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Best exit option for burned out solo lawmo?

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't w...
slate associate
  01/09/23
Sad
know-it-all nursing home
  01/09/23
Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn...
Puce philosopher-king mental disorder
  01/09/23
Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely. Sick of...
slate associate
  01/09/23
Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more a...
Puce philosopher-king mental disorder
  01/09/23
Most important part of being a solo is doing constant busine...
slate associate
  01/09/23
I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision ...
Puce philosopher-king mental disorder
  01/09/23
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Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
Suck dick, maybe? At your age, you probably won't be abl...
wild beady-eyed house
  01/09/23
Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find ma...
Federal Indian Lodge New Version
  01/09/23
lol need to make 200k
Territorial trailer park
  01/09/23
I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be h...
slate associate
  01/09/23
what figure wouldn't make you lol
fishy heady milk
  01/09/23
not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring...
Territorial trailer park
  01/09/23
I'm not opposed to sales at all. How hard is it to break...
slate associate
  01/09/23
what clique are you?
Fighting senate
  01/10/23
Scumbag TBH
slate associate
  01/11/23
I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make e...
Khaki Boiling Water
  01/09/23
Yup
slate associate
  01/09/23
my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted ...
motley harsh windowlicker abode
  01/09/23
feel like i wrote your post. it bewilders me that, someho...
Territorial trailer park
  01/09/23
I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that t...
Khaki Boiling Water
  01/09/23
That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every...
Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
You are both describing my life, too. Over the holidays I...
slate associate
  01/09/23
Literally just had this happen.
Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
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Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to li...
Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
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mahogany trust fund
  01/10/23
https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp...
Glittery turquoise national
  01/09/23
You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former...
Onyx tanning salon
  01/09/23
$200k is not that much any more.
slate associate
  01/09/23
It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.
Onyx tanning salon
  01/09/23
You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpref...
claret gaped travel guidebook clown
  01/10/23
age / nw?
Swollen coffee pot
  01/09/23
window
thriller alcoholic box office corn cake
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impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
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Copper Razzle Theater Stage
  01/10/23
I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ev...
Scarlet Site Degenerate
  01/09/23
It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-h...
slate associate
  01/09/23
Work the front desk at a hotel
impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
  01/09/23
My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show an...
slate associate
  01/09/23
Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?
impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
  01/09/23
JD opens a lot of doors
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slate associate
  01/09/23
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cannon
  06/26/26
I think you have a good thing going and should probably appr...
Scarlet Site Degenerate
  01/09/23
You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wa...
slate associate
  01/09/23
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impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
  01/09/23
All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to l...
Scarlet Site Degenerate
  01/09/23
weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but...
Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman
  01/09/23
It's all $hit :)?
impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
  01/09/23
It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/09/23
yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I beco...
Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman
  01/09/23
I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you...
Cerebral business firm
  01/09/23
-No boss -No fake emergencies created by your own team ...
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/09/23
So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the a...
Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman
  01/09/23
Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance ...
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/09/23
How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical...
Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman
  01/09/23
I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and ...
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/09/23
can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from lit...
Alcoholic station
  01/09/23
Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventua...
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/10/23
Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doin...
Alcoholic station
  01/10/23
Can I take you out to lunch sometime?
Cerebral business firm
  01/09/23
Sure if you're in LA
Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital
  01/10/23
What floor is your office on?
Curious parlour ratface
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impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
  01/09/23
cr. pull a Garry Hoy.
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impressive sanctuary old irish cottage
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disgusting ladyboy boltzmann
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Histrionic set sandwich
  01/10/23
become a Director at F100
Lascivious turdskin place of business
  01/09/23
Solo transactional work instead?
Bistre sinister field kitty
  01/09/23
Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion
Contagious dull candlestick maker background story
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Curious parlour ratface
  09/01/25
I make $75k
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Sexy menage
  01/10/23
this is a big improvement brother ur doing great
mahogany trust fund
  01/10/23
it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this ...
Charismatic haunting hell roast beef
  01/10/23
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Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman
  01/11/23
Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years eas...
Laughsome love of her life
  01/09/23
Poast on xo
Mentally Impaired Laser Beams
  01/09/23
Move to a farm and raise ducks
bonkers gold liquid oxygen yarmulke
  01/09/23
Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2...
seedy tantric lodge party of the first part
  01/09/23
Sex with men for money.
Light property digit ratio
  01/09/23
antidepressants
Mewling shrine blood rage
  01/10/23
Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems s...
provocative internet-worthy immigrant ceo
  01/10/23
I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I app...
slate associate
  01/11/23
u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole c...
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  01/11/23
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slate associate
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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:55 PM
Author: slate associate

Solo commercial lit attorney. Burned out. Definitely don't want to go back to a firm or in-house (even if it was an option).

Need to make at least $200k per year. Any options or am I fucked for life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45764995)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: know-it-all nursing home

Sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45764999)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 3:56 PM
Author: Puce philosopher-king mental disorder

Sounds like you’ve kind of ruled everything out. Learn to code maybe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765001)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: slate associate

Ruled out law, yes. I want to get out completely.

Sick of arguing and being detail oriented and sitting alone in a room for hours reading documents. Coding seems like the same thing minus arguing, so I don't think it's for me.

I want to get out of the office and talk to people and be social again. Some kind of business development maybe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765042)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:08 PM
Author: Puce philosopher-king mental disorder

Yeah those jerbs exist but the ones that pay $200K or more are generally not offered to burned out self-employed litigators grasping for a career change.

Remove the salary requirement and you might have something to work with here (that could be a path to $200K or better in idk 5 years?)

But if you won’t consider anything less, better fall back in love with litigating and fast. I meant you’ve ruled out everything that’s an actual possibility for you in my earlier post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765070)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: slate associate

Most important part of being a solo is doing constant business development so it's not a completely unrelated skillset.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765098)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Puce philosopher-king mental disorder

I don’t disagree, but good luck convincing a decision maker hiring for a $200K+ jerb of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765110)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:16 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767512)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: wild beady-eyed house

Suck dick, maybe?

At your age, you probably won't be able to demand depending on where you live.

There is nothing else you can do with your age & skillset that commands $200k a year.

Either lower your expectations or learn to deepthroat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765029)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:02 PM
Author: Federal Indian Lodge New Version

Why can't you just cut your caseload to whatever you find manageable?

How did you get the clients and how much do you bill them at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765038)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:03 PM
Author: Territorial trailer park

lol need to make 200k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765041)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: slate associate

I'm not sure how anyone with a family lives on less, to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765047)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:04 PM
Author: fishy heady milk

what figure wouldn't make you lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765049)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:10 PM
Author: Territorial trailer park

not sure, but lol at being a middle aged person transferring zero skills or experience into a 200k+ job that is not SALES

think like the boss. "Hey let me give you 250,000 guaranteed a year, out of our profits, to do....." WHAT? How are you going to earn him $350k+ that year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765097)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:16 PM
Author: slate associate

I'm not opposed to sales at all.

How hard is it to break into a decent PETERMAN APPROVED sales job, though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765143)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:57 AM
Author: Fighting senate

what clique are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767551)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: slate associate

Scumbag TBH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45773259)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: Khaki Boiling Water

I'm basically in the same boat. My plan is either to make enough money to someday stop working, or collect on that disability or death insurance policy. I don't see how there's any other options here.

It's not all that depressing, my firm is doing well, realistically I can keep this up for about another 15 or so years that should probably do it. It is an awful grind though and I wish I didn't have to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765063)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: slate associate

Yup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765105)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:45 PM
Author: motley harsh windowlicker abode

my phone rings 15 to 25 times a day with the self-inflicted problems and drama of absolute proles (even rich ones). Even if its lucrative I do not think I can keep this up for 15-20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765313)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:05 PM
Author: Territorial trailer park

feel like i wrote your post.

it bewilders me that, somehow, I ended up with the job of being the go-to guy for retard proles in absolute hair-on-fire crises.

Thats the entirety of my job. Shit exploding in your life and youre manic about it? Call Im Done Here!

How on earth did this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765412)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:03 PM
Author: Khaki Boiling Water

I don't know how I got stuck with this, all I know is that the only way out is to be successful and win your way out. CSLG does the same thing we do and you don't hear him complaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765613)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:47 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich

That's because he has a team of paralegals that handle every aspect of the case beyond intake (more specifically: signing the client) & some negotiations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767538)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:05 PM
Author: slate associate

You are both describing my life, too.

Over the holidays I had a difficult former client (small business) get a demand letter for some stupid shit they did and they just told the plaintiff's attorney to "send it to quotemo, he's my attorney" even though I'm not and have no interest in taking this case. Of course the plaintiff's attorney started hounding me while I wasted time reminding the client that I'm not their attorney for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765620)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:49 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich

Literally just had this happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767540)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:45 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767536)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:18 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich

Mine rings at least twice that. There are times I have to literally turn it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767514)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:34 AM
Author: mahogany trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45768045)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: Glittery turquoise national

https://recruiting.myapps.paychex.com/appone/MainInfoReq.asp?R_ID=5177241&

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766741)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: Onyx tanning salon

You have to wonder who would want to pay a burned out former lawyer $200k to not practice law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765077)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:11 PM
Author: slate associate

$200k is not that much any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765102)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:23 PM
Author: Onyx tanning salon

It's like 250% of the median HHI. That's a ton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765201)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:23 AM
Author: claret gaped travel guidebook clown

You can easily get 200k total comp in tech doing some jdpreferred bs or becoming a project manager. It's all bad tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767405)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: Swollen coffee pot

age / nw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765109)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:12 PM
Author: thriller alcoholic box office corn cake

window

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765113)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:36 AM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45768055)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:50 PM
Author: Copper Razzle Theater Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45771898)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:31 PM
Author: Scarlet Site Degenerate

I thought becoming a solo was the best decision pumos had ever made, like a manna from heaven?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765245)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:33 PM
Author: slate associate

It is 868450485 compared to practicing law in a firm or in-house. I just want to do something else with my life now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765252)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:34 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage

Work the front desk at a hotel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765254)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: slate associate

My kid likes to watch the animated Curious George TV show and it really makes me want to be a doorman at a luxury building, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765260)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:35 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage

Are these jerbs available to burnt-out biglawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765262)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: Territorial trailer park

JD opens a lot of doors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765268)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:37 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765272)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:38 PM
Author: slate associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765273)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: bateful whorehouse community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765310)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: disgusting ladyboy boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765315)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:04 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765403)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:20 PM
Author: Violent Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765479)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:51 PM
Author: Costumed vigorous french chef water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766309)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:37 AM
Author: mahogany trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45768058)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: bateful whorehouse community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#49228215)



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Date: June 26th, 2026 1:08 AM
Author: cannon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#49963570)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:36 PM
Author: Scarlet Site Degenerate

I think you have a good thing going and should probably appreciate it. Why not work a little less and be social outside of work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765263)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:39 PM
Author: slate associate

You're probably right. It's just depressing to think I've wasted years and years of my life doing a job that has been so unsatisfying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765278)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:40 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765285)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:42 PM
Author: Scarlet Site Degenerate

All jobs suck. Very few exceptions. I think it's better to live our UMC life with a shit job than to be poor.

What you really ought to do instead of scrambling for some entry level sales job is to invest in a business and find people to run it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765297)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:41 PM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman

weird, in biglaw right now and have the itch to go solo, but I guess the grass is not really greener

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765287)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:43 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage

It's all $hit :)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765303)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:44 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

It's a lot greener compared to biglaw, but it's still law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765311)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:53 PM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman

yeah I think the same thing will happen to me even if I become a successful solo, ill just get bored of lawshit anyways

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765341)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:12 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm

I don't see how solo or small firm life is better unless you are a CSLG type who is literally making millions.

With or without a boss you have the stress of litigation and demands of servicing clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765442)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 8:57 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

-No boss

-No fake emergencies created by your own team

-Ability to decline cases you know will be more stress than they're worth

-You don't have to litigate. I was a litmo and got out of it. Last year I billed ~1000 hours drafting contracts and reviewing the kind of stuff I've reviewed hundreds of times before and took home $350k after expenses. Beats the shit out of being at a firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766338)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:06 PM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman

So you switched to tranny stuff? How’d you learn the area after doing lit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766364)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:20 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

Yeah. Westlaw's Practical Law and Lexis Practical Guidance or whatever it's called are very helpful. For stuff I didn't think I could competently figure out at first, I hired contract attorneys and eventually learned how to do what they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766453)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:21 PM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman

How’d you get clients? How much do u pay for practical law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766464)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:59 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

I got pretty good at developing a social media presence and getting speaking engagements. All my clients come through that.

I think Practical law is like $350/mo for solos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766700)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:07 PM
Author: Alcoholic station

can you explain more. that seems nuts that you went from litigation to a contracts drafting expert as a solo with 'social media presence.' like explain more details of how this works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766740)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:10 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

Left biglaw with ultimate goal of getting out of lit eventually.

Year 1: Still doing lit - a few very small referrals from a friend to get me started, grinding out a year of litigating at ~$250/hr rate. Start writing articles about the area of compliance/consulting/tranny stuff I want to focus on. Get invited to speak at a conference related to that area. Start social media pages. Don't make much money.

Year 2: Still about 80% lit, one solid referral from old firm kept me afloat, but they were psychotic to work for. Rate up to $300. Have a few transactional clients that I use a contract attorney to do all the heavy lifting for. Learning the ropes so to speak. Focus on posting daily social media content related to that practice area. Get lucky that stuff gets reshared by a few big accounts. Net $320k.

Year 3: Maybe about 50% lit now. I understand how to do the "greatest hits" contracts in my practice area that I see over and over again. Use contract attorneys for stuff I don't feel like I can competently figure out. Get better at figuring out what social content gets more reach and engagement. Net $415k thanks to a few lit cases going the right way.

Year 4: Wrap up final lit case. Social/online presence continues to grow and keeps the pipeline full. Rate at $500. Landed some big clients that keep me busy every month. Refer everything lit-related out. Net $350k.

This year: Off to a good start, made $15k so far since Jan 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767375)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 3:38 PM
Author: Alcoholic station

Thats 180 and inspiring , thanks for the response. I am doing something very similar as I just left biglaw as a litigator too and getting into an area now as a solo that i previously had little interaction with

would love to know for the social media stuff if you have any resources that you found really great in helping you out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45770218)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: Cerebral business firm

Can I take you out to lunch sometime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766712)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Idiot Hospital

Sure if you're in LA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767384)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:46 PM
Author: Curious parlour ratface

What floor is your office on?

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Date: January 9th, 2023 4:47 PM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:03 PM
Author: hairraiser brass doctorate striped hyena

cr.

pull a Garry Hoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765399)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:48 AM
Author: impressive sanctuary old irish cottage



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Date: January 9th, 2023 5:09 PM
Author: disgusting ladyboy boltzmann



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Date: January 10th, 2023 1:53 AM
Author: Histrionic set sandwich



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Date: January 9th, 2023 6:08 PM
Author: Lascivious turdskin place of business

become a Director at F100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45765635)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:14 PM
Author: Bistre sinister field kitty

Solo transactional work instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766415)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: Contagious dull candlestick maker background story

Mega Million$ drawing tomorrow for over a Billion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766443)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Curious parlour ratface



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:23 PM
Author: Charismatic haunting hell roast beef

I make $75k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766471)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 12:12 AM
Author: Sexy menage



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:38 AM
Author: mahogany trust fund

this is a big improvement brother

ur doing great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45768061)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:44 PM
Author: Charismatic haunting hell roast beef

it's a big improvement over delivering cookies, but at this rate I"ll be making 125k when I retire (65k in 2022 dollars)

If it weren't for ethereum I'd be living in a studio apartment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45771881)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 2:59 PM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman



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Date: January 9th, 2023 9:27 PM
Author: Laughsome love of her life

Get into construction. You could make manager in 2 years easy, and if you work your ass off, you could make low 100s until then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766483)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:01 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Laser Beams

Poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766717)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:04 PM
Author: bonkers gold liquid oxygen yarmulke

Move to a farm and raise ducks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766730)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 10:10 PM
Author: seedy tantric lodge party of the first part

Try to slowly transition to tranny work over the course of 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45766750)



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Date: January 9th, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: Light property digit ratio

Sex with men for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45767195)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:52 PM
Author: Mewling shrine blood rage

antidepressants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45771907)



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Date: January 10th, 2023 9:57 PM
Author: provocative internet-worthy immigrant ceo

Why the fuck don't solos hire people and implement systems so they can be the business owner and have other grunts deal with the hair-on-fire clients?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45771924)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 10:21 AM
Author: slate associate

I tried this and get emails from my clients like "I appreciate that you hired an associate but the work product isn't at the same level and we need you to be the one who works with us."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45773258)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 11:08 AM
Author: Chest-beating Self-centered Ticket Booth Patrolman

u need to get into an area with less demadning/ more prole clients

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5267792&forum_id=2...#45773519)



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Date: January 11th, 2023 12:41 PM
Author: slate associate



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