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I don't think anyone reasonable actually supports Hamas

And "Palestinians deserve better treatment" is not...
Massive jade persian elastic band
  10/01/24
cr on both counts
confused hospital
  10/01/24
I agree that reasonable people likely do no support hamas. ...
Brindle Becky
  10/01/24
Problematic for both anti and pro Hamas Palestinians For th...
Massive jade persian elastic band
  10/01/24
Against, I think it's a bit deeper. It's a form of self-betr...
Brindle Becky
  10/01/24
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confused hospital
  10/01/24
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Massive jade persian elastic band
  10/01/24
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confused hospital
  10/01/24
do we really have to care what desert sand people do half a ...
chartreuse kitty twinkling uncleanness
  10/01/24


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Date: October 1st, 2024 10:50 AM
Author: Massive jade persian elastic band

And "Palestinians deserve better treatment" is not particularly controversial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149443)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 10:51 AM
Author: confused hospital

cr on both counts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149444)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 10:55 AM
Author: Brindle Becky

I agree that reasonable people likely do no support hamas.

The problem comes when Palestinians who have been victimized and dehumanized by Israel are forced to condemn Hamas as a precondition to having a discussion about Israel - Palestinian relations.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149453)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Massive jade persian elastic band

Problematic for both anti and pro Hamas Palestinians

For the pro side, Hamas is basically their only means of recourse against Israeli abuse e.g. the forcible resettling of disputed territories

Against, you're speaking out against the largest gang in town and will likely be seen as a traitor to your tribe, even if your reasons are good and just

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149458)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 11:01 AM
Author: Brindle Becky

Against, I think it's a bit deeper. It's a form of self-betrayal and self-humiliation to be forced to condemn Hamas in light of Israeli treatment of Palestinians.

It's also just an unfair starting point for a debate. Why should a Palestinian be forced to condemn Hamas when Israelis, Jews, Israel supporters are never forced to condemn Israel's far worse actions? No one says, you must denounce zionism in order to discuss this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149465)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: confused hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149500)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: Massive jade persian elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149545)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 11:18 AM
Author: confused hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149497)



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Date: October 1st, 2024 11:02 AM
Author: chartreuse kitty twinkling uncleanness

do we really have to care what desert sand people do half a world away?

pull out from everything, fuck it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5604326&forum_id=2#48149467)