Interesting timing: Zelensky announces “preparing plan to end the war”
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Date: June 28th, 2024 9:46 AM Author: cannon
https://www.barrons.com/news/zelensky-says-preparing-plan-to-end-war-with-russia-f3a8bab3
Zelensky Says Preparing 'Plan' To End War With Russia
By AFP - Agence France Presse
June 28, 2024
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky on Friday said he was drawing up a "comprehensive plan" for how Kyiv believes the war with Russia should end.
There are no public talks ongoing between Ukraine and Russia and based on public statements by Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the two sides appear as far apart as ever when it comes to the terms of a potential peace settlement.
Zelensky hosted a major international summit in Switzerland earlier this month -- to which Russia was not invited -- to rally support for Ukraine's position.
"It is very important for us to show a plan to end the war that will be supported by the majority of the world," Zelensky said on Friday.
"This is the diplomatic route we are working on," he said at a press conference in Kyiv alongside Slovenian President Natasa Pirc Musar.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47787973) |
Date: June 28th, 2024 9:51 AM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt)
"Ukraine has repeatedly said Russia must pull its troops out of its internationally recognised territory, including the peninsula of Crimea that Moscow annexed in 2014, before peace talks can start."
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""We don't have too much time," he said, pointing to the high casualty rate amongst soldiers and civilians.
Russia's troops are slowly advancing on the battlefield, claiming to have seized another small frontline village on Friday.
They currently occupy around a fifth of Ukraine and in 2022 claimed to have annexed four more regions, none of which they fully controlled.
Ukraine relies on Western financial and military aid to push back the invading Russian forces, but its troops are outgunned, outmanned and exhausted after more than two years of fighting."
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lmao
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47787999) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,...,..,:,..,..
"internationally recognised". USA should cut off all funding until these faggots finally start using the letter z where it's supposed to be used
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47788532) |
Date: June 28th, 2024 10:01 AM Author: Live Free or Die.
For the sharp critics and sages of XO you people really only get news from the MSM that you seem to detest so much.
Do you know how often Zelenskii has said something like this before?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47788037)
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:26 AM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt)
c'mon man the MSM is firmly on the ukraine side of things.
zelenskyy has said this before to get more money and weapons. and he's always got what he wanted, yet russia is still pressing. there's really only two outcomes at this point:
1) ukraine makes peace or capitulates
2) the west takes a more active role
considering how unlikely 2 is since we would have stepped in way before now, and trump being ascendant makes it even less likely to happen going forward, idk how you can avoid that 1 is the most likely outcome.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47788189) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: Live Free or Die.
The statement referenced in OP is not a unique statement. I don't believe you or MASE follow E. Europe news, thus my assertion. I don't care who the MSM is in the bag for (hint, its no one but their own wallet).
"there's really only two outcomes at this point:"
Just stop for a second. Do you think you understand the license plate issues in Kosovo? Do you understand the new language requirements in the Baltics?
No. You don't.
So why do you pretend to have some deep understanding of Ukraine/rus?
I don't even do that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47788221)
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:07 PM Author: Live Free or Die.
of course, have an opinion. its the certainty with which you make pronouncements that i take issue with.
"there's really only two outcomes at this point"
that's a very bold, powerful statement. i don't believe it to be true in the slightest.
"idk how you can avoid that 1 is the most likely outcome"
Maybe if the rus were able to move further than 5km from their border after sending 25k in last month I would buy that line. Maybe if they were not presently getting their toe-hold in Kharkiv oblast obliterated I would buy it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789390)
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:18 PM Author: Live Free or Die.
alright, the killing will continue. and it will continue even after that. more must die. perhaps thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands.
if Ukraine capitulates this will happen in 10 years again, and they know it.
Ukraine must join EU and NATO to survive, its more important that Donetsk or Luhansk. There's my two cents and not one accounted for in your plan.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789427) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:24 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe
the discussions on security assurances are not as narrow as you make them out to be. Something like security assurances from eastern euro powers (baltics, finland, poland) have been batted around. Given Russia's performance in this war, they wouldn't be able to afford another front, even from just eastern euro powers. Kallas' ascension to EU President pissed off Russia precisely because real security assurances (including some form of NATO and EU admission) are a distinct possibility.
Russia also has a lot of pressure points. Their little gains in the Donbass come at the price of a shitload of equipment, manpower, Crimea as a naval and air base, and the black sea fleet. The latter two are in my view worth a lot more than some bombed out territory. Then there's the sanctions and the money in western banks.
There's a whole ton of elements here that can be negotiated in some deal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789802) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)
To be fair,
CR, just like literally everything else that ever happens (trust me I know these things and I'm not delusional), this is ackkkkshually great news... FOR UKRAINE!!!
lmao
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789372) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:14 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)
To be fair,
I think that bottom line is that Ukraine is winning this war, and is preparing to sue for peace now out of a position of absolute strength.
Trust me, I know these things. ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789416) |
Date: June 28th, 2024 2:10 PM Author: AZNgirl confused whether she can date Vivek Vance
some some shit on twtr claiming a russian minister was permitted into the US? but who?
maybe they are having underground talks but ljl these hohol trash shld just surrender, its so retarded
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5546989&forum_id=2...id#47789398) |
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