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Home Gym Bros: Recs For Power Cage / What To Look For
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:22 PM Author: Amber Sandwich my main concern is safety -- i want to be able to bentsch alone, with the pins on. want something where it's easy to get the safety pins on and off and move them around.
want something stable (not chink garbage) but i'm not lifting heavy so i don't need anything super fancy. |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: angry hell pocket flask you don't need a power cage to bench alone unless it's 2 plates plus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826330) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:36 PM Author: Amber Sandwich one man's 2 plates is another man's bar, breh.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:41 AM Author: angry hell pocket flask you totally missed the point. less than 2 plates is safe to just throw on the floor or roll down your stomach. 2 plates and above is where failing the occasional rep could start to become a dangerous problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826729) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:49 AM Author: Amber Sandwich You missed the point that a weak twink can’t roll 215 off his stomach or throw them off the side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827038) |
Date: July 9th, 2024 10:38 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mildly autistic corner How is this any safer than a regular bench? Other than for immense weight? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826343) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: Amber Sandwich lol @ this low iq schtick. every man's immense weight is different. immense weight is relative.
everyone should be maxing out their lifts, and u could get stuck. |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:50 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mildly autistic corner How does this thing help you get unstuck? You need a smith machine or some fuckin dumbbells. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826381) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:57 PM Author: Amber Sandwich jfc ur so fucking dumb. do u know what safeties are? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826392) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:10 AM Author: razzle-dazzle mildly autistic corner (Weak guy with No Friends) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826984) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:54 AM Author: Amber Sandwich Solid substantive response. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827050) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:03 AM Author: Olive home Are you flaming or is this a serious question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827057) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:34 AM Author: Amber Sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827103) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:54 AM Author: angry hell pocket flask Guy "not lifting heavy" but such a training master-man that he knows "everyone should be maxing out their lifts"
at a certain age and strength level, maxing is not at all worth it due to injury risk. nobody *needs* to go below a heavy triple to get strong. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:34 AM Author: Amber Sandwich BEEP BEEP BEEP u could get stuck trying to bush yourself on a heavy triple
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:49 PM Author: Lascivious unholy kitty national security agency if “not lifting heavy” means under 300, this is a cheap option that’s pretty easy to assemble https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/fitness-gear-pro-olympic-bench-21fgeufgprlympcbnwgh/21fgeufgprlympcbnwgh |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:00 PM Author: Amber Sandwich interesting. BUT can u move the bench? if the bench is rigid, that's a dealbreaker. that means you can't OHP or use it to load the bar for DLs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826398) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:06 PM Author: Lascivious unholy kitty national security agency bench is rigid, never had a problem ohping on it but im 6’3 so standing astride the bench is nbd the holes are double-sided, some people apparently reverse the jhooks and squat using the reverse side, would probably need to put a plate on the bench to stabilize it for that |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:07 PM Author: Amber Sandwich so the bench cant be removed? dealbreaker. too bad
any other options? |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:12 PM Author: Amber Sandwich what about this?
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/fitness-gear-pro-half-rack-2024-23fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu/23fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:22 PM Author: Lascivious unholy kitty national security agency should be fine for your purpose, assuming they use the same materials as the one i posted. reviews are mixed but there aren’t many and it may just be idiots who can’t use a wrench (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826457) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:43 AM Author: Amber Sandwich guyz is this "fitness gear" a good brand? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827117) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 11:07 AM Author: Lascivious unholy kitty national security agency its the kirkland signature of dicks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827400) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:47 PM Author: Amber Sandwich or the dick of kirkland signature? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827857) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:07 PM Author: disrespectful forum Depends how much you can lift. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829153) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:59 PM Author: flesh cuck just buy Titan and be done with it, doesn't matter if it's chinese, it's stable enough for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826397) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:02 PM Author: Amber Sandwich are u oriental? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826404) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:30 PM Author: flesh cuck if you don't want advice, don't ask for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829005) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:24 PM Author: talented locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826465) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:06 PM Author: misunderstood hateful lay laser beams I have a power strength or something brand from aamzon and it’s great
If I got another one I would get a titan and make it yellow |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:08 PM Author: Amber Sandwich u use chink shit?? thought u like to powergoy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826420) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 11:38 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse I bought a Rep 6-post rack (PR-5000) and Ares cable attachment last year, and I love it. Space is at a premium in my basement, so the combined setup is perfect for me.
I didn’t think I would use the cable attachment that much, but I bought it anyways because I thought my wife would like it. I use it all the time, and it is as smooth as any cable system I have used. At the time I bought all of this, no one else was offering anything close to the PR-5000 + Ares cable system.
Carrying all of this shit to my basement was brutal on my knees and assembly was a huge pain in the ass. If this is your first time putting something like this together, plan on assembly taking two full days, at a minimum. Also, you really want a 1/2 inch battery powered impact driver, 36mm impact socket, a short extension and flex joint. You can use a large crescent wrench to hold the nuts in place while using the impact driver.
https://repfitness.com/products/pr-5000-power-rack-pre-selected
https://repfitness.com/products/ares-2-0-builder
There are enough improvements in the Ares v2 that it probably is worth the wait.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:52 AM Author: Amber Sandwich > a 1/2 inch battery powered impact driver, 36mm impact socket, a short extension and flex joint. You can use a large crescent wrench
I have no idea what any of his means let alone have them or know how to use them. Are there people who can build them for me? |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:50 AM Author: Copper insanely creepy son of senegal legal warrant Are you really this retarded, helpless, and effeminate? I thought you were an engineer? Anyway you can get a got off Thumbtack or Taskrabbit to do this for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827240) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:47 PM Author: Amber Sandwich yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827860) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:02 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse Rep offers assembly service via a third party. If it is less than $1k, you should probably go with third party assembly based on your retarded questions.
Don’t let any of the his dissuade you from the Rep rack and Ares attachment. It is awesome.
To answer your questions, this is my impact:
Milwaukee and Dewalt make comparable drivers. The main elements to look for are brushless, variable speed, pro quality, and 1/2 inch size. Technically you are looking for an impact wrench, not driver. Keep that in mind when shopping.
With that figured out, I assume you can navigate the impact socket, extension, and flex joint. Sunscreen was a great value for impact sockets, but they have crept up in price. I don’t know if there is a better deal out there at present.
The impact wrench I linked to above can remove lug nuts from cars (it may struggle with legit truck wheels). If there is any chance you will use it to work on your car, get the Sunex metric impact socket set. https://www.amazon.com/Sunex-2569-Master-Impact-43Piece/dp/B00MPQ88RY/
That set doesn’t include a 36mm socket. So you will need to buy both the socket and set separately.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: Amber Sandwich tyft. this is all way above my head. hiring a goy it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827902) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:08 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse https://repfitness.com/pages/assembly-services (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827912) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:57 PM Author: Amber Sandwich it's $679 for the rack + ares. wtf??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828672) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:02 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse That’s actually a great deal given how long it took me to put it together. If I didn’t care about knowing how it worked, I wouldn’t think twice about paying that to have someone else put it together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829139) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: Amber Sandwich nobody's actually used the ares 2 bc it's not out yet, right? ppl online are bitching about the ares 1 having shitty features that are improved in the 2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828341) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:18 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse Ares v2 isn’t available via retail but they have a some demo units out. I posted a link to a quick review of the v2 at an industry show.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:00 PM Author: Amber Sandwich is there a pullup bar at the top of the 5000? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828690) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:38 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse Yeah, of course, but you said you are limited to 85in height elsewhere, which likely mean an 80in rack (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829271) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:13 AM Author: Carmine Razzle Meetinghouse Just get rogue, their power racks are so overbuilt you'll never be worried (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47826753) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:51 AM Author: Olive home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827043) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:40 AM Author: Amber Sandwich they have 100 models on their website. which is the one i should be getting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827110) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:46 PM Author: Carmine Razzle Meetinghouse i have this, good if your space is limited otherwise you can get thhe full, but i never have problems with squats etc in this smaller one
https://www.roguefitness.com/rm-3-bolt-together-monster-rack-2-0 |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:51 AM Author: Olive home Rogue or EliteFTS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827044) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:40 AM Author: Amber Sandwich each of these has 100 models. which one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827111) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:43 AM Author: Olive home What's your budget, how long have you been training, and what's your heaviest squat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827120) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:49 AM Author: Amber Sandwich lol "budget" is such a goy question. how could i have a budget if i dont know what they cost? i'm willing to spend whatever is necessary to get a good product that fits my purposes, but i don't want to overpay for shit i don't need.
20 years.
i don't squat more than 1 plate. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:08 AM Author: Olive home https://www.roguefitness.com/rml-3-rogue-monster-lite-r-3
Very nice, more than adequate for anything you will ever do |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:13 AM Author: Amber Sandwich ty. whats the diff between this and a half-rack like:
https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-hr-2-half-rack |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:17 AM Author: Razzmatazz Cream Cruise Ship Pozpig The half rack is half the size.
Are you jewish? |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:19 AM Author: Amber Sandwich poor rc? what's the advantages and disadvantages of half and full (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827169) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:20 AM Author: Razzmatazz Cream Cruise Ship Pozpig "whats the diff between this and a half-rack"
One is half the size.
You avoided answering so I'll ask again - are you jewish? |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:28 AM Author: Amber Sandwich BEEP BEEP BEEP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827185) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:30 AM Author: Razzmatazz Cream Cruise Ship Pozpig Look I'll break it down for you very slowly:
Can you fit a full sized rack into your gym space, or can you only fit a half sized one? That's the question you have tried and failed to answer twice now. I don't think this weightlifting thing is for you, maybe take up a simpler hobby - like macaroni art or finger painting. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:40 AM Author: Amber Sandwich u really are esl. jfc u seem really dumb with your black and white shit. let me try to break this down for you. i can fit a larger one but the space isnt so big so if i can get a smaller rack, it'd preferred. therefore, i want to know what the advantages and disadvantages of a larger vs a smaller one are. was this that difficult for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827213) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:58 AM Author: Razzmatazz Cream Cruise Ship Pozpig The advantage of the smaller one is that it's smaller, leaving you with more room in your gym for gay sex.
The bigger one is bigger so you have more room inside the cage for doing exercises.
That's all there is to it, kike. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:46 PM Author: Amber Sandwich again, you're either not a bright guy or you're purposefully not being helpful. did it occur to you that someone might want to know what exercises inside the cage would require more room and whether a half-rack would be sufficient because normal exercises people do inside a cage can be done in less space? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827848) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 12:49 PM Author: Olive home One of them is half the size. Half racks are not as convenient to use, but if you have a consistent bar path they're not a problem. They're typically a solution for space restrictions. I recommend a full rack if you have the space. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827660) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:04 PM Author: Amber Sandwich what exercises would be annoying in a half rack? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827904) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:20 PM Author: Olive home Squat, if you're a taller dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828760) |
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Date: July 11th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Carmine Razzle Meetinghouse I have a half rack and never have any problems with squat fyi, 6'1" here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47830583) |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: Olive home This is because you probably have a consistent bar path the way that one ought.
The space is nice when you have a bunch of cables and shit on or in the rack, but a half rack shouldn't pose any real problem for somebody who knows how to squat correctly. I'm just not convinced that the guy who has been "lifting all his life" and squats one plate has anything resembling refined motor patterns. |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: Carmine Razzle Meetinghouse Yeah you're probably right about that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47846818) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:47 AM Author: Amber Sandwich btw guyz we only have an 8 foot ceiling. a lot of these racks are 90"+. do we need a shorter one? it's gonna make it impossible to do pullups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827126) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 1:09 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse A low basement ceiling is precisely why i use the Rep Ares attachment so much. It has an added bonus of being a good functional trainer.
Review of the Ares v1
https://youtu.be/TeeYYQpl8aE?si=ZSfswE4p-166i4Sv
Comparison of Rogue and Ares v2 https://youtu.be/Mc79mHfR7rc?si=jrVpCS9siIOpmNi9 |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:20 AM Author: Amber Sandwich actually looking into titans more. are they garbage or fine for my purposes? this review makes it seem fine
https://www.garagegymreviews.com/equipment/titan-t-3-series-power-rack
https://youtu.be/zb2eETmg9W4 |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:47 AM Author: misunderstood hateful lay laser beams They are highly regarded and known on Reddit as a good cheaper alternative to rogue and i think can take rogue attachments
Fwiw when I get another house I intend to upgrade to a titan rack |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: cocky spot There are NO good alternatives to Ohio built/designed products!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827292) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:38 AM Author: Amber Sandwich also will a rack be fine if i dont bolt it down? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827208) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:19 AM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown Do you plan on doing flips and shit on it? If not, then it will be secure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827295) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: Excitant half-breed Yes. I only ran into issues with heavy bands - I think I just shoved a 2x4 between the top support & the ceiling.
Make sure you have a thick rubber mat, though. Concrete breaks easier than one may think. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:51 PM Author: Amber Sandwich ty we got .75" horse stall mats from tractor supply co (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828847) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:48 PM Author: Olive home Yes lol. That becomes an issue when you're racking 400+. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828839) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:14 AM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown KANG POWERCAGE off of Amazon.
Not that difficult to put together if you follow the YouTube video.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1D6JR2Q?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:31 PM Author: Amber Sandwich ty. can anyone else vouch for this? is it junk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827960) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:32 PM Author: Amber Sandwich lol @ this esl amazon chink shit:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71g40Oru04L._AC_SX679_.jpg |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 2:35 PM Author: Amber Sandwich "3 reasons-Why you should pick cage with Lat&low row system NOT Fuction trianer?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47827966) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:32 PM Author: Excitant half-breed Stick with name brand or commercial unless you're a poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828793) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:35 PM Author: Olive home Not worth finding out, it may be serviceable but not nearly as quality, and you run the risk of it being utter chink trash.
A 400lb capacity is fucking nothing, what that really tells you is they used reforged dog shit scrap metal or some garbage alloy to make it, and it's probably poorly designed and machined too. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:52 PM Author: Amber Sandwich this one is 1500 lb capacity:
https://www.amazon.com/ER-KANG-1500LBS-Crossover-Multi-Function/dp/B0CL1RY5LH/ |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:56 PM Author: Olive home Yeah, for storage, but the j-hooks on the other one were rated at a 400 lb capacity which is fucking terrible. That means that you can't use more than 400 lb on a barbell at any one time, which is very little, indicating garbage construction.
The one you linked doesn't specify how much the j-hooks are rated for, but given that they're from the same company and it looks like chink shit construction, I would avoid that like the fucking plague. I can tell you just from looking at the pulley setup that it is going to be way less pleasantly usable than either of the ones below from rap or rogue |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:03 PM Author: Amber Sandwich i see. the more expensive one doesnt say what the j-hooks are rated for. i'm not putting more than 225 on a barbell ever and that's just for DLs.
this shit is $700 for cage + pully system. a rep/rogue system is gonna be 3500+. i hear what you're saying that it's chink shit. question is whether it's usable chink shit that's fine for my twink purposes. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:08 PM Author: Olive home I think the pulley system will be utter trash. Even in the marketing pictures it looks janky and shitty. It may very well be serviceable for what you want, but it's not something I would ever buy. I would spend more on the rogue rack I linked before I would buy the chink rack with the pulleys.
I also don't know how much money you have to throw around, but if you have enough that you would be willing to just replace the chink one with the nice one if you were dissatisfied, then may as well do that. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:09 PM Author: Amber Sandwich the chink one is amazon so it's returnable. it'd just be a waste to have built the whole thing... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828919) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:23 PM Author: Excitant half-breed Gym equipment isn't cheap, but will last a lifetime. Don't cheap out by buying crap from Amazon or building one out of 2x4s & nails from Home Depot.
A real rack is going to cost four figures. The only question is the magnitude of that first digit.
If you want cables, expect another $1-2k in addition to the cost of the rack. Weight stacks will add another $1k.
If you're cost-conscious, look for used stuff - but it may take a long time for real equipment to show up on the secondary market. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:26 PM Author: Amber Sandwich i looked a used racks but there's no way to transport that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828991) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:33 PM Author: Excitant half-breed Rent a truck, get a friend or two, drop off in your driveway, disassemble, transport inside, reassemble.
It's a lot of work/planning. But much like large wood furniture, you can get it for a fraction of the cost if you're willing to put in the time & effort. (Most people aren't, so that's the reason resale value is so low even if it's barely used.) |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:19 PM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown Ignore this dumbshit.
A fucking home gym is not supposed to be $10,000+
You are not training for Mr. Universe. You are trying to build muscle to offset a Dadbod.
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:34 PM Author: Amber Sandwich yep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47834800) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: sticky lettuce lodge amazing that in a thread about power racks this guy can't avoid being an odious kike
no palestinian, etc |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 3:46 PM Author: Amber Sandwich so what do yall think of racks with a weight stack? this ares 2.0 idea seems like a good one. any reason NOT to get this sort of system, and do it separately? something w a weight stack for rows and lat pulldowns would be useful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828178) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 4:48 PM Author: cocky spot Yes you should get a plate or weight stack loaded cable accessory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828398) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:01 PM Author: Amber Sandwich besides the REP ares, what are the other options for stack loaded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828445) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:22 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse Looks like Rogue offers the only alternative to the Ares at present, which wasn’t available when I bought my rack.
I think I posted a link above to a great comparison of the two systems.
This is the comparison:
https://youtu.be/Mc79mHfR7rc?si=jrVpCS9siIOpmNi9 |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: Amber Sandwich why does nobody else make this shit? is it new technology? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828539) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:26 PM Author: cocky spot I've only ever heard of it in the past two years or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828551) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 5:56 PM Author: Amber Sandwich any reason to get a cage separate from a cable pully system? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828666) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: cocky spot Off the top of my head I can't think of one. Maybe ergonomics. There are some use cases for having a separate pulley for each hand but this can be done with a cage additive as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828707) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:09 PM Author: Amber Sandwich what do you think of the kang thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828726) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:40 PM Author: cocky spot I would not rely on it, but this is my main interest so my budget and standards might be unique (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828818) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: Olive home Pretty good chance it is chink shit, 100% chance it is not going to be as well built or convenient to use as rogue, elite FTS, or rep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828829) |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:26 PM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown 100% you don't know WTF you're talking about.
It's a fucking home gym, it just needs to be safe enough that he doesn't kill himself doing a bench press.
You clearly think he's training for the 2028 summer olympics or some shit. |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown The Kang cage is safe.
I've had it for 6 months and have not had any problems.
Ignore these faggots that are trying to get you to buy a $10k setup. |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:35 PM Author: Amber Sandwich the holes are 4" apart on the kang. that means benching with safeties is impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47834806) |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:43 PM Author: Chest-beating Onyx Clown That makes absolutely no sense.
Look at the fucking pictures and you see safeties are inserted properly. |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 11:06 PM Author: Amber Sandwich what im saying is with safeties that are 4" apart, ur not gonna be able to safely use them and also bring the bar down to your chest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47840065) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:35 PM Author: Olive home Yeah, depending on where you situate your rack, it can be kind of cramped to use one or the other. It can also be nice not to have to completely break down whatever you have set up in the rack in order to use the cable machine. And if your wife would use it at the same time, it can be nice having separate things.
It's not a big deal either way.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:37 PM Author: Olive home They're nice. I would get the rogue option because I like their cable routing much much better than Rep's. The single point of attachment can be very nice. I would also get the double stack with the additional weight from rogue, and add the aluminum pulleys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828811) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:54 PM Author: Amber Sandwich what do you think of pulleys with a weight stack vs plates you add on? the weight stack seems to be much less common (just rep and rogue). many more options for plates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828856) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:02 PM Author: Olive home Plate loaded ones are solid as a cheaper option. The reason that there are not very many available full cable stack combinations for the rack/pulley combo is because they are harder to design/engineer, and they are a much nicer, higher budget option.
To be perfectly clear, A quality plate stack option is going to be much nicer and better than one that is exclusively plate loaded. The issue occurs if you are stuck with a plate stack that is not sufficient for your needs. That's why I would get the max weight option if that's the route you choose (and to be clear, I think it's the best one; only reason not to is money or weird space requirements). |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:05 PM Author: Amber Sandwich gotcha.
i'm not gonna ever max out a plate stack.
one advantage of a plate loading one is that it's lighter and easy to move the entire rack, right? seems like it'd be impossible to every move the rack if it's plate stack.
also its easier to move weights up and down with a pin versus having to put plates on. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:11 PM Author: Olive home Yeah, loading and unloading a plate loaded machine gets annoying if you use it for different muscle groups a lot.
And yes, plate loaded is easier to move the rack as a whole. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:51 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse I have no idea why Rep goes to the trouble of providing that janky adapter for booking up two cables. I have no problem whatsoever hooking both cables to smaller devices using two carabiners. I suspect they do it because they are concerned about people injuring themselves.
I love my setup, but if you can get the rogue for close to the same price as Rep’s offering, I would probably go with Rogue based on resale and some happy merchant vibes I’ve picked up from Rep. |
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Date: July 11th, 2024 6:48 AM Author: Olive home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47830214) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:23 PM Author: Excitant half-breed I've had an Elite FTS rack since 2003 and love it. I got the 2" frame since it was shorter & fit in my parents' basement (3" was a bit too tall), and opted for one with 1" spacing for bench with holes at top & bottom for bands. A decent rack will last a lifetime, and you don't lift heavy enough for it to really matter what you get. All the options are geared towards powerlifting and specialty stuff you won't use. Just find something basic from a quality brand you like.
Rogue's a decent brand, but I only have a reverse hyper from them. Their racks look comparable to Elite FTS, though.
If you want anything with cables, do not get home gym - go commercial only. I went with a Powerbody plate-loaded crossover, but I'm able to accommodate a 100" ceiling clearance and 12' width in my current house. Plate-loaded will save space & cost if you already have plates, and they're much easier to move.
Keep in mind how the equipment's shipped (i.e., the physical size of the parts), as you need to be able to physically move the pieces from the driveway to your basement. Not everything is made for transporting up & down stairs in a house. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:42 PM Author: cocky spot You have a reverse hyper? Do you have any other less-common home gym contraptions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828825) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:50 PM Author: Excitant half-breed The RH is great for back/ham health. I didn't get one until I was in my mid-30s and use it more for active recovery & GPP than for a primary exercise.
I have bands, boards, chains, an Elite FTS box (& pad for high box), yolk bar, & fat bar. I'm pretty basic and my background is PLing, so I've never used a ton of different/fancy equipment. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:52 PM Author: Olive home 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47828850) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:43 PM Author: Olive home Good poast. HIGHLY recommend one with bench hole spacing (sometimes called Westside holes) -- enormous quality of life difference especially if you're benching without somebody to give you a lift off.
Rogue has more entry level options than elite FTS, and for what OP is looking at, I think they make better choices. If he were doing more weight, I'd rec one of elite FTS' entry models.
For cables, I think plate loaded is great, and I don't think there's much unique value in crossovers so I think OP can save space.
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:55 PM Author: Excitant half-breed A nice cable system is more useful as an old. I never would've considered it in my 20s or early 30s.
I've always felt bands are hard on my joints (even when I was younger), so simple stuff like face pulls and pushdowns are much "easier" with cables for me nowadays. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 6:58 PM Author: Olive home I agree completely that cables are great. I use them for a lot of back work, all of my non-dip tricep work, and I really like heavy cable curls because with proper body positioning, you maintain constant tension and a fairly consistent resistance curve.
I just meant that he may not need something super wide, as one would get with a commercial cable crossover machine, and instead could probably do very well with one from rogue that is combined with the cage. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:15 PM Author: Excitant half-breed Oh, yeah - completely agree.
We just need to convince him to not buy garbage cable systems. Maybe they've improved in recent years, but I've had such bad experience with home-quality cables that I will only buy commercial quality.
I don't personally like extra stuff in my racks, but OP seems like a combo rack/cable system might work for him.
Then again, most stuff like this is never actually used by the buyer, but hey, maybe he'll be an exception. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:40 PM Author: Amber Sandwich i've worked out for many years in gyms, and use a cage, as well as the lat pulldown stack, the horizontal row stack, dip bars, pullup bars, and limited other cable stuff. it'd be nice to have it all in one to take up less space. trust me, i'll use the (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829036) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:55 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse The Rep cable attachment really is spectacular. Absolutely buttery smooth.
If someone has unlimited space, sure go with multiple pieces of equipment, but that would be very low on my list of priorities after using the Ares for a couple months.
EDIT: cables are especially great for those of us with lower ceilings, which OP mentioned elsewhere is an issue. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:09 PM Author: disrespectful forum since it was shorter & fit in my parents' basement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829162) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 7:57 PM Author: Amber Sandwich guyz is titan any good, or chink garbage still? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829123) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:34 PM Author: Excitant half-breed I have a squat suit from Titan, but I'm pretty sure that's a different company.
This other Titan stuff looks pretty basic, which is all you need. Nothing's made in the US nowadays (the few things that are tend to not be high quality), so don't worry about that. Brand & reputation are more important... and I just don't know this Titan brand myself.
Looking at their site: Basic Rack: $600 Plate Attachment: $400 Pins: $100ish Hooks: $100ish Lat Attachment: $400
Add in shipping and you're around $2k. That's probably half of the type of rack I'd recommend, but should suffice for your needs.
You'll still need a bench. Adjustables there look to be $300-500 (don't get a curvy support beam bench). |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: Carmine Razzle Meetinghouse Almost all the rogue stuff except plates is made in USA and great quality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47846753) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:18 PM Author: Amber Sandwich this low-end REP one is $379. is this better than the chink shit? maybe i should buy this and then get a separate cable system? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829198) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:33 PM Author: Amber Sandwich this review makes it sound really good: https://www.garagegymreviews.com/rep-pr-1100-review (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829254) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:40 PM Author: Excitant half-breed It looks really flimsy to me. I wouldn't want to use it.
The Wal-Mart price-level stuff isn't going to hold up well.
It's kind of like you're looking to buy a new car for under $10k -- it's just not realistic, even if there's something out there at that price point. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 8:44 PM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse Is space at a premium?
If yes, a combined system from Rogue or Rep is clearly the correct answer.
If no, it depends on what is important to you. You claim to have experience lifting. If that’s the case, watch some reviews, pay attention to how it is used and how that relates to what it important to you, and make a decision. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: Amber Sandwich we have space for a separate cable system and rack. i did watch reviews and it seems the cheap rep one would fit out needs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829363) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:24 PM Author: Excitant half-breed How do you dump the weight?
I also got in right at the beginning of covid, when everyone was hurting for sales but before the lockdown/WFH stuff kicked off. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:31 PM Author: Maize autistic stain casino You can buy spotter arms. I don’t have them because they’re unnecessary. Shouldn’t be failing on reps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829374) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:26 PM Author: Amber Sandwich poor rc? i need safeties for benching etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829365) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 9:30 PM Author: Maize autistic stain casino It appears so, since you can’t read that you can add spotter arms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829371) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:28 PM Author: Amber Sandwich the rep pr-1100 has 3" spacing between the holes. how annoying is that going to be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47829486) |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:29 PM Author: Olive home Annoying for bench, not really annoying for squat or OHP
There's a reason I linked you the one that I did. It has Westside hole spacing for bench. |
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Date: July 10th, 2024 10:35 PM Author: Amber Sandwich annoying for the safeties when benching, right? i assume for the j-hooks it doesnt matter so much if they're a little low.
is it safe to bench outside the cage with the j-hooks on the outside, and using the safety arms -- rather than the safety pins -- as safeties?
if so, then u have two options if the height isnt perfect, right? |
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Date: July 11th, 2024 12:41 AM Author: bull headed hyperventilating useless brakes bawdyhouse I don’t get your preoccupation with this topic. Regardless of the precautions you take, you shouldn’t be maxing out big numbers in a single rep without someone assisting. Otherwise, what is preventing you from dumping the weight?
To answer your question, if you use arms off the front, you need to anchor the rack to the floor if it doesn’t have a cable system with its own weight. If you install a cable system with its own stack(s) of weight, you can use arms without anchoring your rack.
Are your questions flame?
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Date: July 11th, 2024 6:46 AM Author: Olive home For both. Especially without a spotter for liftoff, it's helpful to have your unrack be as short as possible without having to come out of your arch.
Yes.
The point of Westside holes is so the height can be close to perfect. And changing whether you bench on the inside or outside of the cage changes nothing about the height. I don't get your question. |
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Date: July 11th, 2024 8:51 AM Author: Amber Sandwich i get making the liftoff as easy as possible. but for the safety protecting your neck, i'm more concerned.
what i'm saying is the inside safeties and the outside spotter arms might not be at the exact same height even if using the the same pins. so you might be able to have a more perfect fit using one or the other
westside holes are 1". standard non-westside seems to be 2". this REP one is 3". some of the chink ones online are almost 4" (probably something in cm)
all benches are different heights right? |
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Date: July 11th, 2024 9:01 AM Author: Olive home They may differ by a little bit but they're all pretty close to the same (17"). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5552983&forum_id=2#47830373) |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 2:08 PM Author: Amber Sandwich wtf
DISTANCE BETWEEN HOLES 3.94" 3.86" 3.94"
https://www.major-lutie.com/pages/compare-power-racks |
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