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ITT: We predict what TSLA will be trading at in 2030.

To be fair, Prediction prices should assume no stock spli...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Reverse-splits?
Citrine irradiated institution death wish
  03/10/25
To be fair, Please just give a prediction or else don't p...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
It's going to $0. No survivors.
Citrine irradiated institution death wish
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 5:36 PM Author: Emoti...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
See you in 2030, FAGGOT.
Citrine irradiated institution death wish
  03/10/25
...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
...
charcoal community account
  03/10/25
EPAH has antitrust insider info. Watchout trumpos
sexy out-of-control mad-dog skullcap
  03/10/25
He fucked Pelosi iirc
Glittery sickened indirect expression
  03/10/25
Must be pretty high T TQBH
sexy out-of-control mad-dog skullcap
  03/10/25
tp
Self-absorbed dopamine
  03/11/25
$625
charcoal community account
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: kendr...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
note that i have no idea what else tesla is working on busin...
charcoal community account
  03/10/25
...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
$1,001 😏
Bisexual ladyboy
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 5:39 PM Author: flw t...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
1000
lilac nofapping station
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 5:40 PM Author: Gay G...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Don't know a dollar amount, but I think the 5-year growth fr...
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
To be fair, I don't see any number here, sorry you lose d...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
You're the dumb one if you're trading based on a target numb...
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
To be fair, *farts cum*
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Didn't know you were capable of making a non-sarcastic post....
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
To be fair, Hey remember like 10 minutes ago when you got...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Who told you that? Itay Michaeli? http://xoxohth.com/thre...
Bipolar Impressive Police Squad
  03/10/25
To be fair, Sorry you literally didn't know what the fuck...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Thingsthatdidnthappen.txt
Bipolar Impressive Police Squad
  03/10/25
To be fair, "Haha yeah haha"
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
(TBF's favorite stock analyst (((Itay Michaeli))) after seei...
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
To be fair, Whoa, suddenly it turns out you were right ab...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Copy and paste the post where I "got TSLA stock numbers...
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
To be fair, Literally that entire retarded subthread wast...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
I hate Musk but it is kind of remarkable how faggoty and ful...
up-to-no-good piazza
  03/10/25
I'll do you a favor and link my actual post, Ari. I'll wait ...
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
[duplicate post]
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
No way Elon will step down. He is Jerry Jones or Al Davis no...
Odious dun location
  03/10/25
He is Joe Paterno
Provocative menage
  03/10/25
Joe Pa is 180 and in Heaven.
Odious dun location
  03/10/25
shocking: a pumo refuses to be pinned down on any solid answ...
Laughsome Well-lubricated Ape
  03/11/25
To be fair, LJL "DID U KNOW THAT 10 MILLION RUSSI...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/15/25
$350.
ebony contagious windowlicker
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 6:44 PM Author: Heart...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
If Muskrat stays CEO: sub $100 If he leaves: ~ $150
Passionate mewling faggot firefighter property
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: warlo...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
Oh, I didn't realize we could do conditions. If Elon stay...
ebony contagious windowlicker
  03/10/25
a million
boyish legend
  03/10/25
To be fair, Date: March 10th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: UN pe...
Free-loading chapel candlestick maker
  03/10/25
https://x.com/mrfundman/status/1899173338188317183?s=46
self-centered stage idea he suggested
  03/10/25
So you are betting on Elon reversing his dementia or whateve...
Odious dun location
  03/10/25
He just needs to cool it with the ketamine and he’ll b...
aromatic hall stain
  03/10/25
Does ketamine make people poast boomer memes and wear graphi...
Odious dun location
  03/10/25
He’s probably doing it all the time. He admitted every...
aromatic hall stain
  03/10/25
Are you backing off your $4-5 Trillion company prediction al...
self-centered stage idea he suggested
  03/10/25
$0
mustard rough-skinned hell
  03/10/25
$5,000 pre split
Greedy metal base
  03/10/25
either: (a) what ford is trading for in 2030, or (b) nothing...
flesh stock car
  03/10/25
$400 i would not be surprised if it was $50 or $50000 but...
Laughsome Well-lubricated Ape
  03/11/25
lol at any of us being alive to bump this in 2030
self-centered stage idea he suggested
  03/15/25
0
indigo place of business corner
  03/12/25
138.47
Glittery sickened indirect expression
  03/15/25


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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Prediction prices should assume no stock splits between now and then.

I'll go first: $1500+ (this is extremely conservative FYI).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734420)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Citrine irradiated institution death wish

Reverse-splits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734424)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Please just give a prediction or else don't participate in this thread. TYIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734433)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: Citrine irradiated institution death wish

It's going to $0. No survivors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734439)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:36 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 5:36 PM

Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

It's going to $0. No survivors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734444)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Citrine irradiated institution death wish

See you in 2030, FAGGOT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734448)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734449)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: charcoal community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734453)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: sexy out-of-control mad-dog skullcap

EPAH has antitrust insider info. Watchout trumpos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734662)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: Glittery sickened indirect expression

He fucked Pelosi iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734741)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: sexy out-of-control mad-dog skullcap

Must be pretty high T TQBH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734751)



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Date: March 11th, 2025 1:53 AM
Author: Self-absorbed dopamine

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48735974)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: charcoal community account

$625

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734455)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 5:38 PM

Author: kendrick lamar((zurich is stained))

$625

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734458)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: charcoal community account

note that i have no idea what else tesla is working on business-wise aside from the cars, and this is a total guess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734472)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734482)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Bisexual ladyboy

$1,001 😏

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734460)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 5:39 PM

Author: flw toady

$1,001 😏

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734476)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: lilac nofapping station

1000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734469)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 5:41 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 5:40 PM

Author: Gay Grandpa

1000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734469)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734480)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Provocative menage

Don't know a dollar amount, but I think the 5-year growth from Jan 1, 2025 to Jan 1, 2030 will be below the S&P unless Musk steps down. Exact dollar amount depends on inflation and general GDP growth in the US and worldwide between now and then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734658)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:57 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

I don't see any number here, sorry you lose dumb Jewish Pumo faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734704)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Provocative menage

You're the dumb one if you're trading based on a target number instead of performance relative to alternative investments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734716)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

*farts cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734720)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Provocative menage

Didn't know you were capable of making a non-sarcastic post. Congrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734725)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Hey remember like 10 minutes ago when you got absolutely BLOWN THE FUCK OUT on some real retard shit about TSLA in this other thread?

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5691958&forum_id=2#48734676

lol good times bro, good times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734736)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: Bipolar Impressive Police Squad

Who told you that? Itay Michaeli?

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5690705&mc=43&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734744)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Sorry you literally didn't know what the fuck you were talking about and got blown out on the actual cold hard publicly-available numbers of TSLA's objective financial performance from 2020 - 2025. But feel free to correct me on those numbers if you think I'm wrong about them now that you've done a little Googling. (Narrator: ")

IDK, maybe next time you should spend 30 seconds looking up the chart real quick before you come into threads like this and start smugly "schooling" the rest of us on "what's what" when it comes to TSLA's historical price performance?

Just a thought. ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734745)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Bipolar Impressive Police Squad

Thingsthatdidnthappen.txt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734757)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

"Haha yeah haha"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734761)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: Provocative menage

(TBF's favorite stock analyst (((Itay Michaeli))) after seeing TSLA crash 55%)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734791)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Whoa, suddenly it turns out you were right about those TSLA stonk numbers, after all!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734796)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Provocative menage

Copy and paste the post where I "got TSLA stock numbers wrong" you psychotic queer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734806)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:36 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Literally that entire retarded subthread wasteland which I already linked above, big guy.

You: "TSLA has been flat for like 5 years now, plus it also underperformed the market during that time as well. Sad!"

(Objective Reality: TSLA literally 3.5xd in value during that time window, making it one of the best performing high-cap stonks that someone could have owned from the beginning of 2023 to the end of 2024.)

You: "So then you can't link to me saying anything wrong? Hmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734811)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: up-to-no-good piazza

I hate Musk but it is kind of remarkable how faggoty and full of shit a lot of his biggest critics are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734817)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: Provocative menage

I'll do you a favor and link my actual post, Ari. I'll wait for you to prove me wrong on Tesla being flat since December 2020.

Date: March 10th, 2025 4:02 PM

Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,.,,,...,,.,.,...,,...,.,,.,..,.

What I see from that chart is that Tesla has been flat since December 2020. Yikes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5691958&forum_id=2#48734022)

----

And I'll copy your post above for posterity since you're editing now in addition to employing sock puppets

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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:36 PM

Author: To be fair(Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Literally that entire retarded subthread wasteland which I already linked above, big guy.

You: "TSLA has been flat for like 5 years now, plus it also underperformed the market during that time as well. Sad!"

(Objective Reality: TSLA literally 3.5xd in value during that time window, making it one of the best performing high-cap stonks that someone could have owned from the beginning of 2023 to the end of 2024.)

You: "So then you can't link to me saying anything wrong? Hmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734822)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Provocative menage

[duplicate post]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734820)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Odious dun location

No way Elon will step down. He is Jerry Jones or Al Davis now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734760)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: Provocative menage

He is Joe Paterno

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734792)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: Odious dun location

Joe Pa is 180 and in Heaven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734823)



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Date: March 11th, 2025 6:20 AM
Author: Laughsome Well-lubricated Ape

shocking: a pumo refuses to be pinned down on any solid answer

"the exact dollar amount depends on inflation and relative gdp ..." wow you mean like every single fucking large corporation you fucking faggot? why is tesla so uniquely affected by macroeconomic movement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48736133)



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Date: March 15th, 2025 4:11 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

LJL

"DID U KNOW THAT 10 MILLION RUSSIANS HAVE DIED IN THIS STUPID WAR THAT RUSSIA IS LOSING?"

Wow that's bad, how many Ukrainians have died btw?

"WE CANNOT MEASURE THAT DUE TO THE 'FOG OF WAR'"

Oh wow!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48750367)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: ebony contagious windowlicker

$350.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734661)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:58 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 6:44 PM

Author: Heart of a woman, strength of a man.

$350.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734706)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Passionate mewling faggot firefighter property

If Muskrat stays CEO: sub $100

If he leaves: ~ $150

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734682)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:57 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 6:52 PM

Author: warlock

If Muskrat stays CEO: sub $100

If he leaves: ~ $150

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734703)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: ebony contagious windowlicker

Oh, I didn't realize we could do conditions.

If Elon stays CEO, $350. If he doesn't, $50.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734709)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: boyish legend

a million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734713)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Free-loading chapel candlestick maker

To be fair,

Date: March 10th, 2025 6:59 PM

Author: UN peacekeeper

a million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

***

TY, prediction recorded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734719)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:08 PM
Author: self-centered stage idea he suggested

https://x.com/mrfundman/status/1899173338188317183?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734743)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Odious dun location

So you are betting on Elon reversing his dementia or whatever he has? That doesn't usually happen. Look at Biden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734756)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:26 PM
Author: aromatic hall stain

He just needs to cool it with the ketamine and he’ll be ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734780)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: Odious dun location

Does ketamine make people poast boomer memes and wear graphic ts to the White House?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734785)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: aromatic hall stain

He’s probably doing it all the time. He admitted every couple weeks, so it’s probably more like every couple days. That could easily cause someone to behave erratically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734807)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: self-centered stage idea he suggested

Are you backing off your $4-5 Trillion company prediction already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734821)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: mustard rough-skinned hell

$0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48734828)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: Greedy metal base

$5,000 pre split

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48735119)



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Date: March 10th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: flesh stock car

either: (a) what ford is trading for in 2030, or (b) nothing if they get bought in a fire sale by a real company because musk's k holes, magical thinking, and outright bullshit about made up tech finally catch up with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48735677)



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Date: March 11th, 2025 6:17 AM
Author: Laughsome Well-lubricated Ape

$400

i would not be surprised if it was $50 or $50000 but i wanted to be alerted when this is bumped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5692061&forum_id=2#48736132)



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Date: March 15th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: self-centered stage idea he suggested

lol at any of us being alive to bump this in 2030

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Date: March 12th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: indigo place of business corner

0

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Date: March 15th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Glittery sickened indirect expression

138.47

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