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i think computers have made reality impossible to inhabit
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:48 PM Author: whyisthatthere i am not elaborating at this time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955656) |
Date: June 22nd, 2026 2:51 PM Author: Consuela Oh well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955664) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:01 PM Author: "civilization" could be here, he thought i wrote an essay like 15 years ago about how the real world would increasingly be out-competed by Online matrix worlds as environments for humans to inhabit
i was completely right and i wish i could find that essay again. it's somewhere out there, Online |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:13 PM Author: whyisthatthere that's true but my thesis is deeper and structural. It's not just that Online is better, it's that Online has fundamentally altered our ability to inhabit physical reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955721) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM Author: "civilization" could be here, he thought how so specifically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955724) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:16 PM Author: whyisthatthere i am not elaborating at this time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955727) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:17 PM Author: Consuela Baudrillard associates each of those distortions of reality with periods of increasing technical sophistication:
Stage one and two: Associated with the premodern period, it’s representation is an artificial placemarker for the real item. The uniqueness of objects and situations marks them as real and signification gropes towards this reality.
Stage three: Associated with the modernity of the Industrial Revolution where distinctions between representation and reality break down due to the proliferation of mass-reproducible copies of items, turning them into commodities. The commodity's ability to imitate reality threatens to replace the authority of the original version, because the copy is just as "real" as its prototype.
Stage four: Associated with the postmodernity of late capitalism where the simulacrum precedes the original and the distinction between reality and representation vanishes. There is only the simulation, and originality becomes a totally meaningless concept.
(Proposed stage five: The simulation reorders underlying reality to act in accordance with it) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM Author: whyisthatthere Baudrillard is a faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955730) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM Author: Consuela yeah so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955731) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM Author: gay of hormuz https://sites.evergreen.edu/politicalshakespeares/wp-content/uploads/sites/226/2015/12/Borges-Tl%C3%B6n-Uqbar-Orbius-Tertius.pdf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955734) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:26 PM Author: Consuela ty, so this is where that faggot yarvin came up with "tlon" as his programming language for urbit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955739) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 4:02 PM Author: Richard Ames My own view is that Stage Five is active, but that not everyone operates within it. Feels like an 80/20 rule (or maybe 90/10) where the majority is basically programmed like a wind-up toy by The Internet and a subset still operate in the Real World. As much as technology dominates, there is still a "handshake" element to a lot of business and major deals.
This probably sounds super Boomer, but you may know what I mean. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:27 PM Author: "civilization" could be here, he thought doesn't sound like a very deep and structural thesis
i can think of a bunch of reasons off the top of my head though. but they can all be more or less boiled down to artificial online realities out-competing real-reality (the 'why's' are pretty important though) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:29 PM Author: whyisthatthere There's not a necessary relationship between "outcompeting reality" and "fundamentally altering man's relationship with reality."
My thesis is therefore deeper and more structural than your weak, non-load-bearing one. |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:35 PM Author: "civilization" could be here, he thought the latter is a 'why' contributor to the former imho
among other things, The Matrix(es) becoming preferable to irl for humans has been a self-fulfilling prophecy in no small part due to the matrix warping the real world. it's a feedback loop that has been and is continuing to intensify
you can't improve irl in order to try to out-compete the matrix fair and square. irl will just be adjusted accordingly by the matrix in response. the feedback loop has to be destroyed, which means that the matrix itself has to be destroyed |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM Author: gay of hormuz https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300078152/seeing-like-a-state/
I look forward to your 2028 magnum opus "Seeing Like A Computer" |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:15 PM Author: AI has never started a F500 company living irl sometimes is actually fun and crrrr imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955725) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:18 PM Author: whyisthatthere "see you there" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955729) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:19 PM Author: AI has never started a F500 company if I inhabited it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955732) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:22 PM Author: whyisthatthere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955735) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2026 3:33 PM Author: gay of hormuz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5876487&forum_id=2...#49955752) |