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How much to counter for this in-house offer: $285k base, $57k bonus, $23k 401k?

The posted salary range in the job listing was $270k-$360k b...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
If they are really shitheads about base, come back with * $...
deep copper stead headpube
  05/06/25
Not an erisa-mo but I don’t think 401k match % is nego...
Swollen site police squad
  05/06/25
cr - non-discrimination provisions.
salmon friendly grandma deer antler
  05/07/25
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spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
Just do ask for an extra $100k in bonus money. You're on thi...
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
*GC gripping the back of your head as you start to gag* &...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
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Naked Passionate Organic Girlfriend Genital Piercing
  05/07/25
Tcr.
spectacular faggotry
  05/08/25
the 401k cap is 23,500 this year bro
Cheese-eating incel
  05/05/25
Is the employer match subject to the same limit? In any even...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
yes, IRS doesnt care who pays for it.
Cheese-eating incel
  05/05/25
"What Is the Employer Match 401(k) Limit? The most an ...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
wtf did this change in the past few years? tyft. it wasnt li...
Cheese-eating incel
  05/05/25
I think it's been like this for at least a few years.
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
No.
Supple rigpig brunch
  05/07/25
yes they do fuckface retard
twisted depressive parlour
  05/05/25
the amount of confidence with he will speak to on any number...
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/05/25
i admitted error right away, unlike most xo poasters who wil...
Cheese-eating incel
  05/05/25
not responsive in the slightest
Razzmatazz Ebony Step-uncle's House Laser Beams
  05/12/25
$23,500 is the cap on employee contributions. The cap on em...
Claret sweet tailpipe
  05/05/25
Pre tax. Employee can still contribute the other $45,000...
unhinged place of business
  05/06/25
Excellent notation
Odious Sandwich Blood Rage
  05/06/25
As of 2025, the IRS limits for 401(k) contributions are: Em...
stirring garrison
  05/06/25
Do you have another offer you can use to negotiate? Or just...
grizzly bbw
  05/05/25
I have my current job, which is fine and provides equity, bu...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
Link the Reddit post
Claret sweet tailpipe
  05/05/25
What makes this look like a Reddit post?
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
We're all successful solos or biglaw equity partners
Claret sweet tailpipe
  05/05/25
401k contributions
Cordovan Regret Chapel
  05/06/25
no way you got an in house job from a job listing
bipolar ratface
  05/05/25
Why not? I got this job offer and my current in-house job by...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
You must have a great resume and cover letter
floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car
  05/05/25
My resume is very prestigious law school-->very prestigio...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
Ok thank
floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car
  05/05/25
shrewd
deep copper stead headpube
  05/06/25
Hmm interesting. I’ve always heard (like directly fro...
concupiscible generalized bond dysfunction
  05/07/25
Seems like a good counter. Many in-house roles are very stin...
twisted depressive parlour
  05/05/25
Thanks. Yes, my goal is to push the base up as much as possi...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
I would ask $325k
lake rebellious station
  05/05/25
It depends what the middle of the range represents. At my co...
twisted depressive parlour
  05/05/25
It's really tough to know from the outside. My impression fr...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
How senior is this role?
Coiffed Range
  05/05/25
AGC. Fairly senior. Job posting wanted 8-10 years experience...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
No equity? The bonus percentage can be hard to negotiate ...
Coiffed Range
  05/05/25
Correct. No equity. I get the sense that the bonus percentag...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
No equity seems weird for a high salary. Maybe I’m jus...
Coiffed Range
  05/05/25
Probably non-public.
spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
In tech any non public job paying 300k base is still given e...
Coiffed Range
  05/07/25
Right but not everyone is in tech. My wife makes similar to...
spectacular faggotry
  05/08/25
In house exec here, have hired a number of attorneys. Th...
Maize native faggot firefighter
  05/05/25
The bonus scales with the base salary because it's a percent...
floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car
  05/05/25
Correct. And it is generally set by the band you're in.
spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
Do you really see asking for $30k more as off putting? Negot...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
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abusive charcoal office toilet seat
  05/06/25
Yes, and I’ve never had an attorney that received an o...
Maize native faggot firefighter
  05/06/25
lawyers are horrible people and you all deserve to die excep...
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/06/25
JFC. . .what a bunch of sheep
flesh new version
  05/07/25
"Please Master, can i have just a little bit more money...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
Yes. In general, if someone is asking for way more money th...
spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
10% is not "way more money", especially when its w...
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/07/25
go up to at least 270.
Overrated crackhouse milk
  05/05/25
Seniority/practice area/ did you ever make partner at a firm...
Laughsome karate institution
  05/05/25
AGC. Job posting said 8-10 years experience minimum, which I...
ivory pozpig
  05/05/25
...
Irradiated corn cake
  05/05/25
What a jackoff
Carmine lodge hominid
  05/05/25
Damn, not bad son!
Sable Hyperactive Marketing Idea
  05/06/25
Thank you. There is an interesting range itt, from people te...
ivory pozpig
  05/06/25
We once had to hire between two pretty even candidates. Mad...
Idiotic Contagious Library
  05/06/25
It's a tough game to play. I countered for about 12% more, t...
ivory pozpig
  05/06/25
Good luck man. Post results.
Idiotic Contagious Library
  05/06/25
Thank. Will do. Two interesting bits from my discussion with...
ivory pozpig
  05/06/25
In-house is generally very hard to get a base raise unless y...
Idiotic Contagious Library
  05/06/25
All the more reason to get base up now, while I have a shot...
ivory pozpig
  05/06/25
The fact that they offered the bottom of the range may indic...
concupiscible generalized bond dysfunction
  05/07/25
You should come back and say you’ll do it for $255k. I...
Swollen site police squad
  05/06/25
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aphrodisiac green clown roast beef
  05/07/25
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alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop
  05/07/25
i never know how to play this stuff but i hope you'll tell u...
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/06/25
I asked for $30k more, to get to the midpoint of the posted ...
ivory pozpig
  05/06/25
please update
Soul-stirring hall
  05/07/25
OP was murdered to death IRL.
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/07/25
Just tell them you need a $400k base and nothing else and te...
buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete
  05/06/25
“I thought this was the GC role I was interviewing for...
Coiffed Range
  05/07/25
...
buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete
  05/07/25
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spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
ITT: Wagecucks who grovel for the slightest bit of crumbs. ...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
Fair enough, but: $350-$400k isn't exactly "the slighte...
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
did you give them a firm handshake at the interviews?
aphrodisiac green clown roast beef
  05/07/25
cq
Soul-stirring hall
  05/07/25
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buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete
  05/08/25
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Adventurous Love Of Her Life Church Building
  05/16/25
What's your setup? The people who post this shit should wri...
spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
stfu Obeezy
lake rebellious station
  05/07/25
Adidas wearing Russian, not Obeezy
spectacular faggotry
  05/07/25
I have my own firm. If I want to make more money, I got ...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
cr but you’re talking to the coward TMF who thinks wag...
aphrodisiac green clown roast beef
  05/07/25
Yet somehow despite being a "coward" I make consid...
spectacular faggotry
  05/08/25
Interesting. Now tell us why you use a pumo to post.
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
Because you're a Nigger.
flesh new version
  05/12/25
...
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
pumos have all the answers. for a senior level in-house rol...
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/07/25
"and in-house can be touchy about asking for too much.&...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
what sort of work do you do? feel free to be vague if you'r...
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/07/25
I'm a trial lawyer that makes insurance companies pay me a l...
flesh new version
  05/12/25
CRs all around. Even without them increasing the offer, ...
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
when u make it big + it's time to hire outside counsel don't...
sticky preventive strike
  05/07/25
Don't forget to make them grovel in negotiation for an extra...
flesh new version
  05/07/25
...
abusive charcoal office toilet seat
  05/12/25
Pretty much 100% of the time that I work with outside counse...
ivory pozpig
  05/07/25
180
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/07/25
mfcr
sticky preventive strike
  05/08/25
UPDATE: The recruiter had told me that they would try to let...
ivory pozpig
  05/10/25
...
Irradiated corn cake
  05/11/25
180 good luck
Swollen site police squad
  05/12/25
HR has way too much power and requires exec approval for eve...
Coiffed Range
  05/12/25
...
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/12/25
time to run some invoicing kick backs! Where do you want to...
Soul-stirring hall
  05/12/25
Is this your first in-house job? GC’s weigh in on tons...
electric ceo temple
  05/12/25
is this some neurotic lawyer thing? i have always asked f...
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/12/25
Being well liked is generally inversely correlated to pay we...
Coiffed Range
  05/12/25
*OP giddy with appreciative excitement as he laps up GC's cu...
flesh new version
  05/12/25
aren't we all?
Soul-stirring hall
  05/12/25
...
aphrodisiac green clown roast beef
  05/12/25
Do you get food stamps too?
vivacious shimmering voyeur
  05/12/25
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flesh new version
  05/12/25
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ivory pozpig
  05/16/25
Update?
Maize native faggot firefighter
  05/13/25
...
spectacular faggotry
  05/15/25
Where are we on this
Maize native faggot firefighter
  05/16/25
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electric ceo temple
  05/16/25
Just some friendly advice, not sure how things operated at y...
unhinged place of business
  05/16/25
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cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/16/25
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abusive charcoal office toilet seat
  05/16/25
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Idiotic Contagious Library
  05/16/25
Update: They offered a signing bonus of $25k plus an additio...
ivory pozpig
  05/16/25
congrats, brother! seems like a fine outcome
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/16/25
TYVM. I'm happy about it. Job hunting is a rough and taxing ...
ivory pozpig
  05/16/25
it's terrible, yeah. so much time that feels wasted, until ...
Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky
  05/16/25
Congrats brother. Send your XO brothers some litigation wor...
Laughsome karate institution
  05/16/25
Thank. Will do.
ivory pozpig
  05/16/25
Now back into the salt mines
electric ceo temple
  05/16/25
The thing is, I never left.
ivory pozpig
  05/16/25
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buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete
  05/16/25
Congratulations on the job and on not being a bitchboi and a...
alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop
  05/16/25
TMF's aghast reaction to the gall of anyone negotiating afte...
cobalt marvelous sound barrier
  05/16/25
like any good russian, he loves the boot on his neck
aphrodisiac green clown roast beef
  05/16/25
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alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop
  05/16/25
You say that but I still make more.
spectacular faggotry
  05/16/25
Tbf, you are basically doing 3 jobs as a lawyer, compliance ...
alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop
  05/16/25
*looks to see if there's a face pressed against my window gl...
spectacular faggotry
  05/17/25
180
Razzmatazz Ebony Step-uncle's House Laser Beams
  05/16/25
I just want to note that I was the in house guy who told you...
Maize native faggot firefighter
  05/16/25
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Irradiated corn cake
  05/16/25
that's not bad, that's almost BIGLAW senior associate/of cou...
Bat shit crazy background story
  05/16/25


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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

The posted salary range in the job listing was $270k-$360k base.

I was offered:

$285k base

$57k bonus (i.e. 20%)

$23k 401k (i.e. 8% match)

How much should I counter for? I'm thinking:

$315k base

$63k bonus (i.e. sticking with 20%)

$25k 401k (i.e. sticking with 8% match--I don't think this is negotiable)

$30k signing bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906774)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: deep copper stead headpube

If they are really shitheads about base, come back with

* $300k base (but be willing to accept 295)

* Min bonus of $60k (20%) - Max bonus of $150k (discretionary- you can lobby this intensively once you're in the tent)

* See if you can get 401k up beyond 8%

* $50k signing bonus

I would also ask about base increases. Lockstep annually based on %? Discretionary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907706)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: Swollen site police squad

Not an erisa-mo but I don’t think 401k match % is negotiable (unless you’re in a bargaining unit haha)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909759)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: salmon friendly grandma deer antler

cr - non-discrimination provisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910746)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911368)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Just do ask for an extra $100k in bonus money. You're on thin ice as the job seeker. E.g., see the post below from the guy who said he pulled an offer from a candidate who wanted too much. That's not uncommon. They'll have no qualms moving onto the next guy if it looks like I'll be trouble. So, I asked for a bump, but I'm trying to be reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911174)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: flesh new version

*GC gripping the back of your head as you start to gag*

"That's a good Wageslut, take it deeper for Daddy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911542)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Naked Passionate Organic Girlfriend Genital Piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911741)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Tcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48913245)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:28 PM
Author: Cheese-eating incel

the 401k cap is 23,500 this year bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906777)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Is the employer match subject to the same limit? In any event, it's a small piece of the comp package, and I'll hit the limit if I hit the limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906796)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Cheese-eating incel

yes, IRS doesnt care who pays for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906803)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

"What Is the Employer Match 401(k) Limit?

The most an employer and employee can contribute together for 2025 is $70,000 if the employee is under 50 or $77,500 if the employee is 50 or older. Subtracting the maximum employee contribution limit for 2024 gives us $46,500 if the employee is under 50 or $54,000 if the employee is 50 or older. That's the most the employer can contribute to a 401(k) account and the employer can't contribute more than the employee's salary."

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100314/does-my-employers-matching-contribution-count-towards-maximum-i-can-contribute-my-401k-plan.asp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906814)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Cheese-eating incel

wtf did this change in the past few years? tyft. it wasnt like this before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906817)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

I think it's been like this for at least a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906824)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Supple rigpig brunch

No.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911361)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: twisted depressive parlour

yes they do fuckface retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906819)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

the amount of confidence with he will speak to on any number of things he doesn't actually have the first fucking clue about is truly amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906837)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: Cheese-eating incel

i admitted error right away, unlike most xo poasters who will never admit error

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906850)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ebony Step-uncle's House Laser Beams

not responsive in the slightest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48924054)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: Claret sweet tailpipe

$23,500 is the cap on employee contributions. The cap on employer contributions is much higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906810)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: unhinged place of business

Pre tax.

Employee can still contribute the other $45,000k+ poast tax and then do the MEGA BACKDOOR rollover to Roth IRA (IRS allows but not all plans allow in-service rollover to Roth IRA)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907935)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Odious Sandwich Blood Rage

Excellent notation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909799)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: stirring garrison

As of 2025, the IRS limits for 401(k) contributions are:

Employee Contribution Limit

$23,000 per year (if you're under 50)

$30,500 per year (if you're 50 or older, including the $7,500 catch-up contribution)

Total Annual Contribution Limit (Employee + Employer)

$69,000 per year (if you're under 50)

$76,500 per year (if you're 50 or older, including catch-up)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909798)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: grizzly bbw

Do you have another offer you can use to negotiate? Or just throwing numbers out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906779)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

I have my current job, which is fine and provides equity, but total comp is lower. So, I'd probably take this new offer even if they don't come up much on their offer. And I have a few other open interviews/applications pending.

At bottom, I'm just throwing numbers out there, but I'm not desperate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906804)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Claret sweet tailpipe

Link the Reddit post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906802)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:36 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

What makes this look like a Reddit post?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906805)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Claret sweet tailpipe

We're all successful solos or biglaw equity partners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906816)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Cordovan Regret Chapel

401k contributions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907692)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: bipolar ratface

no way you got an in house job from a job listing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906828)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Why not? I got this job offer and my current in-house job by just seeing a job listing on linkedin and applying, with no referral or anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906832)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car

You must have a great resume and cover letter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906839)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

My resume is very prestigious law school-->very prestigious law firm-->interesting (but not particularly prestigious) in-house job. It's enough to get noticed and picked up out of the pile of hundreds of resumes.

I almost never submit a cover letter. I haven't found it worth the extra effort, though it might be.

The other key is sending out many, many applications, soon after each job is posted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906848)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car

Ok thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906853)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: deep copper stead headpube

shrewd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907699)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 12:51 AM
Author: concupiscible generalized bond dysfunction

Hmm interesting. I’ve always heard (like directly from recruiters at big companies) that the cover letter was critical to get past the term search automation. But I haven’t actually tried your method, and though I tend to get responses at a pretty high rate, I often let a posting sit for a week or so while I get around to writing the cover letter. Thinking I should try out your method and see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910106)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: twisted depressive parlour

Seems like a good counter. Many in-house roles are very stingy on base pay raises and push it more towards bonus as you get more senior. At my company, someone with that salary would be getting a 40% bonus, so you may want to push for more there.

IDK if they can go to 8% on 401(k). 6% is usually the highpoint and it may be something set plan-wide. But it's worth an ask. If they can't give you that, ask for more RSUs but they are pretty shitty IMO unless they vest relatively quickly. (Mine vest in equal tranches over 4 years which is very lame.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906829)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Thanks. Yes, my goal is to push the base up as much as possible. I'd much rather have an additional dollar in base than an additional dollar in bonus, especially to start out with as it will set that level for the duration of my tenure.

Do you think I should ask for more than $315k? That's "only" the middle of their posted range. I want to maximize the base, but I don't want to ask for so much that they don't enggage.

They already offered an 8% 401k match. I think it's standard for them for the level of this role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906842)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: lake rebellious station

I would ask $325k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906855)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 8:58 PM
Author: twisted depressive parlour

It depends what the middle of the range represents. At my company, it's the "mid-range point," and it represents what someone in the middle of their tenure in that role would be earning. For internal hires that would be a promotion, it would be hard to get that, and you usually and up starting somewhere about 20-30% above the lowest end. If you are making a lateral move from outside, you should ask for slightly above the mid-range. I would ask for $315 but accept $300 which is what I imagine they have in mind. But they really hate paying in-house counsel high base salaries for whatever reason. (At my company, you are basically capped at however much you make when you cross 250K in base salary, but we get much larger bonuses.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906859)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:16 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

It's really tough to know from the outside. My impression from doing several interviews with different companies seems to be that the posted range is more or less meaningless and/or they target offering an amount well below the midpoint of the "range." I did several interviews where the range was, e.g., $200-$300 base, then they would say they expected to offer $210-$220 as the base.

For this one, it would be great to get above $300 base, but I don't want to overplay my hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906900)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: Coiffed Range

How senior is this role?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906920)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

AGC. Fairly senior. Job posting wanted 8-10 years experience minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906926)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: Coiffed Range

No equity?

The bonus percentage can be hard to negotiate because HR loves to keep everyone at the same percentage based on seniority. Unless this is C level or a smaller company

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906914)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Correct. No equity. I get the sense that the bonus percentage could be negotiable, but I'd rather have a higher base salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906931)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: Coiffed Range

No equity seems weird for a high salary. Maybe I’m just not familiar with non tech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906953)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Probably non-public.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911360)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Coiffed Range

In tech any non public job paying 300k base is still given equity/profit units. I have such a job. Yeah it may never pay out but sometimes it does and it is very lucrative. I’ve made like 5 mill this way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911531)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Right but not everyone is in tech. My wife makes similar to the OP (even more on the bonus side) but 0 equity because the company isn't public.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48913266)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: Maize native faggot firefighter

In house exec here, have hired a number of attorneys.

The fact there’s no stock is weird, but maybe that’s how they are (or not a public company?).

You can ask for another $20k on salary and maybe you’d get $10. Asking for $30k more is a bit off putting. But do it if you want. Downside is that if they hire you, they may be thinking that you’re gonna be a squeaky wheel and you may start off on the wrong foot in your boss’s eyes.

Asking for a signing bonus is fine.

Asking for the higher bonus and 401(k) matches weird. The 401(k) match may be standardize the company and nobody thinks about that anyways. And the bonus is like a chump change in terms of what you’re asking them to add so I don’t know why you would bother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906921)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: floppy maniacal kitty cat stock car

The bonus scales with the base salary because it's a percentage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906934)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Correct. And it is generally set by the band you're in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911353)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:35 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Do you really see asking for $30k more as off putting? Negotiating salary is basically expected. $30k here is only 10% more and would only take me to the middle of the posted range. I'm leaning toward asking for a bit more than that, hoping to land at $25k above what they offered.

I'm thinking it won't ask for higher bonus or 401k percentages (and i think the 401k percentage is set in stone). Because those are percentages of the base, they'll scale up with an increase in base.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906961)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: abusive charcoal office toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907838)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Maize native faggot firefighter

Yes, and I’ve never had an attorney that received an offer ask for $30k more. I asked for 20k more years ago when I first joined my company, and got 5. The last four attorneys I hired, 3 asked for no additional money, one asked for 5k which we gave him. You want to be seen as a team player. YMMV.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48908191)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

lawyers are horrible people and you all deserve to die except luis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48908205)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: flesh new version

JFC. . .what a bunch of sheep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911548)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: flesh new version

"Please Master, can i have just a little bit more money in exchange for my time, talent, and experience? I promise to be a good wageslut"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911187)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Yes. In general, if someone is asking for way more money than what is being offered then you're probably better off giving the job to someone who is happy with the salary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911356)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

10% is not "way more money", especially when its well within the bounds of the originally stated range. I've never not asked for more than offered and in my experience it's only women who immediately accept without at least trying to haggle (assuming it's not a position for someone fresh out of school).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911388)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Overrated crackhouse milk

go up to at least 270.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48906955)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: Laughsome karate institution

Seniority/practice area/ did you ever make partner at a firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907031)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 10:16 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

AGC. Job posting said 8-10 years experience minimum, which I'm above.

General big company stuff

No

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907049)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Irradiated corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907108)



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Date: May 5th, 2025 11:00 PM
Author: Carmine lodge hominid

What a jackoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48907160)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: Sable Hyperactive Marketing Idea

Damn, not bad son!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48908236)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Thank you. There is an interesting range itt, from people telling me it's peanuts to people saying it's not even possible to get a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909524)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: Idiotic Contagious Library

We once had to hire between two pretty even candidates. Made candidate A an offer and she countered asking for 25% more than the original offer in base salary and an additional amount of PTO days (we were already offering like 25 plus holidays). Offer was pulled and made to candidate B who accepted the next day.

You’re probably fine to make a small counter, but don’t come off as a pain in the ass.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909709)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:45 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

It's a tough game to play. I countered for about 12% more, to get to the midpoint of the posted base for the job, plus a signing bonus. That seems reasonable. We'll see what unfolds.

The stories of people getting offers pulled are rough. Some negotiation is almost expected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909731)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: Idiotic Contagious Library

Good luck man. Post results.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909795)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Thank. Will do. Two interesting bits from my discussion with the recruiter about this.

(1) She said the GC already approved the offer, he'll need to approve any changes, and he's unlikely to do so. Not sure if her saying that is a negotiation tactic or what.

(2) She said they reconsider salaries annually, and this year, someone with strong positive reviews could have received a 4% raise. To me, that said you better get your base as high as you can now, because it's not going up much from here. I already knew that was likely the case, but it was interesting to hear her say it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909825)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: Idiotic Contagious Library

In-house is generally very hard to get a base raise unless you get promoted. You can get bonuses up to 50-100% of base depending on how well your perform (ie how important your reporting chain is and how much they like you)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909831)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:51 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

All the more reason to get base up now, while I have a shot.

And at this place, AGC is a pretty senior title. There aren't many attorneys above it. So, a promotion might be unlikely. That said, it seems like a good place to work and it's a solid offer. I hope they'll offer a little more and I can join.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909845)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: concupiscible generalized bond dysfunction

The fact that they offered the bottom of the range may indicate that you weren’t their first choice and they aren’t that sold on you as a must have candidate. I think it’s less of an issue of asking for 20 or 30 more v what you do when they counter with 5k more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910110)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: Swollen site police squad

You should come back and say you’ll do it for $255k. It’s showing a value-add immediately. They’ll be impressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909755)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 12:58 AM
Author: aphrodisiac green clown roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910111)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911367)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

i never know how to play this stuff but i hope you'll tell us how it goes. fwiw i'd ask for $20k base and be happy with $10. i also think it could be a good angle to ask for a higher target bonus percentage - noting that it's discretionary - because you are signaling that you are confident in your ability to knock it out of the park. but i'd pick one or the other, wouldn't ask for both. i do think the risk is nonzero that an offer gets pulled if you counter too hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909817)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 10:46 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

I asked for $30k more, to get to the midpoint of the posted range. It seemed fair and only about 12% over the initial offer. I tried to do it tactfully.

The best negotiating tactic is signaling that you're willing to walk away. You can't really do that too strongly here because they surely have many other qualified candidates who would be quite happy to take the offer you're saying you'll walk away from.

There is a certain type of person who would enjoy this. For me, it's a pain, and I'll be glad when it's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909835)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 6:00 AM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

please update

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910285)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 12:26 PM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

OP was murdered to death IRL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911024)



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Date: May 6th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete

Just tell them you need a $400k base and nothing else and tell them to cut the crap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48909882)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 1:47 AM
Author: Coiffed Range

“I thought this was the GC role I was interviewing for”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910150)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48910737)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911369)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: flesh new version

ITT: Wagecucks who grovel for the slightest bit of crumbs.

"OH NO! WHAT IF I ASK FOR TOO MUCH PAY!?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911192)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Fair enough, but: $350-$400k isn't exactly "the slightest bit of crumbs." And I know the answer to that "what if?" question. If I ask for too much, they could pull the offer, and it's back to applying, interviewing, and working at my current job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911206)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: aphrodisiac green clown roast beef

did you give them a firm handshake at the interviews?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911276)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911309)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48913386)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Adventurous Love Of Her Life Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936294)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

What's your setup? The people who post this shit should write what they do and how wealthy they are. Most appear to be doing better only in their own heads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911366)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: lake rebellious station

stfu Obeezy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911381)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Adidas wearing Russian, not Obeezy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911475)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: flesh new version

I have my own firm.

If I want to make more money, I got out and get more cases.

I don't cower in fear that someone might "take away" my job if I ask to be properly compensated for the work that I complete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911541)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: aphrodisiac green clown roast beef

cr but you’re talking to the coward TMF who thinks wagecucking is honorable because the salary is above average

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911973)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: spectacular faggotry

Yet somehow despite being a "coward" I make considerably more than this and also overwhelmingly WFH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48913248)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 7:09 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Interesting. Now tell us why you use a pumo to post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48912042)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: flesh new version

Because you're a Nigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923777)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 6:25 PM
Author: ivory pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911911)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

pumos have all the answers. for a senior level in-house role, they don't grow on trees. he probably has things he really likes about the role, and it could be the right fit. things that could make a big difference in QOL. and in-house can be touchy about asking for too much. ymmv

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911453)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: flesh new version

"and in-house can be touchy about asking for too much."

Right, because a lawyer with over a decade of knowledge, talent, and relevant experience, should always show obsequious deference when begging for a new job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911545)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

what sort of work do you do? feel free to be vague if you're too much of a pussy to put even a real pseudonym to your thoughts. for me $10k a year really isn't material vs going to a job i enjoy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911875)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: flesh new version

I'm a trial lawyer that makes insurance companies pay me a lot of money to avoid getting their shit pushed in.

I run my own business so I never have to "negotiate" how much I'm being paid for the service I provide for others.

Be a man and start your own firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923764)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

CRs all around.

Even without them increasing the offer, it's a step up in comp from my current role. And putting comp aside, there are other aspects of the new job i expect I'll like more.

Jobs that are a step up from my current one are hard to come by.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48912013)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: sticky preventive strike

when u make it big + it's time to hire outside counsel don't forget your xo bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911473)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: flesh new version

Don't forget to make them grovel in negotiation for an extra $5k!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48911555)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: abusive charcoal office toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923952)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

Pretty much 100% of the time that I work with outside counsel, I drop xo shibboleths and see what I get back. Not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48912028)



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Date: May 7th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48912206)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: sticky preventive strike

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48913006)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: ivory pozpig

UPDATE: The recruiter had told me that they would try to let me know about any adjustments by the end of the week. On Friday afternoon, she told me that they touched base with the GC and would be in touch early next week with an update.

I presume that means they will give me something more, at least a signing bonus. I'm not sure why the GC (of this giant company) needed to weigh in on a request to move a potentially incoming AGC's salary up 11%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48919668)



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Date: May 11th, 2025 10:32 PM
Author: Irradiated corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48922760)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:12 AM
Author: Swollen site police squad

180 good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923129)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:18 AM
Author: Coiffed Range

HR has way too much power and requires exec approval for everything non standard. I had to involve my boss (GC) and head of HR to push through a 10k raise for a star employee making dog shit. It’s stuff like that that makes me want to burn it all down

Oh and meanwhile I control a large legal budget on outside counsel and can easily waste 50k without anyone even noticing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923214)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923430)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:03 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

time to run some invoicing kick backs!

Where do you want to go on vacation this year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923897)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:36 AM
Author: electric ceo temple

Is this your first in-house job? GC’s weigh in on tons of things you would think they wouldn’t.

Most likely this bump is hitting a rule related to pay at your level or they have to reopen a requisition and reprocess it. When you start you need to remember that you were basically a jerk to deal with (not saying you’re wrong), but everyone there is already annoyed by you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923234)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 6:40 AM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

is this some neurotic lawyer thing?

i have always asked for 10% more than offered and so have the vast majority of people i've ever interviewed (assuming it wasn't already an offer at the top of the given pay range). nobody fucking cares, man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923239)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 7:21 AM
Author: Coiffed Range

Being well liked is generally inversely correlated to pay weirdly enough. It’s all the “won’t rock the boat” types that are the lowest paid on the team, but people sure do like them, swell guys, team players

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923264)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: flesh new version

*OP giddy with appreciative excitement as he laps up GC's cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923778)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

aren't we all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923898)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: aphrodisiac green clown roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48924046)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: vivacious shimmering voyeur

Do you get food stamps too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923901)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: flesh new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48923919)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: ivory pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936371)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 7:51 PM
Author: Maize native faggot firefighter

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48928221)



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Date: May 15th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: spectacular faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48932413)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 7:39 AM
Author: Maize native faggot firefighter

Where are we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936154)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: electric ceo temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936195)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: unhinged place of business

Just some friendly advice, not sure how things operated at your old firm, but here, responsiveness and attention to detail is really important, just keep an eye on your emails and threads so you can respond quickly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936271)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936301)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: abusive charcoal office toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936310)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: Idiotic Contagious Library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936352)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: ivory pozpig

Update: They offered a signing bonus of $25k plus an additional $10k in base. They kind of gave off the impression that a signing bonus might be common (then why wasn't it in the initial offer?), but most people don't negotiate on base and annual bonus with them. I thought negotiating was almost expected. In any event, the update took the offer to:

$295k base

$59k bonus (i.e. 20%)

$23.6k 401k (i.e. 8% match)

$25k one-time signing bonus

I accepted.

It's disappointing that the offer was still well below the median of the posted range for the job ($270k-$360k base), never mind the top end. That seems pretty common for jobs I interviewed for this year: They'd list a posted range of $100k or so, then they'd say they're only going to offer something at the bottom of the range.

That aside, I'm happy to have the new job. It seems like a good team I'll be joining, it's a step up in comp from my current job, and it seems like a good work environment, to the extent such a thing exists at a big company in 2025. I'm excited to get going with them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936412)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

congrats, brother! seems like a fine outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936496)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: ivory pozpig

TYVM. I'm happy about it. Job hunting is a rough and taxing process. I'm glad to be through it with a good offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936595)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Chestnut Becky

it's terrible, yeah. so much time that feels wasted, until boom!, you got one to land

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936737)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Laughsome karate institution

Congrats brother. Send your XO brothers some litigation work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936498)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: ivory pozpig

Thank. Will do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936597)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: electric ceo temple

Now back into the salt mines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936529)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: ivory pozpig

The thing is, I never left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936599)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: buck-toothed dead senate keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938474)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop

Congratulations on the job and on not being a bitchboi and accepting their initial offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936741)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: cobalt marvelous sound barrier

TMF's aghast reaction to the gall of anyone negotiating after an offer was 180. this thread broke his brain imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48936750)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: aphrodisiac green clown roast beef

like any good russian, he loves the boot on his neck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48937010)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:33 PM
Author: alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938368)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:35 PM
Author: spectacular faggotry

You say that but I still make more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938376)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 10:52 PM
Author: alcoholic nursing home gaming laptop

Tbf, you are basically doing 3 jobs as a lawyer, compliance officer, and IT security expert.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938416)



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Date: May 17th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: spectacular faggotry

*looks to see if there's a face pressed against my window glass*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938536)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Ebony Step-uncle's House Laser Beams

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48937152)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 5:16 PM
Author: Maize native faggot firefighter

I just want to note that I was the in house guy who told you above they would increase $10k on base.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48937665)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Irradiated corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48937741)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy background story

that's not bad, that's almost BIGLAW senior associate/of counsel pay with probably a lot less stress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720867&forum_id=2#48938458)