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Mass Effect Andromeda singlehandedly killed a very promising scifi IP

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/02/22
https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA
Motley pit filthpig
  05/02/22
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Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video...
Indecent coffee pot pocket flask
  05/02/22
Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the develo...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/02/22
EA makes shitty games exclusively ime
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/03/22
We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created st...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. ...
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/03/22
Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up ...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vaca...
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/03/22
You put too much stock in the power of a console over the me...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or m...
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/03/22
I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few ...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earth...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/04/22
PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/04/22
ME3 actually
Claret Cerebral Ape
  05/02/22
Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other fa...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/02/22
the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the seri...
Coral Clown Place Of Business
  05/02/22
This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle c...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/02/22
ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minu...
histrionic silver house
  05/03/22
the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame)....
Coral Clown Place Of Business
  05/04/22
I read about the fan service party mission thing and found t...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/04/22
the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writi...
Coral Clown Place Of Business
  05/04/22
The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure ...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/04/22
Which killed the franchise They literally had to apologiz...
Claret Cerebral Ape
  05/04/22
games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get high...
Aqua Insanely Creepy Menage
  05/03/22
2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to ...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
libs, women, skin suits etc https://www.reddit.com/r/pcga...
Contagious old irish cottage
  05/03/22
Female game developers are occasionally very talented and cr...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/03/22
andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got
onyx vigorous hunting ground
  05/04/22
it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. r...
rough-skinned forum dopamine
  05/04/22
What
Motley pit filthpig
  05/04/22
I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third throu...
Motley pit filthpig
  05/04/22
Did you enjoy Quest 64
spruce vivacious stag film
  05/04/22
...
things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:05 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot of cultural staying power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44442949)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:18 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44443103)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451202)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:06 PM
Author: Indecent coffee pot pocket flask

Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44442959)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:07 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the development hell that the game was stuck in

Iirc Bioware pulled dev responsibilities away from their primary studio (to have them work on Dragon Age) while dumping this half finished over-promised pile of shit onto Bioware Montreal, which was a reorganized "finisher" studio known primarily for shovelware at that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44442976)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:31 PM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

EA makes shitty games exclusively ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451228)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created studio

Bioware was purchased by EA shortly before the ME2 release iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451247)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. I’m surprised “BioWare” ever made anything decent if EA owned them. I’ve always stayed away from their games just bc they’re similar to Other Games that already exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451263)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up until then it was still largely (at that time) the studio that brought us Baldur's Gate and KOTOR. The writing for ME was typically interesting and occasionally thought provoking at certain points

The main plot is an enjoyable Space Bond (Craig bond) trek through interesting alien environments that often broach on good executions of high quality high concept scifi. They were pretty good games all in all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451315)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:56 PM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vacant imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451398)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:58 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

You put too much stock in the power of a console over the media put into it

Unless it physically can't render the text necessary for it, good storytelling and writing can be found on most consoles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451410)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:03 PM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or mega man 64? It just feels wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451429)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:20 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few months back and ended up playing it late one night

Extremely intense game, almost veers into a Glover or Nights into Dreams dreamscape experience at times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451538)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earthworm Jims of whatever that box was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452198)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:17 AM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452610)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:08 PM
Author: Claret Cerebral Ape

ME3 actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44442984)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other factors and a series as popular and involved as ME gets a mulligan, for better or for worse. I also heard that the multiplayer in 3 was a lot of fun

Andromeda was the point of no return; people basically stopped talking about the franchise entirely after that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44443019)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:12 PM
Author: Coral Clown Place Of Business

the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the series by a long shot, and still holds up well today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44443032)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:15 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle customization in 3's MP was good

Unfortunately the gameplay in these is Gears of War c. 2008 derivative stuff imo and a franchise like this lives or dies on the strength of its storytelling, which Andromeda completely failed on every level from world building down to basic dialogue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44443062)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:37 PM
Author: histrionic silver house

ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451277)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: Coral Clown Place Of Business

the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame). I love the mining asteroid mission so much, incredible atmosphere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452111)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

I read about the fan service party mission thing and found the dialogue in it cringe enough to not want to give it a shot

There was a yuge drop in writing quality between two and three---EA supposedly stuffed some unqualified women in somewhere and Bioware hired a few cowgog AVGN fat guys of their own to muck things up

Iirc this was around the time we started seeing the stuff we now know (and still don't understand) as Gamergate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452157)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:22 AM
Author: Coral Clown Place Of Business

the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writing in 2. the loyalty missions in 2 seem good at first but it's incredibly stupid that nearly all of them boil down to "fix this guy's daddy issues". 2 is the worst game in the trilogy overall on a mechanical level too, just an absolute slog on higher difficulties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452181)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure but I thought that the dialogue much better than 1s. Lol I know what you mean, I think they used that 2-3 times throughout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452192)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: Claret Cerebral Ape

Which killed the franchise

They literally had to apologize for how bad the ending was and release a DLC to try and fix it and the creative director stepped down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44453047)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:04 PM
Author: Aqua Insanely Creepy Menage

games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get higher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451435)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:18 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to be something other than the robot harvesters and instead focus on character development more throughout instead of spending so much time hyping an already revealed threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451526)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:10 PM
Author: Contagious old irish cottage

libs, women, skin suits etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/6067ku/bioware_statement_on_mass_effect_andromeda_lead/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451471)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:14 PM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

Female game developers are occasionally very talented and creative tbf

Jason Schreier did a very good article for Kotaku that laid out where the different elements of this game all went wrong: https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428/amp

His politics are spotty but he's still a 174 journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44451501)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:54 AM
Author: onyx vigorous hunting ground

andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452259)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:59 AM
Author: rough-skinned forum dopamine

it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. reasonably enjoyable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452269)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

What

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452279)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: Motley pit filthpig

I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third through this one

Obtuse, poorly designed crafting, atrocious dialogue, poorly conceived and written main characters, obnoxious quests and quest systems, etc. Company members leaking stuff to the press or forums that showed that so and so was aware of the state of the game pre-launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452278)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:18 AM
Author: spruce vivacious stag film

Did you enjoy Quest 64

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#44452611)



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Date: March 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2...#49726959)