...
Arousing trump supporter piazza
  02/08/23
judges can write as many faggy law rev articles as they want...
multi-colored buff meetinghouse
  02/08/23
Maybe he just likes being around those hot Stanford coeds
swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond
  02/08/23
Judges aren’t supposed to opine in a way that looks pr...
Arousing trump supporter piazza
  02/09/23
wife can't stop spending money
Orchid Stimulating Fanboi
  02/08/23
when their three kids simultaneously head off to tufts
garnet main people crotch
  02/08/23
can u imagine having one life, spending 80%+ of it doing thi...
adventurous home milk
  02/08/23
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Topaz Godawful Idiot Sanctuary
  02/08/23
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Brindle Trip Locus Potus
  02/08/23
yeah "imagine" hahah
Translucent Friendly Grandma
  02/09/23
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sapphire geriatric business firm gaping
  03/13/23
can u imagine being in a “profession” where this...
exciting bearded crackhouse mental disorder
  08/15/24
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Magical Background Story Step-uncle's House
  08/15/24
"or engaging with imposing counsel about discovery"...
multi-colored buff meetinghouse
  02/08/23
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Primrose menage partner
  02/08/23
Did he mean to say imposing?
red hominid
  02/08/23
read it like 5 times, and i think, yes.
multi-colored buff meetinghouse
  02/08/23
no way. he obviously meant to say 'opposing' but freudian s...
harsh olive jewess hospital
  03/13/23
“my home at Latham” *throws phone against the...
red hominid
  02/08/23
better than those who say, "so glad to be a part of thi...
garnet main people crotch
  02/08/23
saying the quiet part out loud
Canary exhilarant goyim halford
  02/08/23
he just popped up among my rinkedin recommended "friend...
garnet main people crotch
  02/08/23
Why would he give up AIII? He is not locked out of 7th Circu...
wine demanding sound barrier toaster
  02/08/23
he's a nearly 58-year-old white male. basically zero chance ...
Elite marvelous theater immigrant
  02/08/23
being a district judge can be as stressful as biglaw, and yo...
garnet main people crotch
  02/08/23
"So the goal of my practice is just to provide as much ...
wine demanding sound barrier toaster
  02/08/23
“Attorney Frederick repeatedly transgressed the bounds...
Elite marvelous theater immigrant
  02/08/23
https://cjfredericklaw.com/about also, soliciting "d...
Canary exhilarant goyim halford
  02/08/23
FITTER HAPPIER MORE PRODUCTIVE
swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond
  02/08/23
...
twisted prole resort
  02/09/23
https://abovethelaw.com/2023/02/former-federal-judge-reveals...
garnet main people crotch
  02/08/23
180 to divorce your wife shortly before making partner
copper contagious parlor windowlicker
  08/12/24
SDNY makes sense, insane COL and equally insane exit options...
Disgusting beady-eyed mad cow disease
  08/15/24
whats in sdny?
clear self-absorbed space factory reset button
  08/15/24
? every biglaw firm of consequence, all day every day.
Disgusting beady-eyed mad cow disease
  08/15/24
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-baldwin-757b8450 what di...
mustard hyperactive codepig
  02/09/23
VERY DELICIOUS
Brindle Trip Locus Potus
  02/09/23
At best salary maxing you are making 25% of biglaw money (th...
Purple Medicated Hall Half-breed
  02/09/23
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  03/13/23
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impertinent emerald school cafeteria
  08/12/24
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impertinent emerald school cafeteria
  08/15/24
he has sudden need/change of heart cus of divorce or jealous...
clear self-absorbed space factory reset button
  08/15/24
So I guess that's a long way of saying I want to resume my p...
know-it-all roast beef
  08/15/24


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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:30 PM
Author: impertinent emerald school cafeteria

But anyway, can you tell us a little bit about the type of practice you aspire to build for yourself at Latham & Watkins? I know you're joining a great team, and certainly they have areas that they're already known for, but are there things that you are trying to focus on, either issues or areas of law or type of litigation?

GF: That's a great question. So my home at Latham is in the complex commercial litigation practice, which is led by Sean Berkowitz, within the firm's litigation and trial department, and I'll also plan on working on intellectual-property cases, securities and derivatives, white-collar and investigations, to the extent there's a role for me to play. Particularly in Illinois or the Seventh Circuit, I could handle some appeals, and complex commercial litigation handles a wide array of cases, consumer fraud, business torts, contract cases, product liability, and the like. So the goal of my practice is just to provide as much value to Latham's clients as I can.

As we discussed, before I was a judge, I worked in two law firms, and I was the solicitor of Illinois. And in those roles I was a working litigator handling complex matters. At the law firms, they were high-exposure cases for our clients, and for the state of Illinois, they were significant public-law cases. For cases that were in the trial court, I set strategy, I conducted discovery, took depositions, drafted and argued motions, conducted hearings, and tried cases before courts and arbitrators. For cases on appeal, I drafted and edited briefs and argued appeals.

My plan is to continue, or I guess resume, that practice at Latham, rolling up my sleeves and handling complex, high-exposure cases. But I'll be able to do so with the perspective that I've gained from 12 years on the bench, both as a district judge, which was most of my work, and having sat by designation on the Ninth Circuit pretty regularly over the last few years and earlier on the Seventh, and I hope it will prove to be a valuable perspective.

I lost count at some point of the number of times as a judge when I was reading briefs or hearing argument or presiding over a hearing or at trial where I thought to myself, boy, I wish I knew that when I was a practicing lawyer. And what I mean by that is that as a lawyer, you make the most informed judgment you can about how a particular argument or strategy or tone or piece of evidence will hit the judge or the jury. But what can appear to be a good or smart or strategic move on paper or on the chalkboard when you draw it up in the conference room, it's not necessarily a good play in reality. And given the number of reps I had as a judge, particularly during my day job on the district court, I could bring to bear, hopefully, a perspective and exercise judgment that will bring value to our clients, whether I'm drafting or editing a brief or motion to dismiss or summary judgment motion or Daubert motion or engaging with imposing counsel about discovery or taking or defending a deposition or handling a hearing or a trial.

So I guess that's a long way of saying I want to resume my practice of actually being a working litigator handling cases. And another component of my practice, which complements the first and will draw on the perspective that I gained as a judge, is to be a strategic advisor on a particular case or a particular client. And that can entail something as simple as conducting a moot court in significant cases, whether for Latham teams or for clients who are using another law firm on a particular matter. It can entail reviewing strategy or litigation themes at the outset of a case or in the middle of a case or right before trial. Or it can entail taking a broader look at a client's portfolio of litigation or prospective litigation and thinking strategically in long term about how the client could mitigate its litigation exposure and better manage its litigation risks. So I know that's a lot, but that's what my plan is, at least at the moment, for the kind of practice that I hope to have at Latham.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905591)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:35 PM
Author: twisted prole resort

Why do these ppl stop being judges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905617)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:40 PM
Author: swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond

Just give up easy chill lifetime-tenure job with guaranteed pension

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905632)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:40 PM
Author: Canary exhilarant goyim halford

you make a second year associate salary as a judge and have to deal with a bunch of stupid discovery and criminal shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905638)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:44 PM
Author: Arousing trump supporter piazza

No idea. If it’s a money thing just teach on the side.

Luttig (CA4) left to become GC of Boeing, which would have been millions in total compensation. He was a very well regarded judge though and perennial SCOTUS candidate.

Michael McConnell (CA10) left to go back to academia, which was pretty weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905645)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 3:05 PM
Author: multi-colored buff meetinghouse

mcconnell is a weird one. are reptile litigated in front of gorsuch so perhaps he can give us some insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905745)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 3:57 PM
Author: Arousing trump supporter piazza

I think McConnell reasoned that getting passed over for SCOTUS by Bush + Obama getting elected in 2008 he didn’t want to spend the rest of his career on a middling flyover circuit court. He joined Hoover Institute too, so he could go back to writing faggy articles on con law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906027)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:10 PM
Author: multi-colored buff meetinghouse

judges can write as many faggy law rev articles as they want, see posner. i dont get why he'd give up his job to write law rev articles.

a judge has limits on making money outside of being a judge. but scholarship has no limits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906722)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 8:53 PM
Author: swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond

Maybe he just likes being around those hot Stanford coeds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907488)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 10:29 AM
Author: Arousing trump supporter piazza

Judges aren’t supposed to opine in a way that looks prejudicial. There are ethical limits, however real they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45909730)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:46 PM
Author: Orchid Stimulating Fanboi

wife can't stop spending money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905660)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: garnet main people crotch

when their three kids simultaneously head off to tufts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906069)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:39 PM
Author: adventurous home milk

can u imagine having one life, spending 80%+ of it doing this, then dying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905629)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 3:09 PM
Author: Topaz Godawful Idiot Sanctuary



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Date: February 8th, 2023 8:59 PM
Author: Brindle Trip Locus Potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907514)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 11:33 AM
Author: Translucent Friendly Grandma

yeah "imagine" hahah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45910096)



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Date: March 13th, 2023 2:03 PM
Author: sapphire geriatric business firm gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#46046287)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: exciting bearded crackhouse mental disorder

can u imagine being in a “profession” where this is a top 0.01% outcome?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969320)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Magical Background Story Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969463)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 2:51 PM
Author: multi-colored buff meetinghouse

"or engaging with imposing counsel about discovery"

from A3 judge to stupid discovery nastygram emails. sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905681)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 3:02 PM
Author: Primrose menage partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45905733)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: red hominid

Did he mean to say imposing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906068)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:10 PM
Author: multi-colored buff meetinghouse

read it like 5 times, and i think, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906726)



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Date: March 13th, 2023 2:04 PM
Author: harsh olive jewess hospital

no way.

he obviously meant to say 'opposing' but freudian slipped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#46046292)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 3:59 PM
Author: red hominid

“my home at Latham”

*throws phone against the wall*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906047)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: garnet main people crotch

better than those who say, "so glad to be a part of this team," as if trying to keep away from that stinky shit with a 10-foot pole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906077)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 8:32 PM
Author: Canary exhilarant goyim halford

saying the quiet part out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907356)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:12 PM
Author: garnet main people crotch

he just popped up among my rinkedin recommended "friends"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906736)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:19 PM
Author: wine demanding sound barrier toaster

Why would he give up AIII? He is not locked out of 7th Circuit. & is a young guy. To go work with assholes at Latham?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906774)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:43 PM
Author: Elite marvelous theater immigrant

he's a nearly 58-year-old white male. basically zero chance of biden elevating him to the seventh circuit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906869)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:44 PM
Author: garnet main people crotch

being a district judge can be as stressful as biglaw, and you're making only $200K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906872)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:20 PM
Author: wine demanding sound barrier toaster

"So the goal of my practice is just to provide as much value to Latham's clients as I can."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906779)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 6:41 PM
Author: Elite marvelous theater immigrant

“Attorney Frederick repeatedly transgressed the bounds of appropriate zealous advocacy in addressing the court,” Feinerman wrote. “It is not appropriate advocacy to speak of ‘get[ing] ripped a new butthole,’” for example.

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/federal-judge-says-lawyer-turned-in-the-poorest-performance-he-has-seen-on-12-years-on-bench

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45906864)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 8:34 PM
Author: Canary exhilarant goyim halford

https://cjfredericklaw.com/about

also, soliciting "donations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907370)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 8:54 PM
Author: swollen sienna ladyboy generalized bond

FITTER HAPPIER MORE PRODUCTIVE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907491)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 2:02 PM
Author: twisted prole resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45910826)



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Date: February 8th, 2023 10:02 PM
Author: garnet main people crotch

https://abovethelaw.com/2023/02/former-federal-judge-reveals-why-she-left-the-bench-for-biglaw/

I was at the point where I had children who were approaching college, with a husband becoming an ex-husband who was just getting his feet on the ground at a law firm so he had not yet started to earn Big Law money. I frankly did not believe I could continue to perform as a judge because of the money.

— Katherine Forrest, formerly of the Southern District of New York, in comments given to the National Law Journal, on why she decided leave the bench in favor of returning to Biglaw. She also noted that the high costs of living in New York City factored in to her decision to leave the judiciary. Forrest had served as a judge for seven years before she joined Cravath in 2018. She recently made a lateral partner move to Paul Weiss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45907875)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 12:48 PM
Author: copper contagious parlor windowlicker

180 to divorce your wife shortly before making partner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47956823)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 12:52 PM
Author: Disgusting beady-eyed mad cow disease

SDNY makes sense, insane COL and equally insane exit options. it's a wonder they keep anyone long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969317)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 1:00 PM
Author: clear self-absorbed space factory reset button

whats in sdny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969355)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 1:20 PM
Author: Disgusting beady-eyed mad cow disease

?

every biglaw firm of consequence, all day every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969449)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 9:02 AM
Author: mustard hyperactive codepig

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-baldwin-757b8450

what did sean baldwin do between 1998 and 2011? this is forrests husband.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45909407)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 1:54 PM
Author: Brindle Trip Locus Potus

VERY DELICIOUS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45910794)



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Date: February 9th, 2023 2:20 PM
Author: Purple Medicated Hall Half-breed

At best salary maxing you are making 25% of biglaw money (that’s teaching multiple classes at top law schools which even as a federal judge is not easy to get and biglaw to mean not the top firms), at worst less than 10%.

I am not sure why anyone wants to be a judge beyond a desire for public service and a job where getting fired is near impossible. If you get on the bench in your 30s and do 20-25 years (not sure where the pension kicks in) and then do some time in biglaw that can make sense if it’s even possible to double dip (I think it is). And while being a circuit judge seems interesting and fairly chill, grinding it out as a district court judge seems rough.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#45910906)



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Date: March 13th, 2023 1:55 PM
Author: impertinent emerald school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#46046247)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: impertinent emerald school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47956715)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 12:48 PM
Author: impertinent emerald school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969299)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 12:49 PM
Author: clear self-absorbed space factory reset button

he has sudden need/change of heart cus of divorce or jealousy of peer? and u guys make fun of women?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969304)



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Date: August 15th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: know-it-all roast beef

So I guess that's a long way of saying I want to resume my practice of actually being a working litigator handling cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5286847&forum_id=2#47969313)